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Friendship issues eating me up

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Thegirlisnotright · 04/12/2025 08:19

I live in a small place, kids all go to the same school etc. Not long after I moved here, another family did and we became friendly with them. Our daughters are great friends. We’ve been on holiday together. The other mum is very sociable, and now has a huge circle of friends. There is no one I’m friends with in this small place that isn’t also friends with her. She now has a tight friendship group that doesn’t include me. I think in the case of a couple of them they actively dislike me. Their husbands all play golf and drink together and that excludes my husband from their groups too. My friend is happy to spend time with me, but it now tends to be 1:1 only because I’m not included in that other friendship group. New people have moved into the village and been included.
the issue is that the thoughts of how rubbish I am and how unlikeable I am consume me. I wish I was more popular but I’m not. I sometimes don’t sleep because I’m thinking about it. How do I come to terms with it? I know I can’t control what other people do, and I can’t make people like me. I know there’s no rule that says people should invite me to things. I love my friend and I wouldn’t want to cut ties with her, plus it’s a small place etc as detailed above. Help?!

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Garlicchick · 06/12/2025 08:50

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Benjithedog · 06/12/2025 09:00

PaperPond · 05/12/2025 23:54

I don’t see how that is helpful to the OP. Her close friend does socialise with people who apparently don’t like the OP, though it’s impossible to know whether this is just the OP’s poor self-esteem speaking. We can have no idea whether there is any ‘reason’ for the dislike. And it’s not the OP’s group. It’s a group of people with whom her sole link is that she’s friends with one member. There’s no particular reason to expect to socialise with them, but the OP is tormenting herself about it.

It’s called being a nice person

FeaturingMe · 06/12/2025 09:08

Namechangetime99 · 05/12/2025 19:58

What is the name for behavior where posters deny the very real valid experience of a poster and try to convince her she is the problem?

Gaslighting feels too strong a word as I understand this is ongoing longer term behavior against an individual - and my oh my do I have extensive experience of being on the end of that.

Any suggestions as to what we can call this rancid behavior on here I see it again and again on posts on MN. Is that what the latest deleted poster has been doing?

OP, your feelings are right. Distance from Queen Bee social butterfly and branch out quietly into other things, hobbies, people you feel good around. Flowers for you.....💐

These types of posts you're talking about -
I know exactly what you're describing.
I see it a lot on mumsnet too.
I have no evidence to back up my thinking, but when I read them, I always get a really strong sense that they are written by men.

allthingsinmoderation · 06/12/2025 09:26

Im sorry you have experienced being excluded from this friendship group.
I dont think its unreasonable that you feel upset and hurt about that.
You cant control what others do and the "let them" theory springs to mind.
You could choose to explain to you close friend how you feel about being excluded from the wider group,she may be able to shed some light on whats really going on here.

whymadam · 06/12/2025 14:17

Omg I feel for you. You live in a village! I thought village life would be idyllic. I craved it. Me and DH bought a house in a picture perfect spot and we were super happy there. But, big boo boo, I mistook curiosity for friendship, I didn't understand the cliques, and could never keep up with who wasn't speaking to whom. I made social gaffes and was regarded as a bit of an oddity. This is my opinion, only mine, please don't hate me - but I found village life petty. We moved into a nice big country town when we downsized. So much nicer! Tbf we have 2 sets of lovely village friends, but good riddance to the rest of em.

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