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Time to leave but feel so guilty.

45 replies

Ringaroundtherosies · 19/11/2025 09:38

I've been with my partner for five years. He has three children, two older ones (DSS 24 & DSD 22) both by his ex wife, who he met when he was 18 and she was 24. They married when he was 20, after she stated she was getting older and wanted to have children. Then came along DSS, then she wanted another baby soon after, and so DSD came along quickly after. He went into a trade his ex wife wanted him to go into, as her brother was established and he made a decent living from it. A few years on, the pressure from her controlling behaviour and his inability to keep up with her demands, apparently led to her having an affair with her boss and leaving him in a lot of debt.
He met his youngest daughters mum (currently 10) two years post divorce. He said she was like a breath of fresh air and within 18 months, they were pregnant. They were both similar in the sense that they're both very laidback and passive. She is a heavy pot smoker, saying it's for a bad back and doesn't like taking prescription medication. The problem is, she has ongoing depression and has now been diagnosed with PMDD, so can be very difficult to deal with sometimes. This worsening after their daughter was born. They eventually broke up when DD was three and we met a couple of years later.
I have two DS aged 12 and 18. My ex partner was also very controlling, and so we had things in common when we met and much we could relate to. I drew upon this experience and used a gentle approach, when getting to know one another, aware of how triggering it can be to form a new relationship, when experiencing such a conflicted one previously. I met his older children around 9 months in, him meeting mine a year in. His son is very much like his dad; he's very laid back, has a funny sense of humour and is also very kind. His daughter is also very laid back, but can and has caused some trouble for us, going back telling her mum personal details that then get blown up and fed back to ex number two. Their mum has never taken the time to get to know me, I am six years younger than my partner and she calls me 'the child bride', despite us not being married. Ex number 2 has harassed me basically, sent me messages, rang me, has never let me meet their child and refuses contact if partner suggests it, has tried to sleep with him and made advances multiple times. It's been tough.
After two years, we moved in together and that's when things really ramped up. Ex no 2 demands he sleeps there on Christmas Eve, he takes his older two and they have Christmas Eve with their sibling. The first year or so, I was ok with this. I now see that myself and my children are just purposely excluded. I do everything for Christmas, as I seem to have become the carer for everyone. A role I'd slipped into before I'd noticed to be honest. I always ensure the kids are treated equally and that I don't overwhelm anyone. DSD has ADHD and can be irritable and quite demanding, so I approach with caution. DSS is away completing a masters and my eldest son is now at uni. DSD is over a lot and really just abuses the house to the fullest, will dye her hair and leave it all over the bath, leaves every cup, plate, bowl in the sink. Leave dirty clothes all over the room and bathroom. I get home before DP and am met with a bombsite. She continuously says how her ex step mum was rubbish with her, but then goes and tells her things about our relationship. DP gets calls about personal conversations we have had that she's fed back. I buy the shopping and when she stays over, which is quite often because her mums husband doesn't want her there, I can go through and extra £60-£70 p/w on shopping and toiletries easy.
Last year I'd been ill with pneumonia a few months before and thought I'd treat myself, DP and kids to Christmas dinner out, DSD was supposed to be at her mums. Once she realised we were going out, she then wanted to come. DSS then asked to join and I somehow ended up footing the bill. The lunch literally cost me hundreds of pounds and then I was left shortly after to go home with my boys, as they were going back to ex number 2, to spend time with the little one. They took the presents and opened them there. I'd been so poorly not too long before and had really tried to have a special Christmas, but arrived home feeling really upset to be honest. It's my birthday coming up and I've made plans with friends, DP is coming and then insisted we invite his children, and the expectation is for me to book everyone's tickets and pay. He's also said he wants to go out for dinner again this Christmas and the kids want to come, no offer to help towards the cost.
I feel so overlooked and to be honest, I'm starting to feel really used. We've lived together three years and not spent a Christmas Day together but I'm good enough to pay for everything and make sure everyone is happy. I don't like how my children are left out either, they are really respectful towards DP and his children and although he's good with them, I feel it's obvious we will never be seen as family. I've made the decision to end things, as I can't go on being treated like this. I feel a lot of guilt though, as my children have never seen me with anyone else, except this partner and their dad. I feel like I've let them down by not wanting to stay and be treated this way. I also feel bad on wanting to ask him to leave so close to Christmas but can't stand another Christmas like last year. Do you think I should stick it out till after Christmas, or ask him to leave now? I'm really upset and unsure.
Thank you x

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KidsDoBetter · 19/11/2025 09:40

Can you do a summary? Really hard to read with no paragraphs.

jocktamsonsbairn · 19/11/2025 09:47

Ask him to leave now, get some space and you and your dc plan for the Christmas you want first then take time to work out what life you want next.
do you own the house or is is jointly owned/rented?
maybe this is the wake up call your relationship needs and your partner needs to start prioritising you as well as his DC if he wants the relationship to continue.
his XW2 should not be calling the shits - but be careful and make sure you are hearing the actual truth and not just his version of the truth!
You also need to establish ground rules in your home as the DC/SDC who live there or visit are adults and need to be respectful.
sounds like you are chief cook and bottle washer while footing the bill for it too. I’d be having a frank conversation with him and make it clear you are not going to put up with it any longer.

Steelasprey · 19/11/2025 09:48

You sound like a lovely, considerate person and just because you provide stability and support you are being taken advantage of and mistreated.
Your own children will see and benefit from your putting yourself and them ahead of the demands of some pretty dysfunctional people: just walk away and leave them to it.

AttilaTheMeerkat · 19/11/2025 09:50

Is the property in your name?. He may well refuse to leave if he has any title on the property?.

Better to be in your own with your children than to be this badly accompanied. Get therapy for yourself going forward to determine exactly what you chose such men to be with. Your type is not your type.

LittleCapybara · 19/11/2025 09:52

Ringaroundtherosies · 19/11/2025 09:38

I've been with my partner for five years. He has three children, two older ones (DSS 24 & DSD 22) both by his ex wife, who he met when he was 18 and she was 24. They married when he was 20, after she stated she was getting older and wanted to have children. Then came along DSS, then she wanted another baby soon after, and so DSD came along quickly after. He went into a trade his ex wife wanted him to go into, as her brother was established and he made a decent living from it. A few years on, the pressure from her controlling behaviour and his inability to keep up with her demands, apparently led to her having an affair with her boss and leaving him in a lot of debt.
He met his youngest daughters mum (currently 10) two years post divorce. He said she was like a breath of fresh air and within 18 months, they were pregnant. They were both similar in the sense that they're both very laidback and passive. She is a heavy pot smoker, saying it's for a bad back and doesn't like taking prescription medication. The problem is, she has ongoing depression and has now been diagnosed with PMDD, so can be very difficult to deal with sometimes. This worsening after their daughter was born. They eventually broke up when DD was three and we met a couple of years later.
I have two DS aged 12 and 18. My ex partner was also very controlling, and so we had things in common when we met and much we could relate to. I drew upon this experience and used a gentle approach, when getting to know one another, aware of how triggering it can be to form a new relationship, when experiencing such a conflicted one previously. I met his older children around 9 months in, him meeting mine a year in. His son is very much like his dad; he's very laid back, has a funny sense of humour and is also very kind. His daughter is also very laid back, but can and has caused some trouble for us, going back telling her mum personal details that then get blown up and fed back to ex number two. Their mum has never taken the time to get to know me, I am six years younger than my partner and she calls me 'the child bride', despite us not being married. Ex number 2 has harassed me basically, sent me messages, rang me, has never let me meet their child and refuses contact if partner suggests it, has tried to sleep with him and made advances multiple times. It's been tough.
After two years, we moved in together and that's when things really ramped up. Ex no 2 demands he sleeps there on Christmas Eve, he takes his older two and they have Christmas Eve with their sibling. The first year or so, I was ok with this. I now see that myself and my children are just purposely excluded. I do everything for Christmas, as I seem to have become the carer for everyone. A role I'd slipped into before I'd noticed to be honest. I always ensure the kids are treated equally and that I don't overwhelm anyone. DSD has ADHD and can be irritable and quite demanding, so I approach with caution. DSS is away completing a masters and my eldest son is now at uni. DSD is over a lot and really just abuses the house to the fullest, will dye her hair and leave it all over the bath, leaves every cup, plate, bowl in the sink. Leave dirty clothes all over the room and bathroom. I get home before DP and am met with a bombsite. She continuously says how her ex step mum was rubbish with her, but then goes and tells her things about our relationship. DP gets calls about personal conversations we have had that she's fed back. I buy the shopping and when she stays over, which is quite often because her mums husband doesn't want her there, I can go through and extra £60-£70 p/w on shopping and toiletries easy.
Last year I'd been ill with pneumonia a few months before and thought I'd treat myself, DP and kids to Christmas dinner out, DSD was supposed to be at her mums. Once she realised we were going out, she then wanted to come. DSS then asked to join and I somehow ended up footing the bill. The lunch literally cost me hundreds of pounds and then I was left shortly after to go home with my boys, as they were going back to ex number 2, to spend time with the little one. They took the presents and opened them there. I'd been so poorly not too long before and had really tried to have a special Christmas, but arrived home feeling really upset to be honest. It's my birthday coming up and I've made plans with friends, DP is coming and then insisted we invite his children, and the expectation is for me to book everyone's tickets and pay. He's also said he wants to go out for dinner again this Christmas and the kids want to come, no offer to help towards the cost.
I feel so overlooked and to be honest, I'm starting to feel really used. We've lived together three years and not spent a Christmas Day together but I'm good enough to pay for everything and make sure everyone is happy. I don't like how my children are left out either, they are really respectful towards DP and his children and although he's good with them, I feel it's obvious we will never be seen as family. I've made the decision to end things, as I can't go on being treated like this. I feel a lot of guilt though, as my children have never seen me with anyone else, except this partner and their dad. I feel like I've let them down by not wanting to stay and be treated this way. I also feel bad on wanting to ask him to leave so close to Christmas but can't stand another Christmas like last year. Do you think I should stick it out till after Christmas, or ask him to leave now? I'm really upset and unsure.
Thank you x

I managed it.
Leave now. You’re being treated like a mug. Have the Christmas that you and your children want and deserve.

ACatNamedRobin · 19/11/2025 09:56

Absolutely leave now.
Stop spending a penny on any of them TODAY.

Lennonjingles · 19/11/2025 10:02

Let your DP arrange and pay for Christmas lunch, don’t include them in your birthday outing. It’s all a bit confusing, personally I don’t think I could cope with it all and would just do Christmas with your own DC. The exes and DSC are taking over your life and it shouldn’t be this complicated.

Iocanepowder · 19/11/2025 10:07

Just end it now. No need to feel guilty just because it’s christmas. Your feelings matter as well. He has made some poor decisions which has got him to where he is now.

Ringaroundtherosies · 19/11/2025 10:09

I own my home outright luckily. Thank you all for your input.

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VickyEadieofThigh · 19/11/2025 10:12

Your (soon to be ex, I hope) DP and his children are using you horribly.

Take control, end it now - for your children's and your own sakes.

WhyArePiratesCalledPiratessss · 19/11/2025 10:20

They have to go!
Christmas with your children, in your home feeling loved and valued is the goal. Sack the useless users off.
Wishing you a merry Xmas and a fabulous 2026!

Theseventhmagpie · 19/11/2025 10:30

KidsDoBetter · 19/11/2025 09:40

Can you do a summary? Really hard to read with no paragraphs.

OP is pouring her heart out and this is your comment???

JudgeBread · 19/11/2025 10:32

You'd be letting them down if you stayed. No child deserves to see their mum being taken for a mug by a selfish prick and his family.

JudgeBread · 19/11/2025 10:33

KidsDoBetter · 19/11/2025 09:40

Can you do a summary? Really hard to read with no paragraphs.

If you struggle with reading maybe a thread where someone is struggling and pouring their heart out isn't the place to air that.

Noshadelamp · 19/11/2025 10:38

I started typing that even if you don't end it now until after Christmas, that you should tell him you're not organising and paying for the meal for everyone.

Bur then I thought that honestly at this point you're better to just get rid.

It sounds so exhausting for you 💐

Noshadelamp · 19/11/2025 10:39

KidsDoBetter · 19/11/2025 09:40

Can you do a summary? Really hard to read with no paragraphs.

Don't be ridiculous. That's a you problem, everyone else who has replied has managed. No need to be so rude.

Tiswa · 19/11/2025 10:57

Your partner is the issue I think - get rid of him stop thinking your sons need someone around they don’t

Retro12 · 19/11/2025 11:03

Ringaroundtherosies · 19/11/2025 09:38

I've been with my partner for five years. He has three children, two older ones (DSS 24 & DSD 22) both by his ex wife, who he met when he was 18 and she was 24. They married when he was 20, after she stated she was getting older and wanted to have children. Then came along DSS, then she wanted another baby soon after, and so DSD came along quickly after. He went into a trade his ex wife wanted him to go into, as her brother was established and he made a decent living from it. A few years on, the pressure from her controlling behaviour and his inability to keep up with her demands, apparently led to her having an affair with her boss and leaving him in a lot of debt.
He met his youngest daughters mum (currently 10) two years post divorce. He said she was like a breath of fresh air and within 18 months, they were pregnant. They were both similar in the sense that they're both very laidback and passive. She is a heavy pot smoker, saying it's for a bad back and doesn't like taking prescription medication. The problem is, she has ongoing depression and has now been diagnosed with PMDD, so can be very difficult to deal with sometimes. This worsening after their daughter was born. They eventually broke up when DD was three and we met a couple of years later.
I have two DS aged 12 and 18. My ex partner was also very controlling, and so we had things in common when we met and much we could relate to. I drew upon this experience and used a gentle approach, when getting to know one another, aware of how triggering it can be to form a new relationship, when experiencing such a conflicted one previously. I met his older children around 9 months in, him meeting mine a year in. His son is very much like his dad; he's very laid back, has a funny sense of humour and is also very kind. His daughter is also very laid back, but can and has caused some trouble for us, going back telling her mum personal details that then get blown up and fed back to ex number two. Their mum has never taken the time to get to know me, I am six years younger than my partner and she calls me 'the child bride', despite us not being married. Ex number 2 has harassed me basically, sent me messages, rang me, has never let me meet their child and refuses contact if partner suggests it, has tried to sleep with him and made advances multiple times. It's been tough.
After two years, we moved in together and that's when things really ramped up. Ex no 2 demands he sleeps there on Christmas Eve, he takes his older two and they have Christmas Eve with their sibling. The first year or so, I was ok with this. I now see that myself and my children are just purposely excluded. I do everything for Christmas, as I seem to have become the carer for everyone. A role I'd slipped into before I'd noticed to be honest. I always ensure the kids are treated equally and that I don't overwhelm anyone. DSD has ADHD and can be irritable and quite demanding, so I approach with caution. DSS is away completing a masters and my eldest son is now at uni. DSD is over a lot and really just abuses the house to the fullest, will dye her hair and leave it all over the bath, leaves every cup, plate, bowl in the sink. Leave dirty clothes all over the room and bathroom. I get home before DP and am met with a bombsite. She continuously says how her ex step mum was rubbish with her, but then goes and tells her things about our relationship. DP gets calls about personal conversations we have had that she's fed back. I buy the shopping and when she stays over, which is quite often because her mums husband doesn't want her there, I can go through and extra £60-£70 p/w on shopping and toiletries easy.
Last year I'd been ill with pneumonia a few months before and thought I'd treat myself, DP and kids to Christmas dinner out, DSD was supposed to be at her mums. Once she realised we were going out, she then wanted to come. DSS then asked to join and I somehow ended up footing the bill. The lunch literally cost me hundreds of pounds and then I was left shortly after to go home with my boys, as they were going back to ex number 2, to spend time with the little one. They took the presents and opened them there. I'd been so poorly not too long before and had really tried to have a special Christmas, but arrived home feeling really upset to be honest. It's my birthday coming up and I've made plans with friends, DP is coming and then insisted we invite his children, and the expectation is for me to book everyone's tickets and pay. He's also said he wants to go out for dinner again this Christmas and the kids want to come, no offer to help towards the cost.
I feel so overlooked and to be honest, I'm starting to feel really used. We've lived together three years and not spent a Christmas Day together but I'm good enough to pay for everything and make sure everyone is happy. I don't like how my children are left out either, they are really respectful towards DP and his children and although he's good with them, I feel it's obvious we will never be seen as family. I've made the decision to end things, as I can't go on being treated like this. I feel a lot of guilt though, as my children have never seen me with anyone else, except this partner and their dad. I feel like I've let them down by not wanting to stay and be treated this way. I also feel bad on wanting to ask him to leave so close to Christmas but can't stand another Christmas like last year. Do you think I should stick it out till after Christmas, or ask him to leave now? I'm really upset and unsure.
Thank you x

He sounds like he is using you I'm afraid. He also seems like he likes to blame everyone else for his own shortcomings!

If you want to hang about until after Christmas, make it clear and say, I have no problem with your kids coming this year, but you book the restaurant and it's your turn to pay! watch how fast the plans change!

Ringaroundtherosies · 19/11/2025 11:10

Thanks everyone. I will speak to him this evening when he gets home. It's probably best to pull the plaster off now, as opposed to letting it linger any longer. For context, I was single for 4 years before I met him. It's not a case of me feeling my boys need someone around (they do still have some contact with their dad), it's a case of having a man in their lives who I will now be asking to leave. Apologies for not offering that information sooner.

Really appreciate you all taking the time to read through my verbal diarrhoea.

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thepariscrimefiles · 19/11/2025 11:37

Your husband and his kids are all exploiting your generosity and kind nature. He is leeching off your financially by refusing to contribute to the expensive Christmas dinner that you paid for last year and by expecting you to book and pay for it all this year.

You are obviously a capable and resourceful woman. Put yourelf and your children first and put him in the bin where he belongs.

He will use a lot of emotional blackmail when you tell him that your relationship is ending because he won't want to get off the gravy train, but you need to harden your heart and not be swayed.

15coffee · 19/11/2025 11:38

In your shoes I would feel guilty that I had subjected my own dc to all this and that I hadn’t left sooner

TangoWhiskeyAlphaTango1 · 19/11/2025 11:48

Your husband and his kids - They aren't married.

OP sling him out, he is a user and they are sucking the life out of you without a care for your feelings. Time to stop being used and put the time, energy and money into your own life and children. Turf him out sooner rather than later and maybe (in the kindest way) reflect on why you have allowed yourself to be treated like this. You deserve so much more.

Ringaroundtherosies · 19/11/2025 11:56

Thanks again. I'm a nurse in the NHS, so am just used to running and looking after everyone I think. I've done it since I was 21.

Although he's nowhere near similar to my ex partner, he does expect a lot off me and I no longer seem to get much back. He does the ironing on a Sunday and washes the football kits. I think I can manage that.

I may treat myself and get a cleaner to give me a hand, once he's gone and all is settled. Now that's an exciting thought. I'm looking forward to actually being able to eat the snacks I purchase too.

I'm busy for the rest of the day, as I'm taking my gran out for lunch. Once more, thank you for your comments.

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Endofyear · 19/11/2025 12:57

Don't ask him to leave - tell him to leave! He has taken advantage of you for far too long.

IGJ10 · 19/11/2025 13:42

Whilst I fully agree with all the comments saying you should leave now, your DP and his family are using you and it’s not a good example of a healthy, balanced relationship for your children - I just wonder: have you told him before about how you feel used/ excluded by him and his family and have you asked him to make changes? If so, what was his response?

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