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Engaged to be engaged

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IDrinkTeaAllTheTime · 15/12/2025 05:16

My partner and I have been engaged for five years. Although we’d talked about marriage, the proposal was still a surprise as we’d been together for under a year. From early on, we agreed we both wanted a very small, low-key wedding, as neither of us likes big events and I hate being the centre of attention.

While I wasn’t in a rush to get married and I’m still not, I was clear that I didn’t want an overly long engagement or to be engaged “just because.” We’re both in our late 30s and neither of us has been married before, so while there’s no urgency, it would be nice to make that commitment to him. The legal side of marriage also matters to me as we’re building a future together and I want us both protected.

On Saturday night, while watching a movie, the topic of marriage came up. My partner had had a few beers and tends to get more intense and ranty when he drinks, so I tried to steer the conversation away because I could tell where it was going.

He said we weren’t married yet because I wanted to exclude family. I once suggested eloping when we discussed the kind of wedding we’d like because of my complicated family dynamics, but I’ve always been open to compromise and understand it’s his wedding too.

What he doesn’t seem to understand is that having a very small wedding is much harder for me than for him. He only has his mum and two sisters who are perfectly lovely and normal, whereas my family is much bigger and they’re all very enmeshed, so having a small wedding is difficult because keeping numbers small means multiple people will be pissed off, or I invite everyone to keep them happy, but sacrifice my own comfort. Hence why I would rather just elope and deal with it afterwards, but I completely accept that he doesn’t want this, so I’m happy I compromise and haven’t mentioned eloping since he made it clear that’s not an option.

I explained that this isn’t why we’re not married and that I’ve suggested setting a date several times, only to be met with “next year,” due to various life events, bereavements and house moves, etc. I also don’t want to keep being the one to bring it up.

He then said, in quite a sneery tone, that he doesn’t really care if we get married, that he can’t be bothered with the hassle of it all and only proposed because that’s what I wanted. This is the part that really shocked me, as I’ve never pressured him and have always said marriage isn’t a necessity, only that we’re both protected in some way.

He was the one who proposed off his own back. There was never any kind of ultimatum or pressure of any kind, so I’m really confused by what seems like him completely rewriting history.

I didn’t respond at the time because I was too shocked and he’d been drinking. He also said that if we don’t get married, we’ll just stay engaged forever, which I’m not willing to do. I know I need to talk to him about this, but I’m not sure where to start.

Has anyone been in a similar situation, and how did it work out?

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PermanentTemporary · 15/12/2025 05:21

Ok so he was drunk. If you still want to marry him, I would have a serious conversation when he’s not hungover any more. Say you were quite hurt by his attitude, but that you love him and that you want to get married in May next year (or whenever) and that unless he is willing to actively stop you, you’re going to go ahead and book the register office and a pub for then.

I would invite the minimum number of people you think you can get away with and then stop worrying. Cut the attention bits down - you could just go into the register office together, get the registrars advice on how to keep it simple and unstressful.

IDrinkTeaAllTheTime · 15/12/2025 05:27

PermanentTemporary · 15/12/2025 05:21

Ok so he was drunk. If you still want to marry him, I would have a serious conversation when he’s not hungover any more. Say you were quite hurt by his attitude, but that you love him and that you want to get married in May next year (or whenever) and that unless he is willing to actively stop you, you’re going to go ahead and book the register office and a pub for then.

I would invite the minimum number of people you think you can get away with and then stop worrying. Cut the attention bits down - you could just go into the register office together, get the registrars advice on how to keep it simple and unstressful.

I wouldn’t say he was drunk. He’d had a few beers and alcohol definitely makes him a bit more intense (I’m sure it has the same effect on me), but it’s more noticeable when I’m not drinking.

I do like the advice of just being firm and setting a date, though I have a feeling that he’ll have an issue with that, too. Maybe that’s what I need to do in order to get my answer, though.

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Sillysoggyspaniel · 15/12/2025 05:49

Well, given you've been engaged for five years and has been evasive about setting a date since then I don't think the fact he said he only asked you because he thought you wanted to is actually a surprise - it's backed up by his actions.

If you still want to get married I'd try to just mirror who he invites and both have immediate family only. If you can only have parents and siblings, no partners, for a registry office service and then go for lunch that will do the job. But sadly my suspicions are you'll still hit a lot of resistance as he doesn't actually want to get married.

Stephenkingsbiggestfan · 15/12/2025 05:57

Sounds like he doesn’t actually want to get married which would be a dealbreaker for me.

YRGAM · 15/12/2025 06:02

He doesn't want to get married. Whatever the reasons for that are - fearful of official commitment, some experience in his childhood or with his extended family, not wanting to be told what to do - I think it's quite clear from his actions that he doesn't want to.

You can now either try to force him to get married by booking a venue, accept he doesn't want to and compromise on what you want, or end the relationship.

IDrinkTeaAllTheTime · 15/12/2025 06:10

Stephenkingsbiggestfan · 15/12/2025 05:57

Sounds like he doesn’t actually want to get married which would be a dealbreaker for me.

I agree that it’s starting to sound like he doesn’t want to get married. What’s annoyed me about that, though, is why bother proposing?

I don’t know if he thinks that being engaged actually means something other than a plan to get married, but obviously it’s not a commitment with any kind of legal standing.

The thing is, I would have been quite happy to just be in a relationship and not get married, but we would just need to make sure that we were both protected legally and financially.

I get that people can change their mind, and that’s fine, but the whole thing is just confusing as it was him who proposed, and who engineered all of this, but now he’s making me feel like he was just doing me a favour by proposing to keep me happy (lucky me).

I will be very clear with him that if he doesn’t want to get married, that’s fine, but I don’t see any point in remaining engaged if that’s the case. We can still be together, but being engaged for the sake of being engaged just seems utterly pointless to me.

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firstofallimadelight · 15/12/2025 06:33

You need a conversation when you are both sober. Talk through whether you are still on the same page and if not why not. He wants his mum and sisters there, can you invite your parents and siblings only and be clear that all that’s invited?

firstofallimadelight · 15/12/2025 06:35

Also yes you can just make sure you are both legally protected or have a civil partnership. If you prefer.

IDrinkTeaAllTheTime · 15/12/2025 06:39

firstofallimadelight · 15/12/2025 06:33

You need a conversation when you are both sober. Talk through whether you are still on the same page and if not why not. He wants his mum and sisters there, can you invite your parents and siblings only and be clear that all that’s invited?

I agree, we definitely need to discuss this sooner than later as it’s really thrown me and I don’t want to let it build up.

Yes, I think if we are still planning to get married, that will be the compromise. I know it will still cause a scene with my family, which I really resent because I can’t imagine feeling so entitled about how someone in my family chooses to get married, but that’s a completely different post.

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ShawnaMacallister · 15/12/2025 06:41

You've been engaged for 5 years- you were never going to get married. That should have been clear some time ago. So you have to have a serious conversation where you release the idea of marriage and the idea of being engaged, to remove any further pressure.

HomeTheatreSystem · 15/12/2025 06:42

In your shoes OP, I'd be starting to wonder if he just doesn't want to get married at all or whether it was just me that he doesn't want to marry. Also why would you want to marry someone who proposed way too soon, and are now saying they only did it because they thought it was what you wanted? He's being quite disrespectful towards you here. Are there really no other areas of concern with this man?

AutumnFroglets · 15/12/2025 06:46

He sounds like just another future faker. They promise you things so you stay but non of those promised things happen or happen very grudgingly. They turn nasty or mean to shut you up so you stop asking. It's nearly working as you've put up with this for 5 years with nothing agreed on, no venue, no numbers, no date.

If I was in your shoes I would have one last conversation about marriage but any nastiness or sniping about where, when, who would signal the end of this relationship for me, I would be done. You deserve more than this, and any children you would have together definitely deserve a decent, supportive man in their lives and that includes being decent and kind to their mother.

Out of interest how is he with the rest of your relationship. Is he fair and supportive with finances, house, chores etc or are they all tipped in his favour?þ

metalbottle · 15/12/2025 06:49

Why do you want to marry, or indeed be with, this man who doesn't really care about you @IDrinkTeaAllTheTime ?

Tryingatleast · 15/12/2025 06:52

I d in t agree that he doesn’t want to get married but your whole op, what you both wanted, that was (this sounds awful), what you had decided. Just talk to him. A proper sit dow where you say what you want and listen to what he wants then decide what are deal breakers and how you both feel about each other. I don’t agree with the ‘be firn’ advice- neither of you needs to be manhandled, people get married because they want certain things, and you both need to decide what your future is x

mindutopia · 15/12/2025 09:54

The wedding is not the marriage. Who cares what sort of wedding you have? My wedding was lovely and quite an expensive day, but I’m glad it wasn’t paid for by us because truly it didn’t matter. It’s just a bit of legal wording and a party. It’s not actually a big deal or particularly memorable. It’s the marriage that matters.

As for the wedding, you each invite who you want, so what if you have different priorities? Your partner invites his mum and sister and any friends. You don’t invite your family and you deal with the fall out later as you’ve said. Job done.

It sounds like a lot of fuss about something insignificant, and possibly because neither of you have both feet in. Otherwise, surely you would have had this conversation 5.5 years ago.

Shoxfordian · 15/12/2025 10:39

He doesn't want to marry you, you've been engaged for five years with no plans, its not happening. Stop kidding yourself.

LiddySmallbury · 15/12/2025 10:48

What do you want? Focus on that.

DH would have adored a giant wedding with 200 guests and a massive party and people flying in from all over, but I said the only way I would agree to get married was by ourselves with two witnesses, so that’s what we did.

IDrinkTeaAllTheTime · 15/12/2025 13:22

Shoxfordian · 15/12/2025 10:39

He doesn't want to marry you, you've been engaged for five years with no plans, its not happening. Stop kidding yourself.

Thank you. I think this is what I needed to hear.

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IDrinkTeaAllTheTime · 15/12/2025 13:27

Thanks for all replies so far, I’m still reading through and will respond later this evening when I have some free time.

I don’t really have anyone in my real life that I can speak to about this stuff, not if I want honest and objective opinions, anyway, so I really appreciate everyone who has taken time to respond, even if it’s not exactly what I want to hear.

I will speak to him this weekend when I see him (I’m currently travelling for work), and we can hopefully have an honest conversation about what we want and take it from there.

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AttilaTheMeerkat · 15/12/2025 13:29

He’s not been honest with you and being engaged for five years means he is not at all intending to marry you. You’ve basically been future faked by a future faker. Do not waste any more of your years on him.

Frangardens · 24/02/2026 20:52

My sister in a similar situation. Since you had that chat…. Any movement on him showing an indication to commit to you @IDrinkTeaAllTheTime ? Because this sounds like you are living in limbo

UpDownAllAround1 · 24/02/2026 21:02

He does not want to get married now imo. I have never understood why engagement happens without a date set at same time anyway

Beesandhoney123 · 24/02/2026 22:34

Take your engagement ring off. Put it away. What does it really mean to you?

Have a good look at your current arrangements financially and otherwise. After 5 years you have built a life! And why don't you have anyone in rl to talk to?

Have you been whitewashing him?

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