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Reflecting on oldest friendship

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TheBlueRobin · 03/12/2025 05:58

Hi, not sure what I'm after really. Spoke to an old friend last night and reflecting on our friendship and how our lives differ. And if we'd still be friends if there wasn't so much shared history and also how to support a friend without compromising myself.

Disclaimer - I have used co pilot to tidy this up as it was just a stream of consciousness.

I have been best friends with her for nearly twenty years sinceour teens, and we know each other inside out. Our conversations are enriching and stimulating, as we share many interests in books, films, television, history, views on issues. Because she lives about four hours away, we mostly connect by phone.

She has a young daughter and is a devoted, loving mum. To cover her bills, she works three minimum-wage jobs - pub shifts, night-time car park security, and support work. She's often exhausted when we do catch up. Her life feels very hard compared to her younger years, when she lived abroad, partied a lot, and graduated with a 2:1 from a Russell Group university. She has never been a “9–5 type,” but more of a daydreamer who values flexibility.

Her partner is hot-headed, arrogant and disrespectful, and I do not like him. Much of our monthly phone catch-ups revolve around his overbearing mother or their arguments. She has invited me to visit her new house, but I am reluctant to go. I do not enjoy being around her partner, and I worry it would be a weekend of not doing much because she rarely plans ahead. I remember visiting her years ago and being dragged around house viewings because she had them scheduled qnd forgot they clashed. In her younger days of house-sharing, she often had conflicts with housemates, likely because she is headstrong and difficult to share space with.

Her relationship with her own family is tense. Her mum is erratic and tends to favour her sister. I suspect she may be neurodiverse in some way. She has been treated for anxiety and depression, and she struggles with punctuality, day-to-day organisation, looking after a home and maintaining friendships.

Despite these difficulties, she remains witty, inquisitive, and interesting to talk to. She was a good friend when it mattered most, she travelled to my mum’s funeral, gave me space for my grief in our conversations, and made me feel seen. Sometimes I feel worn out after talking to her, as the conversations often circle around drama or struggles. I am getting married, and she is thrilled for me. Ordinarily, it would make sense to ask her to be a bridesmaid, but I am not doing traditional bridesmaids anyway, and I feel she would struggle with the responsibility and reliability. I worked hard for a promotion in work recently and felt reluctant to share it knowing how difficult her job history has been, I did tell her but felt that she wasn't overly enthusiastic.

I would love to suggest a weekend away for just the two of us so we could have quality time together, but I know money is tight for her, which makes it complicated. Honestly, I think we might have lost touch over the years if I had not been the one putting in the effort to keep the friendship alive.

On the other hand, I have a corporate 9-5, haven't lived abroad, stayed in my uni town but have travelled, had many experiences and lots of friends. I do crave structure and stability and my friend once made a passing remark that my life was boring in our twenties.

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FracasFracas · 03/12/2025 06:31

It’s not clear what you’re asking. OP? Should you visit her? Pay for her to go on a weekend away? Continue the friendship? Have a less boring life?

TheBlueRobin · 03/12/2025 06:35

FracasFracas · 03/12/2025 06:31

It’s not clear what you’re asking. OP? Should you visit her? Pay for her to go on a weekend away? Continue the friendship? Have a less boring life?

As I said at the start, I'm not really sure what I'm after. I was hoping an outside perspective could provide some clarity.

Part of me wants to help her and give her support because it's sad to see her struggle and unhappy. Other part of me thinks well her life is the outcome of all the decisions she's made along the way.

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MrsPrendergast · 03/12/2025 06:36

What is it you want to know?

I'll tell you what I think. The friendship, as it stands atm, is best left to phone conversations.

Notrees · 03/12/2025 06:37

It sounds like you are having a massive dig at her. She may be a good friend to you, but you sound like a shit one to her. Very much looking down your nose at her.

FracasFracas · 03/12/2025 06:41

TheBlueRobin · 03/12/2025 06:35

As I said at the start, I'm not really sure what I'm after. I was hoping an outside perspective could provide some clarity.

Part of me wants to help her and give her support because it's sad to see her struggle and unhappy. Other part of me thinks well her life is the outcome of all the decisions she's made along the way.

Honestly, you sound rather ungenerous about her to me. If I wanted to see a valued friend who lived a long way from me, I wouldn’t be put off by not liking her partner or whether she had enjoyable activities planned. And surely if you’d like to go away together, you can pay for her? What type of help and support are you envisaging offering her?

BluntAzureDreamer · 03/12/2025 06:42

Friendships do reach an expiry date sometimes. We're not really taught that; the common perception is that you should be friends with people for life but we do know that in romantic relationships, sometimes they reach their natural end and the same is true for platonic relationships too. Sometimes we hang onto old friends just because of shared history. That sounds like what is happening here. Maybe you distance yourself slowly and gently if you're no longer getting anything out of the friendship. It's a tough one, breaking up with friends is hard to do but it's sometimes necessary for your own peace

NewUserName2244 · 03/12/2025 07:00

I think that as an older adult you can’t replicate those friendships which you make early on, there is something about growing together which brings a depth which doesn’t exist when you meet at a later stage. Even if you aren’t very close at the moment, I think you will feel the loss of this relationship as you get older if you don’t continue with it.

So, I would keep this relationship. She obviously cares about you, wants to spend time with you, and has been there for you when you needed her. I don’t think that it matters that she has a different life from you, and arguably the friendship is more important if her partner is a bit of a twat. She’s almost certainly working in that way to minimise childcare costs and both finances and wages will shift a bit once her child gets more independent.

On a practical level could you go and visit by staying in a pub nearby rather than at hers if that’s a bit too intense?

IfyouStealMySunshine · 03/12/2025 07:46

I think it’s hard as friendships in school and university will have you all mostly in the same situation but as you get older your lives can all vary so much.

There has been waxing and waning in some of my longest lasting friendships depending on the season of life we’re in.

Sometimes it’s hard to see others regularly it’s about keeping in touch. Could be that you just book a premier inn halfway between you both in a city? I just met up with a uni friend for the day at a city for the day even though we live 3 hours apart then there’s no partner and you could just go for lunch and have a catch up somewhere neutral.
In my view I think Long term friendships are worth having unless the person is horrible, selfish or disinterested and that means through all ups and downs of life.

paradisecircus · 03/12/2025 08:19

I think she sounds worth the effort - you've been friends for 20 years and you value what she brings to your life. Presumably you're in your 30s so there's a lot of time ahead and she won't always have the pressures (e.g. young daughter) she has now - things will evolve and the friendship has the potential to bring more to your life as long as you aren't too rigid in your expectations and continue to be judicious about conversation topics.

Having said that, I understand your reservations about going to stay with her for the weekend - I wouldn't want to either if I felt uncomfortable around the partner. Does she live near enough for you to visit for a shorter time?

Also agree about not suggesting a weekend away (as nice as that would be) if you know she can't afford it.

TheBlueRobin · 03/12/2025 08:21

Thanks for taking the time to respond to my insomnia musings.

Some of the replies have been really helpful, recognising the nuance of changing friendships and lives and that shared history and understanding could never be replaced. I've no intentions of ending the friendship at all.

To those that have suggested I've been a bad friend, I'll take that on board because self reflection is always useful. I know I'm not perfect. However I do recognise she isn't either which is kind of the point of this thread. Yet I think if we didn't go back such a long way and met more recently, we wouldn't still be friends.

However, I'm always at the other end of the phone listening and never judging and I think I've been very patient. My Mum used to say that she always knew when my friend had been in the car because the windows were so steamed up from talking! 🤣

I'm not expecting activities or airs and graces etc but I think making a guest feel welcomed is important. The halfway suggestion is a good one. I did invite her to mine for a weekend but she cancelled last minute due to something she forgot about. Sometimes it does make me scream because I think how can you be in your 30s and not show respect for other people's time.

I'm sadly not in a position to pay for us to go away, just because I'm in a 9-5 doesn't mean I'm rolling in it. She grew up in a much wealthier family and I've always been conscious of finances from a young age, hence wanting stability.

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Suednymph · 03/12/2025 11:27

Notrees · 03/12/2025 06:37

It sounds like you are having a massive dig at her. She may be a good friend to you, but you sound like a shit one to her. Very much looking down your nose at her.

All of this. OP you sound vile to be honest. I cannot imagine pretending to be a friend to someone and then posting all of their personal stuff online just to rip them apart.

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