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I’ve checked out! Is my Marriage over?

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Newcastleman · 07/12/2025 21:27

My wife and I have been together for ten years. Our relationship functions in a straightforward way: we have no kids together but I have kids from a past relationship but they are grown up now. we each have our own hobbies, which we pursue independently, and we spend time together in between. We take luxury holidays and city breaks throughout the year, and the balance of independence and shared time generally works well. We maintain individual space rather than being constantly together.

From the beginning, aside from the initial honeymoon phase typical in most relationships, sexual intimacy has been a consistent issue. My wife has not shown initiative or self-driven desire in this area. Our pattern has involved temporary periods of increased effort followed by a return to her usual comfort level. There have been periods where we have gone months without physical contact. We have discussed this many times and attempted various approaches to address it.

At one stage, she told me she was bi-curious. I viewed this as a possible turning point. We attended a couple of clubs, where she eventually engaged with another woman, and the experience was positive. I believed this might create a desire in her to pursue intimacy more proactively. However, the relationship returned to its previous pattern soon afterwards.

In 2023, I was diagnosed with cancer during another period of low sexual intimacy. She was scheduled to take me to my surgery appointment. The day before the operation, we had an argument initiated by her without a clear cause, and she declined to take me to the hospital the next day. I arranged alternative transport with my father. The surgery was postponed, and I travelled home by bus. This event marked a significant moment in the relationship. Although I forgave her for this, I have not understood how someone could watch their husband walk out of the door to a cancer operation alone. There were other incidents during this period that showed a lack of empathy for my situation. Without detailing each one, the overall summary is that I felt I faced this period largely on my own.

Several months later, I began a 12-month treatment period. It was difficult, and during this time our relationship reached a low point. We came close to separating, but due to other pressures, I chose to continue with the marriage, as I did not feel I had the capacity to manage further challenges at that time.

My treatment concluded in January 2025. As of December, we continue to experience cycles of sexual activity followed by long periods without it. My personal circumstances have changed significantly this year: I have recovered from cancer, lost 6 stone, and reversed type 2 diabetes. I previously took 22 pills per day for cancer and diabetes and now take none. I have significantly more energy and a desire to live life fully. While I have progressed in these areas, the relationship dynamic has remained largely the same.

We have discussed these issues many times. Recently, I sent her a detailed message outlining all my thoughts. She acknowledged it but has not raised the subject since. My current view is that we may be in different places regarding outlook and priorities. When sexual activity does occur, it is typically brief and appears to be fitted in rather than initiated with enthusiasm.

My overall assessment is that she values the concept and appearance of marriage, but for reasons that are unclear, she does not appear to want to engage fully with the sexual aspect of the relationship. Despite years of conversations about this topic, I have not received a clear explanation. I have asked whether she might be a lesbian, which she says she is not. The most consistent reason she has given is that she is “just lazy.”

As a result, there is no intimacy in our relationship, and it feels more like a housemate dynamic. I want a relationship in which I can enjoy life with someone, look after them, and feel looked after in return. I acknowledge that my cancer experience has left some mental effects and has contributed to a shift in my outlook on life, but this was a turbulent period in which I faced the genuine possibility of the end of my life.

What I am asking for is a healthy sex life as a 46-year-old healthy man, am I being selfish?

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SeriouslyStressed · 07/12/2025 22:02

The biggest issue here seems to be a
lack of empathy and emotional connection. From both of you to each other.
This has led to you feeling like she should be trying harder to have sex with you because you want (deserve?) more sex.
While she can’t bring herself to have sex with someone she has no emotional connection to.

thrive25 · 07/12/2025 22:04

Sorry to read all this

Was your cancer serious enough that you might have died? If so perhaps your wife who ‘values the appearance of marriage’ was waiting to see how your illness progressed

also, perhaps she has realised she is not straight

Newcastleman · 07/12/2025 22:06

thrive25 · 07/12/2025 22:04

Sorry to read all this

Was your cancer serious enough that you might have died? If so perhaps your wife who ‘values the appearance of marriage’ was waiting to see how your illness progressed

also, perhaps she has realised she is not straight

Well she says the lesbian thing isn’t the issue. She totally says she’s not lesbian. The cancer could have been serious enough to die but was caught early enough. Im
still under watch for 5 years

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TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 07/12/2025 22:08

Whenever men post on here about relationship troubles they invariably complain about insufficient sex.

Newcastleman · 07/12/2025 22:09

TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 07/12/2025 22:08

Whenever men post on here about relationship troubles they invariably complain about insufficient sex.

Do you not think it’s an important part of a relationship?

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Isayitasitis · 07/12/2025 22:11

TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 07/12/2025 22:08

Whenever men post on here about relationship troubles they invariably complain about insufficient sex.

It can be a death toll sounding that's why.

And it isn't always men.

My partner no longer has sex with me for various reasons and it is a very lonely place to be. To feel so rejected by the person you love the most creates such a deep wound. It is the glue that binds you, other you might as well be flat mates. It is soul destroying.

It is easy to judge when your feelings are not involved.

DontPokeMe · 07/12/2025 22:18

I'm sorry to hear what you have been through and Congratulations for your recovery.

Has your wife always been so cold emotionally? If not, when did it change?

Has sex (other than honeymoon phase) with your wife ever been good/consistent? If so, when did it change?

OttersMayHaveShifted · 07/12/2025 22:19

You are going to get varied responses on here about the lack of sex aspect. But whether or not that is considered a valid dealbreaker, I think your wife's attitude during your cancer treatment, and her dismissive responses when you have tried to discuss your physical relationship with her, are definitely valid dealbreakers.

And whether or not her coldness and lack of empathy towards you are a reaction to complaints she might have about your treatment of her, it doesn't sound as though this is fixable.

Burntt · 07/12/2025 22:21

from my point of view I’m not so much in the mood when I’ve had all the housework and mental load of the house on me. Could you try taking in more of that so she has the energy?

also it’s not nice being nagged for sex. Try wooing her again. Plan a date night when you have done all the housework and spend time talking about anything but sex. Have fun together for the purposes of enjoying each others company not to achieve sex. Once she feels valued as a person she should come around.

although all that said I’m not sure I could get over the lack of support during cancer. Perhaps you should book some couples councilling to address whatever underlying issues there are because even when you are in a phase when you don’t like your partner to leave them alone facing cancer is pretty poor

u3ername · 07/12/2025 22:24

I mean, I can totally live without sex but I understand it’s important to some people (like my dh).
What’s important to me is connection, communication, and the feeling that we have each other’s back.

You sound like a good communicator. It seems like you feel let down by her and you don’t feel you can rely on her support. You also don’t feel like she loves you (she loves the idea of marriage only) and that’s why you’re focused on the sex?

I’d may be try to love her a bit more - show love and thoughtfulness, care and respect, caress and cuddle, smile and tell her why you’re grateful to have her in your life (genuinely) and see if that turns things around for her.

Second option would be couples’ therapy. And if you’re still not feeling it- yes, it’s over.
I would put some more effort before I give up though, because dating is hard and you might end up worse off or lonely.
But of course you deserve to be loved and supported by your partner. Good luck.

Bungle2168 · 07/12/2025 22:26

“I think it's the same with all the relationships between a man and a woman. They can survive anything so long as some kind of basic humanity exists between the two people. When all kindness has gone, when one person obviously and sincerely doesn't care if the other is alive or dead, then it's just no good.”

  • Ian Fleming
Newcastleman · 08/12/2025 08:48

Bungle2168 · 07/12/2025 22:26

“I think it's the same with all the relationships between a man and a woman. They can survive anything so long as some kind of basic humanity exists between the two people. When all kindness has gone, when one person obviously and sincerely doesn't care if the other is alive or dead, then it's just no good.”

  • Ian Fleming

Very true

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