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Expecting the right behaviour from the wrong person

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Burgundyflamingo · 08/12/2025 18:21

My first post.. read a lot of fantastic advice on Mumsnet over the years
I don't actually know why I'm writing this, I guess to get out thoughts and frustrations without consequence, and possibly some advice from anybody in a similar or previously experienced situation.

Been with a man for nearly a year, met at work. First few months were great (as always), took it slow, both have kids from previous relationships, in our 30's. Had a few arguments in the relationship as a whole, neither of us is perfect and we both had individual work stress.
I've been cheated on in every previous relationship, as had he so trust was always going to be a difficulty in terms of being vulnerable.
He would go out a lot at nights saying he was bored, drink heavily on weekends when he wasn't with me. Over time it seeped into work days/week days. It occured when he had annual leave, 4-5 days of "being out and about" I didn't see him during this time
He has a few friends who I was led to believe encouraged him to drink and get sloppy. (This excuse didn't wash with me as no one can force you to drink or misbehave if they are your friend, there has to be willingness on your side behind it.)

Around summertime on an evening out, he went through my phone then got defensive saying it shouldn't matter if I have nothing to hide. He found zero. I had thoughts to end it then with the lack of trust but saw this as another blip and with our individual history, I suppose previous habits of distrust creep into every further relationship.

I found a message from another woman in his phone roughly 6 weeks ago. Claimed it's a family member/I don't know this person/wrong number, but took the phone back when I suggested let's ring her then. We separated and didn't hear from him until the next day. Attempted to get back on track until this last week.

I had a withheld number contact me with some damaging and frankly disgusting claims about him. Some linked into previous suspicions about other woman/women/drugs/lies, some that I wouldn't have believed and some that the more I think about are ringing true.
Needless to stay, when confronted, everybody's lying, out to get him, I'm the one with the issues, I should believe him, it's clear I don't love him..
Video and photo evidence and knowledge about me from people I have never met are very high indicators of truth.

The frightening thing is that random people have eventually seen the right thing is for me to know the real him yet he can't give me the respect of honesty. He's blocked but the craving for truth and wanting to be validated in previous suspicions tempts me to unblock.

They say when they show you who they are, believe them which I've seen on Mumsnet often, yet I've found myself in the situation where it actually applies.

Every happy memory feels tainted by the videos and photos. Did he ever actually like/love me or was it the attention he liked/loved?
No kids together, no house, no finances so in many respects it is a clean break and not comparable to others situations.

But surely I'm allowed to feel disappointed that once again, you never really know a person truly..
Am I easily manipulated or do I try to see the best in people?
The idea of love and relationships and a partner as a team sounds amazing, yet the reality is much harder and fraught with difficulty.

OP posts:
outerspacepotato · 08/12/2025 18:33

You ignored a lot of red flags. The going out a lot a night because he was bored, heavy drinking, the going through your phone, finding a new woman's number in his phone and he disappears. Those aren't blips. They're red flags that are saying stop.

Read up on red flags. Work on your self esteem instead of worrying about what he felt or didn't feel.

ginasevern · 08/12/2025 18:37

It's hard to understand why you continued to pursue this relationship when he was going out nearly every night, getting drunk and basically calling you boring. To say nothing of the rest of it.

TwistedWonder · 08/12/2025 18:42

Sorry OP but this man was literally waving more red flags than Moscow on May Day right in your face and you chose to ignore them all.

There are good men out there but you need to work on our self respect stern and raise your bar. While you’re wasting time on human shit shows, the good ones will pass you by

Look at the freedom programme to work on you and your boundaries

https://www.freedomprogramme.co.uk/online.php

Burgundyflamingo · 08/12/2025 18:50

outerspacepotato · 08/12/2025 18:33

You ignored a lot of red flags. The going out a lot a night because he was bored, heavy drinking, the going through your phone, finding a new woman's number in his phone and he disappears. Those aren't blips. They're red flags that are saying stop.

Read up on red flags. Work on your self esteem instead of worrying about what he felt or didn't feel.

Thankyou for your reply, yes I 100% agree that with hindsight, the issues didn't just appear towards the end. They were there from the beginning

OP posts:
Burgundyflamingo · 08/12/2025 18:56

ginasevern · 08/12/2025 18:37

It's hard to understand why you continued to pursue this relationship when he was going out nearly every night, getting drunk and basically calling you boring. To say nothing of the rest of it.

Thankyou, it continued because on many occasions, he was the most supportive, funny man who made me feel good. We have many things in common but I also know that wasn't his whole self.
He works insanely hard and never takes breaks, and is very charming.
The drinking came to light a few months in and at times, he would curb it back.

OP posts:
Endofyear · 08/12/2025 23:02

I agree with previous posters, there were many red flags that you didn't pick up on. Yes, of course you can feel disappointed and let down - alternatively you can be happy that you've seen him for who he is and are no longer in a relationship with him! See it as a lucky escape 🤷‍♀️

GarlicRound · 08/12/2025 23:19

Am I easily manipulated or do I try to see the best in people?

Both. Eagerness to see the best in people can make you easily manipulated. You need to be more sceptical and self-protective.

Have people called you a romantic? Do you relish 'heartfelt' quotes like I fell in love with the man he could be, or Love means never having to say you're sorry?

Reading your OP, I had to double-check that you've only been with him for a year! You sure did overlook a lot 😳 Of course you're better off out of this, but please take a breather before you find yourself trying once again to love a bad man better.

I agree you should do the Freedom Programme.

LeslieAne · 09/12/2025 02:45

Can I ask was it a warehouse industry and polish really good reason hun 🫣

LeslieAne · 09/12/2025 02:50

🤓🇵🇱

Enrichetta · 09/12/2025 02:53

Women Who Love Too Much is always worth reading if you’re struggling with men whose red flags you are failing to see…

Seaoftroubles · 09/12/2025 09:37

You learned your lesson the hard way OP and will be wiser and more clued up going forward. As pps have said do the Freedom programme and make sure in future you don't ignore the red flags or make allowances just because they have a few good points! Also get your boundaries sky high, seeing the best in people is nice, but not if they are going to trample all over you.

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