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OneRedNewt · 25/11/2025 05:46

Faith has been stuck between two men who meet opposite halves of her needs. Mont gives her the practical future she wants, but he fails her emotionally, he shuts down when she’s overwhelmed, has told her “whatever this is,” suggested taking breaks, called her asking for updates “stalker behavior,” and becomes logical instead of supportive when she needs comfort. Helia gives her emotional safety, reads her well, stays during her breakdowns, and never abandons her, but he is possessive, insecure, wanted her attention constantly, and refuses the separate home and independence she considers essential to her future. Because of this, Faith feels like she would lose her freedom with Helia and lose her emotional stability with Mont.

Faith flirted with Mont while she was still unsure about Helia, felt guilty when Mont confessed, and now feels trapped because Mont’s big promises (“I’d marry you,” “I’ll take you with me wherever I go”) don’t match how detached he acts. Mont suggested distance multiple times, disappears mid-conversations, and prioritizes everything else before her despite saying she’s important. Meanwhile, Helia still misses her deeply and clings to her friend for updates, but Faith knows choosing him means giving up her independence. She wants a year-long break from both because she feels pressured to “show up” emotionally even when she can’t, and she fears Mont might give her a symbolic gift that emotionally traps her into a promise she isn’t ready to make.

Ultimately, Faith’s dilemma is that Mont makes her feel like a burden, and Helia makes her feel held but trapped. She is terrified of choosing wrong because she needs to see the “worst” in people to know if she can walk through life with them, and Mont consistently fails those emotional tests while Helia fails the independence ones.

What should Faith do?

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NestEmptying · 25/11/2025 05:55

Both have major red flags. Faith should choose neither and raise her standards.
Also, this reads like a bad romance novel from the past.

Climbinghigher · 25/11/2025 06:02

Bin them both.

SageSorrelSaffron · 25/11/2025 06:06

Faith should get herself into therapy, and put both those losers in the bin.

summitfever · 25/11/2025 06:10

you do realise there is an option three, to recognise that neither of these men are the one and walk away? That’s the one. There are another 3-4 billion men on this earth why settle for either of these oddballs?

AttilaTheMeerkat · 25/11/2025 06:10

Bin them both and get therapy as to why you keep choosing men so poorly. Your type is not your type.

What did you learn about relationships when you were growing up?.

MadamDicey · 25/11/2025 06:13

Neither , they can't give what faith wants and needs.

Dolamroth · 25/11/2025 06:14

Dump them both, listen to some Chaka Khan and raise your standards.

strange25 · 25/11/2025 06:16

Faith answered her own question, faith wants a year long break.

Yamamm · 25/11/2025 06:24

Why the rush to settle for one of them? Are you actually in a relationship with both of them currently? That won’t help.

yikesss · 25/11/2025 06:30

Neither they both sound awful

OneRedNewt · 25/11/2025 06:46

Faith has known both the men for some while now. With Helia it has been a few years, and with Mont it's been more than 5. She cares for the both of them, but will eventually have to choose.

She isn't in a relationship currently, and the thought of getting to know someone new scares her. Both men do sound awful as they aren't adding value to her existence, but isn't life about making the choices with what we have and be grateful about it?

Do you think that Helia would give her that independence someday, or will Mont become emotionally stable? We know that love isn't everything, now is it?

What is more achievable in life?

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SoManyDandelions · 25/11/2025 06:57

Neither of these men are the one for you.

Choose option c - being single and happy on your own. Fill your life with friends and hobbies and travel and work. Maybe you'll then meet Hamish, who fulfills your emotional needs while respecting your need for independence. Maybe you won't. But surely being on your own with the potential to meet Hamish is better than being stuck in an unhappy relationship with Mont and/or Helia?

Seaoftroubles · 25/11/2025 07:15

She doesn't 'have to choose' either of them. She can prioritise herself and walk away from both.

OneRedNewt · 13/05/2026 22:04

UPDATE!
Things with Helia came to a dead end as everything took a sharp left turn, and has ended for good this time. Faith vows not to go back, as Helia has always been a blood sucking pest who drained her energy, charm, and vibes because of his own insecurities. He made promises he never had the balls to follow through because he enjoyed the comfort he had with Faith, but didn't want to put the effort to change for her, and listen to whatever she asked of him.

Things with Mont have gone back to being just "friends". He moved abroad, and is figuring out life and what that shall bring him. There's constantly a bit of flirting here and there, but with Mont, Faith feels like she can give things a try. He's been trying to open up emotionally, but there are still times he acts up and shifts back to his old cold demeanor and it hits a nerve, but she hasn't decided anything. Mont has always been a friend since school, it's gonna be tougher to cut him out (p.s. she doesn't want to either).

Are things looking better or deteriorating?

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MyThreeWords · 13/05/2026 22:14

Why is Faith so coldly analytical of both of these people, speaking of each of them as if they were faulty goods that don't quite meet her needs, or as case studies in the agony aunt page of a teen romance magazine?

I know you have to simplify for communication purposes, but I don't think I have ever read such a depersonalising account of the 'product specifications' of potential life partners

SconehengeRevenge · 13/05/2026 22:25

Added to pp's, faith also sounds like a walking red flag

MyThreeWords · 13/05/2026 22:27

How would Mont and Helia write Faith up?

Faith wants someone who is "supportive when she needs comfort" and "stays during her breakdowns", but she insists that the people who give her this must not make her feel "pressured to show up emotionally". She wants someone who will fulfil her requests for updates without calling them "stalker behaviour" but who doesn't "cling to" sources of updates about her.

Faith wants her own home for the purposes of independence and wants a year-long break, but she is critical of Mont for suggesting taking breaks.

Faith sounds quite hard work.

Ipsevenenabibas · 13/05/2026 22:28

Faith shouldn't settle for either.

blythet · 13/05/2026 22:31

MyThreeWords · 13/05/2026 22:27

How would Mont and Helia write Faith up?

Faith wants someone who is "supportive when she needs comfort" and "stays during her breakdowns", but she insists that the people who give her this must not make her feel "pressured to show up emotionally". She wants someone who will fulfil her requests for updates without calling them "stalker behaviour" but who doesn't "cling to" sources of updates about her.

Faith wants her own home for the purposes of independence and wants a year-long break, but she is critical of Mont for suggesting taking breaks.

Faith sounds quite hard work.

Hahaha brilliant response 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

OneRedNewt · 14/05/2026 07:42

Maybe Faith wasn't always like this? Maybe Faith's foundations have been shook because of what she went through in her relationship with Helia?

A little backstory: Mont is her high school friend, whom she liked but he didn't like her back then. He admits he did, but wasn't brave enough to confess. Years passed, and Faith came across Helia, who seemed like a dream boat. However, as time went on, the cracks in the relationship seemed evident. Since Helia was such a performative ass, she gave him chances over and over again, but he always screwed things up. Her parents also rejected the idea of him, because he was toxic, wasn't focusing on his studies, and financially at a bad place. None of this affected her, until Helia started controlling her and said he was jealous if she watched her favorite boybands perform, and to wear a face mask while heading out, and constantly talk to him via texts. That was the last straw for her, and things ended.

Mont was through all this, she had been talking to him all this while, and is confused whether she should like him back as she did in the past.

The fact that she "wants someone who is "supportive when she needs comfort" and "stays during her breakdowns", but she insists that the people who give her this must not make her feel "pressured to show up emotionally". She wants someone who will fulfil her requests for updates without calling them "stalker behaviour" but who doesn't "cling to" sources of updates about her.
Faith wants her own home for the purposes of independence and wants a year-long break, but she is critical of Mont for suggesting taking breaks."

is all of her trauma and thinking about the worst case scenario surfacing. With all this, she misses herself more than anything. She misses the life she had before the two of them, and wants to find herself first who's lost somewhere. She doesn't know where to look.

Why is it so hard to find yourself after a rough patch?

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MyThreeWords · 14/05/2026 07:59

Ok so it's becoming clear now that Faith's main problem is that she's in a bad novel.

EddieMunson · 14/05/2026 08:14

I don’t know these people

OneRedNewt · 14/05/2026 08:19

This isn't a bad novel. This is someone struggling. Faith's mental health is going down the drain.

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EddieMunson · 14/05/2026 09:21

Maybe she needs to take some time on her own, attending therapy and building up non-romantic based support networks, rather than fretting over men?

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