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Do I end my 11 year relationship (we’re 29)with two kids (11&9). I really need advice

31 replies

Rosepoets · 03/01/2026 22:16

I honestly don’t even know where to start with this. I’ve known my partner since we were teenagers around 13 and we were really good friends but somehow stopped talking. I ended up in a relationship when I was 17 and got pregnant, I ended it with that person because he wasn’t willing to step up. When I was around 5 months pregnant I started talking to my current partner again and realised I had feelings for him, once my daughter was around a month old I met up with him and that moment we were inseparable.
The relationship started off amazing, he was so thoughtful, so kind, always treated my daughter like his own but I started to notice he would lie a lot. one time I booked a holiday for us and only the night before we were about to leave he told me he didn’t have a passport. I would constantly find porn on his phone and I mean loads, I told him I personally didn’t like it so he told me he would stop but he got caught out again and again. Our relationship spiralled from there, there were so many good moments but then the bad moments were really bad, after 2 and a half years together I found out I was pregnant and what I thought would be such an amazing experience was hell, it was all on me, he would just play on his console, one time I had really bad sickness and I was hoovering around him whilst running to the toilet every now and again to be sick. when I was 6 months pregnant me, him, my daughter and my brother all went on a family holiday, whilst we were abroad we were talking about whether or not we should be together, things got heated and he left the hotel. He was gone for hours and I had a gut feeling to look over the balcony of our room, when I did I saw him coming back into the hotel side by side with another girl, I was distraught, I ran downstairs crying my eyes out and when I stood in front of him he walked the other way with her, I felt like my heart had been ripped out. He eventually came back to the room and got straight into the shower, I questioned him straight away and he said he thought we were over and he went to the beach with her and sat and spoke, I questioned her the next day and she said the same thing but said he told her that we hadn’t been together for ages. another lie. even now I don’t know if anything happened between them. We had 4 days left of that holiday and I’ll always remember how i felt, I swore that when we got home that I’d end it, when we did get back home he said all the right things, apologised again and again and stupidly I stayed.
He was amazing for a short while but then he went back to his old ways. I was around 8 months pregnant and we had an argument so he decided to go to his mums, I went to meet him and asked to see his phone I went through everything and I had found him taking videos of himself but not the type of videos you’d send to a girl, he was taking videos to send to men. I then came across multiple accounts across different social media platforms that he was using to message men. I questioned him about it and said he was confused but he doesn’t feel like that. I decided to end it. I gave birth to my daughter and when she was two weeks old we got back together. it was great but then it got even worse, we started arguing loads which eventually would lead to physical fights, my daughter was 3/4 at the time and I will always regret the things she saw. my mental health was so bad, I tried to od loads of times, ended up in hospital and I almost got put into a mental health hospital. One morning he told me to lay in bed and he’d look after the kids and when I got up I found him watching porn. One day I took our eldest daughter to a birthday party and when I got back I found that he’d been video calling random people on Skype. He would tell me he’s going shop and I wouldn’t see him for days. I would call him hundreds of times and hed ignore me. He saw me go to take a bunch of tablets once because I couldn’t take it anymore so to get them out of my hands he bent my fingers back and bit me. I had a really bad mental health breakdown and I couldn’t sleep for a week, he called me By accident and I heard he was out with girls in the background. I also suffer from endometriosis and he helps me alot now but he never used to. There was also times I wasn’t very nice to him but it always started from him just tormenting me. Now I know I’m writing about all the bad but it was a cycle or him being amazing to him being honestly evil. I could write for days about the things he done, the lies, the nastiness but this would never end. Eventually I said enough was enough and ended it, I got back in touch with a boy I used to be really close with and the more time we spent with each other we developed really strong feelings, he made me feel safe, seen, heard, special, I can’t explain how i Felt but it was like I had met my soul mate, about 6 months went by and guess who popped back up on the scene? I don’t know why I done it by I convinced myself that I was letting my kids down my not trying so i called It quits with the guy I was seeing and tried again. MY BIGGEST REGRET. for years and years we were on and off, when I Would cry he’d just look at me, he made no effort with me, I would plan everything, he was a really hard worker and always provided financially and would do random nice things like make me dinner or run Me a bath but nothing ever crazy. One time he booked for us to go away for my birthday and ended up bringing his console and playing on it.
NOW, 11 years later and he is AMAZING. He’s been really focused on improving all aspects of himself, he’s read so many books, he sold his console, treats me like a queen, he would do anything for me, he’s honestly one of the nicest people you’d ever meet And I do love him but i feel empty at the same time also and to make matters worse the person who i fell in love with years ago decided to pop back up on the scene and tell me how much he still loves me. I’m honestly so confused. My nan also has dementia and he helps me so much with he. he’s a completely different person. Also my partner had a really bad childhood, his family are not nice people at all and he cut contact with them ages ago, he also used to be involved with really bad people and had horrible friends, not to use it as an excuse but just a bit of back story. he takes full accountability for everything he’s done, he’s changed so much, he loves me and the kids but I’m just so lost with how I feel.
My 11 year old daughter is now in therapy due to anxiety which I know I’ve created which eats me alive, both of my kids love him SO much. I also I have no family, well I actually have a really huge family but they’re really not nice people and none of my friends have kids so no one understands. I have read so many posts, books, I can’t sleep properly, I’m so stressed, he’s everything I’ve ever wanted him to be plus more but this feeling just Won’t go but I don’t want to end it and then regret it. I also think financially it would be really hard, he provides everything as I cant work due to health issues and i homeschool my kids.
theres so many more things I could add to the abuse he put me through but it triggers me so much that I dont Like to remind myself because it was the darkest time of my life and if I didn’t have kids to live for I wouldn’t be here right now.
i guess the way I feel is how can I not leave when he was terrible but now want to leave when he’s at his best.
any advice or even just someone to talk to I’d really appreciate

OP posts:
RogueFemale · 03/01/2026 22:41

TLDR version. Just counting up all the ‘amazing’ things about this prize shit. He’s a liar, a porn addict, plays video games when you’re sick, cheats on you, possibly into gay sex. There are ‘physical fights’. You’ve tried to overdose. He’s physically assaulted you.

Your 11 yo daughter is in therapy due to anxiety (are you confident he hasn't been sexually abusing your daughters?)

Then he apologises and you forgive him, and think he's amazing again.

This person is not amazing, he's a toxic, abusive cunt and you need to run away from him, NOW.

TeddyBeans · 03/01/2026 22:45

First reply nails it

Dolamroth · 03/01/2026 22:46

There's literally nothing about him that is good.

End the relationship.

NormasArse · 03/01/2026 22:46

Wtf did I just read?

PInkyStarfish · 03/01/2026 22:51

You’re suffering, your children are suffering, he brings nothing but distress to your lives.

You can use the word amazing all you like but I’ve never read any account about a person that is so far the opposite of amazing, he’s a complete and utter piece of crap.

HenryRain · 03/01/2026 22:52

I really feel bad for the children caught in this toxic relationship.

You need to be on your own with NO men. Be single. Work on yourself. Could you do that for a couple of years? If not, ask yourself why.

Can you be sure he has never behaved inappropriately towards your daughter?

Definitely leave this relationship.

And please don't have any more children.

ItsDarkNow · 03/01/2026 22:54

I’d say there is a very good chance that he has abused your 11 year old daughter.

ohimightaswell · 03/01/2026 23:06

You are 29 with two beautiful children, many years ahead of you to change this and live a fulfilling life. Get out while you can. You don’t want to be 39 thinking about this all over again.

I think you should slowly plan to leave, try and get job, why are your children not in school? Is home a good stable environment for them to be educated in? See how your partner is while you make these changes, I’m sure his true colours will show…

Good luck

HowIong · 03/01/2026 23:13

So basically you’ll do anything to have a man (any man!) in your life, regardless of the impact it has on your children?

Split.
Germy therapy.
help your poor children.
Stay single.

slx · 03/01/2026 23:22

ChatGPT to the rescue

1. What you experienced
was abuse

Not “relationship problems,” not “mutual toxicity,” not “bad phases” — abuse.

  • Repeated lying, sexual secrecy, disappearing for days
  • Emotional cruelty, abandonment, gaslighting
  • Physical violence (bending your fingers, biting you)
  • Sexual betrayal and boundary violations
  • Psychological torment during pregnancy and postpartum
  • Witnessing your mental health collapse and still continuing the behaviour

Even if he has changed now, the damage from those years doesn’t disappear just because the behaviour stopped. Trauma lives in the body and nervous system, not just in memory.

So if part of you feels empty, distant, numb, or “off” now that he’s good — that is not you being ungrateful or cruel. That is your nervous system finally feeling safe enough to surface what it never had space to feel before.

2. The question you’re asking isn’t the real one

You’re asking:

“How can I want to leave when he was terrible, but struggle now that he’s at his best?”

The deeper question is:

“Am I allowed to choose myself after surviving?”

For years, you were in survival mode:

  • Keeping the peace
  • Protecting your children
  • Managing finances
  • Managing illness
  • Managing his moods, lies, disappearances

Now that the chaos has stopped, you’re no longer surviving — you’re finally able to feel. And sometimes what comes up is grief, anger, emptiness, and clarity rather than relief.

That doesn’t mean you don’t love him.
It means your body remembers what your mind tried to endure.

3. Change doesn’t automatically create safety

Yes — people can change. And it sounds like he genuinely has done a lot of work.

But here’s the hard truth that no one says out loud:

Someone can become a good partner too late for the relationship they damaged.

Love is not just about who someone is now — it’s also about:

  • Whether trust can truly regrow
  • Whether attraction can return without fear
  • Whether your body relaxes or stays guarded
  • Whether resentment has somewhere to go

You didn’t get to be angry safely back then.
You didn’t get to leave when your instincts screamed at you.
You didn’t get to grieve.

Those feelings don’t vanish just because the present looks better.

4. Your children loving him doesn’t mean you must stay

This is such a heavy burden you’re carrying.

Your children loving him does not mean:

  • You owe him your life
  • You must sacrifice your emotional truth
  • You must model endurance over self-respect

What harms children most isn’t separation — it’s:

  • Living with a parent who feels empty, trapped, or emotionally shut down
  • Absorbing unspoken tension
  • Learning that love means self-abandonment

Your daughter’s anxiety is not because you’re a bad mother.
It’s because she grew up in instability that you were also trapped inside.

Blame belongs where harm occurred — not on the person who was surviving it.

5. The other man represents something symbolic

This is important: this isn’t necessarily about him.

He represents:

  • Safety without history
  • Being chosen without begging
  • Love without trauma
  • A version of you that wasn’t breaking herself to be loved

When someone like that reappears, it doesn’t mean “leave immediately.”
It means your heart is showing you what it never healed from.

6. You do NOT need to decide right now

Please hear this:
You are allowed to pause.

You are allowed to:

  • Not leave
  • Not commit harder
  • Not make a dramatic decision

Right now, the goal isn’t choosing him vs someone else.
The goal is choosing clarity over fear.

7. What would actually help (practically)

If you can, these are the safest next steps — not ultimatums or explosions:

  • Trauma-informed therapy just for you (not couples yet). Someone who understands abuse cycles and trauma bonding.
  • Stop framing the decision as permanent. Think in seasons, not forever.
  • Ask yourself body-based questions, not logical ones:
  • Do I feel calm or tense around him?
  • Do I feel free to say “no”?
  • Do I feel desire, or obligation?
  • Financial advice (quietly). Knowing your options reduces fear-driven decisions.
  • Boundaries with the other man while you’re vulnerable — not because he’s bad, but because clarity needs space.

8. One last thing — and this matters deeply

You survived something that nearly killed you.
You stayed alive for your children when everything in you was breaking.

That makes you strong — but strength doesn’t mean you must keep enduring.

Whatever you choose:

  • Staying doesn’t make you weak
  • Leaving doesn’t make you cruel
  • Taking time doesn’t make you selfish

You are not broken.
You are traumatised — and trauma deserves patience, not pressure.

If you want, I can:

  • Help you untangle love vs trauma bond
  • Help you think through staying without disappearing
  • Help you plan what leaving would actually look like
  • Or just sit with you and let you talk — no fixing, no judging
DurinsBane · 03/01/2026 23:23

ItsDarkNow · 03/01/2026 22:54

I’d say there is a very good chance that he has abused your 11 year old daughter.

Where did you get that from?

Rosepoets · 03/01/2026 23:30

I really appreciate everyone’s responses and I do mean everyone’s. I knew the response I would receive because I probably would respond the same.
Just to clarify he absolutely would NEVER abuse my daughter, that is not him AT ALL and I’m 10000% sure of that. Everything that I’m saying he done he done years ago, yes bad things have happened more recent but none of the extreme things like I mentioned. My children are no longer in that environment at all because nothing is actually happening it’s just the fact that I can’t get over what has happened. Believe me I know staying was stupid and there’s so much more to it so I understand a lot of these responses.

OP posts:
Rosepoets · 03/01/2026 23:31

I really needed to read this. Thank you so much

OP posts:
RogueFemale · 03/01/2026 23:34

@Rosepoets "Just to clarify he absolutely would NEVER abuse my daughter, that is not him AT ALL and I’m 10000% sure of that."

Every mother of a girl abused by their father or step-father would claim the same as you. I was abused by my father, my mother had no idea at all. You really don't know.

RogueFemale · 03/01/2026 23:37

@Rosepoets And everything else you say about this truly amazing cunt tells me he is perfectly capable of abusing your daughters.

RogueFemale · 03/01/2026 23:45

I get why you think this cunt has changed. But he's still the same cunt who abused you repeatedly before. Remember the abuse. Nothing has changed, men like this don't change. Same cunt. It's a pretence to keep you under control. Please please see this and get out.

LovesLabradors · 04/01/2026 00:12

What would it be like to live your life just for yourself and your DC for a while? No men - not running from one man to another and then back again - but just for you? You have had years of chaos and abuse. Find yourself, think about only yourself.
You don't have to leave him right away - just start to make plans. Start thinking about yourself - rather than which (horrible, abusive) man to pick.

Holdonforsummer · 04/01/2026 01:30

there is no way I could forgive when half of what he has done. Please re-read your own post, he is vile and quite possibly mentally unwell
(sounds bipolar or has a personality disorder or at the very least, several addictions). Have you heard of love-bombing? It is only a matter of time before this turns horrific again. I’d leave.

Clutterbug2026 · 04/01/2026 01:35

DurinsBane · 03/01/2026 23:23

Where did you get that from?

But the dayghter is being emotional abused because she is living in a household which is abusive.

Bigwelshlamb · 04/01/2026 01:43

RogueFemale · 03/01/2026 22:41

TLDR version. Just counting up all the ‘amazing’ things about this prize shit. He’s a liar, a porn addict, plays video games when you’re sick, cheats on you, possibly into gay sex. There are ‘physical fights’. You’ve tried to overdose. He’s physically assaulted you.

Your 11 yo daughter is in therapy due to anxiety (are you confident he hasn't been sexually abusing your daughters?)

Then he apologises and you forgive him, and think he's amazing again.

This person is not amazing, he's a toxic, abusive cunt and you need to run away from him, NOW.

What she said ..

Dweetfidilove · 04/01/2026 02:19

OP, why do you think your children deserve this life?

Rosepoets · 04/01/2026 03:59

Dweetfidilove · 04/01/2026 02:19

OP, why do you think your children deserve this life?

This isn’t their life at all anymore, they’re really happy now which is why I feel bad that if I end it I’ll ruin their happiness again? I ruined it before by staying and now I’ll ruin it by leaving

OP posts:
Delphiniumandlupins · 04/01/2026 04:39

It sounds as if you have hardly been single since you were 13? And you got together with this man when you were both teenagers. You need therapy to work out why you have accepted such a toxic relationship. You need to be alone with your DC, for years not months. When you are healthy then you can reassess how you want to live.

ShawnaMacallister · 04/01/2026 05:53

Rosepoets · 03/01/2026 23:30

I really appreciate everyone’s responses and I do mean everyone’s. I knew the response I would receive because I probably would respond the same.
Just to clarify he absolutely would NEVER abuse my daughter, that is not him AT ALL and I’m 10000% sure of that. Everything that I’m saying he done he done years ago, yes bad things have happened more recent but none of the extreme things like I mentioned. My children are no longer in that environment at all because nothing is actually happening it’s just the fact that I can’t get over what has happened. Believe me I know staying was stupid and there’s so much more to it so I understand a lot of these responses.

If you can't move on from the trauma he caused in the past how do you expect your kids to be able to? You say they love him and he's amazing now but your oldest has anxiety and they are both home schooled (is that mental health related?) and they are also still living in the same family unit.
Leave this new/old man out of it, your kids don't need another step father if you do leave him, but you should reflect on how they must feel living in this environment.

Tinkerbellthefairy · 04/01/2026 05:59

He Needs to leave and you need to be on your own. You and your kids need intensive therapy and you need to heal before you even consider another relationship.

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