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BF Xmas Effort Moan

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pateisacompletemeal · 29/12/2025 14:31

I just want to have a little moan/vent. It’s not a LTB case, as my boyfriend is actually not a bastard at all - which is probably why I’m so bewildered at the total lack of effort he made for Christmas. Context - been together 3 years, don’t live together, I have young dc, he has none, he travels a lot for work, we see each other on average once a week, sometimes more often, sometimes less.

For our previous Xmases together we agreed not to spend loads and instead just go for a night out or a nice meal. This year we didn’t decide anything, I had asked and he’d said about having his eye on something for me but it was expensive so he’d not yet committed. I had a feeling it was a cookery class he knew I’d been wanting to do. In the past he’s bought me lessons and experiences like that, and printed off the voucher or details so I can choose my own dates, and I know they can be dear. So thought I’d better get him something a bit more decent. I’d already bought him some nice personalised bits for his home and little tokens, chocs etc, but after he said that I got him a more expensive gadget I knew he’d wanted. All good.

He was round at mine about a week before Xmas and saw his gift bag ready on the side and said ‘oh that looks full, I better up my gift game if you’ve gone to all that effort for me!’ And I agreed and said yes he should. Very light, not a big deal, both laughing about it. The next day we were out at an artisan type shop and I bought myself something, and was joking with the cashier about feeling guilty spending money on myself at Xmas. I said ‘well it can be my present to myself, I won’t have much to open’. BF acted all offended, as if of course he’d got me piles of things to open.

Come Xmas day he opened his gifts, was really happy with everything, then passed me 2 small gifts. 1 was a random deli item (think piece of cheese, not rare/expensive, my username is related - pate would have been better!) and the other was a cheap pair of socks. The deli item was weird, we’d agreed to each contribute some nice deli bits for a buffet meal on Boxing Day, so clearly he’d just wrapped up one of the random food things to pass that off as a gift. I was confused and he was all ‘oh you love this, you always say this is the best’ and I was like ‘nope never mentioned this in my life.’

He then said my main gift was going to be a night away to a place we’ve discussed going previously. I said that was very generous of him, asked when had he booked for etc. No actual booking, plan or dates in mind as it turned out. ‘When it’s warmer’ is all I got. I acted as graciously as possible and I appreciate it is a nice thought, but that’s all it is - an idea. And I know ‘it’s the thought that counts’ but in this case, it doesn’t feel like it. It feels like no effort, or at least very low effort.

For me it’s not about the cost, it’s the nothingness of it all. Why act like he’s going ‘up his gift game’ and all that if he knew he had got me barely anything? He could have at least shown me a possible hotel or whatever, or at least suggested a potential weekend - just anything to show he’d put some thought into it. I didn’t say anything about it other than to point out the deli item is not something I had any interest in and I don’t want him thinking I do and he constantly buys it. He did look a bit shamefaced about that.

I tried not to read too much into it all. But we spent a few days together and he didn’t say anything further about the potential trip. We were watching travel shows a lot and talking about city breaks we’d like to do and even then still nothing.

I don’t really want to raise this with him, even though I am definitely a planner! I don’t want to ask anything about the trip, as I don’t want him to be ‘nagged’ or reminded into booking something. I want him to show some initiative and make it happen, or at least come to me to ask when I’m free to go. I know he’s not a mind reader but if it’s a gift for me, I refuse to question it, chase it or plan it. One of the reasons I’m divorced is because my ex left it up to me to plan literally everything and I got fed up of dragging him along with my life. I thought my BF was much more proactive, and he often can be, so hoping this is a blip and trying not to worry too much about what it means, which I am prone to do.

Thanks if you got this far and have any words of wisdom!

OP posts:
rubyslippers · 29/12/2025 14:33

Raise it with him
have a grown up conversation
he’s gifts sound really thoughtless - is he checking out of the relationship? Because this would give me pause …

StopBothering · 29/12/2025 14:53

In my experience, and from what I can gather from other women who post similar on here OP, once complacency sets in they do not improve.

He's got very comfy by the sounds of it.

He then said my main gift was going to be a night away to a place we’ve discussed going previously. I said that was very generous of him, asked when had he booked for etc. No actual booking, plan or dates in mind as it turned out. ‘When it’s warmer’ is all I got

That's an absolute cop out!^ He was caught on the hop and thinks he's managed to worm his way out. He's probably hoping you'll forget all about it, or when the time comes he will expect you to pay half (pay for your own gift!).

I think if you stay in this relationship then you really need to see consistent effort and he needs to follow through, unprompted, re this alleged gift of a night away. I definitely wouldn't advise staying beyond "when it's warmer" if it hasn't materialised, because then you know for sure he's a low-effort liar.

Pineapplewaves · 29/12/2025 15:01

You have been together three years and only see each other once a week (I’m guessing on a night when you don’t have DC so he doesn’t have anything to do with them?). Are you happy that this isn’t a proper relationship? Are you happy where it is going? Do you see a future in it? Might be better to move on and find someone who wants to spend more time with you and who is interested in meeting your kids one day?

StopBothering · 29/12/2025 15:03

Also:

clearly he’d just wrapped up one of the random food things to pass that off as a gift. I was confused and he was all ‘oh you love this, you always say this is the best’ and I was like ‘nope never mentioned this in my life.’

Sorry to ask, but is it possible he's getting you confused with someone else? Is there a possibility that his focus is on another woman, hence why he's really dropped the ball this time around? To be candid, some of them are really crap at remembering which woman has said what.

If not, then you're looking at cheap and lazy.

Vroomfondleswaistcoat · 29/12/2025 15:08

I'd keep quiet about the 'night away' thing - yes, it's a bit low effort but at least he took note of somewhere you wanted to go. But the deli item is just bizarre and I'd certainly sit him down and ask him what the hell that was about. It's the sort of thing you'd just hand over on arrival, not something you'd wrap as a gift, and I'd be having words about that.

Heresto26 · 29/12/2025 15:15

I'd be a bit off and distant with him, maybe ask if he's used the gadget you got him the next time you see him in conversation. Someone told me once to 'be how you feel' ..I realized I spent a lot of time covering up my feelings, acting like I wasn't bothered or sad about things when I was etc. You don't need to pretend it's all ok because it isn't how you're feeling. If he doesn't mentioned it again when you see him id be rethinking the whole thing tbh. A kick in the teeth you didn't deserve ❤️

LaurieFairyCake · 29/12/2025 15:15

I would be very practical and email through a list of dates you’re free in next 2 months - Valentines! And if he doesn’t confirm a date quickly I think you have your answer. I think he’s over the relationship FlowersGinFlowers

pateisacompletemeal · 29/12/2025 15:58

Thanks everyone! Lots of thoughts here.

@rubyslippers it did instantly seem like he’s checked out or it was all a cop out, but I do overthink so am taking some time to sit with it and getting it out here helps me take stock. I am not having a conversation about it. He doesn’t need me to tell him. He must know exactly why he’s done what he’s done. I’m watching and waiting basically, and just letting off steam here.

I agree @StopBothering (I’ll take your username on board when it comes to his gifts!) he’s definitely got comfy the longer we’ve been together but not in this very lazy way before, so this Xmas thing is unusual. He’s put lots of effort in previously so I’m wondering if this is the start of complacency or a bad blip. I’ll wait and see what happens but him just saying nothing til it’s ‘warmer’ doesn’t cut it. I’ll maybe give him a week or so. He needs to come up with a plan well in advance of ‘warmer’ - considering it’s in the UK it could be months til it happens! I did ask a bit about the deli thing, and he went from ‘I thought you loved this’ to ‘well you love nibbly bits and you liked a similar thing from X place so thought you’d like this.’ Either way it’s crap, but I don’t think it’s a confusion between me and an OW. With his life as busy as it is I doubt he’d have time for anyone else and certainly he’d have dropped the ball before now if there was! But it’s given me pause and I’ve got my eye on it.

@Vroomfondleswaistcoat I’m keeping quiet for sure. His only saving grace right now is he knows it’s a place I’ve always wanted to visit. The deli thing is clearly last minute panic bullshit, just so pathetic and ridiculous. I told him so and pointed out that he could have just brought me wine or chocolates - the classics are classic for a reason!

@Pineapplewaves it probably sounds odd to others but our dynamic actually suits me perfectly. He has met my children regularly as I became more certain of our relationship, and they get on fine with him, but they do not need another father figure. I don’t have BF to stay overnight when my dc are at home, but they chat with him then go to bed, then he goes back to his own place. We are taking it super slow involving them in anything with BF as the dc have additional needs, our house is their safe space and I don’t want them to feel invaded. I do see a future with BF but he’s known from the start that we will never live together while my dc are young and at home. He and I are both very independent anyway and the way we are currently is fine by me.

@Heresto26 I am definitely being distant with him at the mo. I put on a smile over Xmas while he was here for a few days but now I just can’t be bothered. Funnily enough I messaged him earlier to see if the gadget is working ok, so will see if he alludes to my “gift” in response. He’s back at work now and it’s a high pressure job so he might not even connect it to my gift.

He definitely isn’t a shit lazy man usually, he had done a similar thing for my birthday but in much better style. Took me for a lovely hotel stay, but the difference was he had a specific location and hotel in mind, asked for my free weekends to work with, and even wrote me a clue so I could guess the mystery location. So this lacklustre situation felt very different!

OP posts:
Heresto26 · 29/12/2025 16:03

pateisacompletemeal · 29/12/2025 15:58

Thanks everyone! Lots of thoughts here.

@rubyslippers it did instantly seem like he’s checked out or it was all a cop out, but I do overthink so am taking some time to sit with it and getting it out here helps me take stock. I am not having a conversation about it. He doesn’t need me to tell him. He must know exactly why he’s done what he’s done. I’m watching and waiting basically, and just letting off steam here.

I agree @StopBothering (I’ll take your username on board when it comes to his gifts!) he’s definitely got comfy the longer we’ve been together but not in this very lazy way before, so this Xmas thing is unusual. He’s put lots of effort in previously so I’m wondering if this is the start of complacency or a bad blip. I’ll wait and see what happens but him just saying nothing til it’s ‘warmer’ doesn’t cut it. I’ll maybe give him a week or so. He needs to come up with a plan well in advance of ‘warmer’ - considering it’s in the UK it could be months til it happens! I did ask a bit about the deli thing, and he went from ‘I thought you loved this’ to ‘well you love nibbly bits and you liked a similar thing from X place so thought you’d like this.’ Either way it’s crap, but I don’t think it’s a confusion between me and an OW. With his life as busy as it is I doubt he’d have time for anyone else and certainly he’d have dropped the ball before now if there was! But it’s given me pause and I’ve got my eye on it.

@Vroomfondleswaistcoat I’m keeping quiet for sure. His only saving grace right now is he knows it’s a place I’ve always wanted to visit. The deli thing is clearly last minute panic bullshit, just so pathetic and ridiculous. I told him so and pointed out that he could have just brought me wine or chocolates - the classics are classic for a reason!

@Pineapplewaves it probably sounds odd to others but our dynamic actually suits me perfectly. He has met my children regularly as I became more certain of our relationship, and they get on fine with him, but they do not need another father figure. I don’t have BF to stay overnight when my dc are at home, but they chat with him then go to bed, then he goes back to his own place. We are taking it super slow involving them in anything with BF as the dc have additional needs, our house is their safe space and I don’t want them to feel invaded. I do see a future with BF but he’s known from the start that we will never live together while my dc are young and at home. He and I are both very independent anyway and the way we are currently is fine by me.

@Heresto26 I am definitely being distant with him at the mo. I put on a smile over Xmas while he was here for a few days but now I just can’t be bothered. Funnily enough I messaged him earlier to see if the gadget is working ok, so will see if he alludes to my “gift” in response. He’s back at work now and it’s a high pressure job so he might not even connect it to my gift.

He definitely isn’t a shit lazy man usually, he had done a similar thing for my birthday but in much better style. Took me for a lovely hotel stay, but the difference was he had a specific location and hotel in mind, asked for my free weekends to work with, and even wrote me a clue so I could guess the mystery location. So this lacklustre situation felt very different!

Oh that's interesting. Why don't you say something next time like that you loved the way he made you guess the location the last time because it was so fun etc and can he do that again. Call his bluff.

dairydebris · 29/12/2025 16:06

I would absolutely deal with this by saying, in a friendly way but as soon as possible, righto bf, you're in my bad books for the poor effort on Christmas. I want to know the dates for this weekend away ASAP and make sure you actually book it, you can make up the rest of the difference on little thoughtful gifts for my birthday. But just so we are clear- your lack of effort compared to mine makes you look like you dont give a shit. And I do not accept that.
Otherwise youre setting him up for failure and youre going to stew in the meantime. Tell him straight exactly how you feel and what you expect for next time.
Be honest about your feelings on this.

StevieNic · 29/12/2025 16:11

I would be really cross, he could have checked dates with you and booked a stay for Jan or even printed off an ‘IOU a weekend away’. Why would you wait until it’s spring/ summer for. Christmas present break? Did he get your kids anything?

pateisacompletemeal · 29/12/2025 16:20

@Heresto26 that’s a good thought! I already know the location so if (hopefully, when not if) he brings it up I might say ‘ooh are you going to do clues for which hotel we are staying at?’ Etc etc and make the point that his previous effort was so much better.

@dairydebris I see your point but I really don’t want to have to raise it. I want to see if he pulls his finger out and takes some initiative. If/when he broaches it, I will then tell him his effort was non existent and how I felt.

@StevieNic exactly my thoughts, it’s a stupid thing to do at this point of the year - my bday would have been a much better time. Or he could have picked any of the 10 more wintery destinations we’ve chatted about and suggested a weekend soon.

OP posts:
dairydebris · 29/12/2025 16:22

pateisacompletemeal · 29/12/2025 16:20

@Heresto26 that’s a good thought! I already know the location so if (hopefully, when not if) he brings it up I might say ‘ooh are you going to do clues for which hotel we are staying at?’ Etc etc and make the point that his previous effort was so much better.

@dairydebris I see your point but I really don’t want to have to raise it. I want to see if he pulls his finger out and takes some initiative. If/when he broaches it, I will then tell him his effort was non existent and how I felt.

@StevieNic exactly my thoughts, it’s a stupid thing to do at this point of the year - my bday would have been a much better time. Or he could have picked any of the 10 more wintery destinations we’ve chatted about and suggested a weekend soon.

Don't let it fester if you love him and otherwise the relationship is good. You set both of you up for failure. I know its shit that it becomes your responsibility to sort. But better to communicate clearly and be open about how you feel. Xx

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