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Long Term Relationship - Seeking Insight (long post)

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quietlyunsure · 04/11/2025 02:09

My (28F) boyfriend (30M) have been together for 7 years, and we have changed in many ways since the beginning. Recently, I've been feeling unsure of many things. This may be long, but it's been building inside me for some time and there doesn't really feel like there's anyone I know that I can or want to discuss this with - partially because I know some of it might sound bad to someone who knows or cares for me personally. Maybe this will resonate more with people who have partners of a similar disposition.

I can't really describe my boyfriend as anything but 'intense'. He feels emotions strongly and is un-shy about his feelings. He has ADHD, but does not identify with it much. He is lightly medicated. Overall, I will say that he is very self aware. He is spiritual in a non-religious sense, and has a very interesting take on life that I often share. He has done many psychedelics and gained a lot of insight from them. Sometimes his self esteem is very low, and sometimes it is elevated. I think this influences many of the ways in which he interacts with the world and I. He had expressed that he is aware of his intensity and, sometimes, difficulty and has always expressed love and gratitude for my part in the relationship. I love him very much and do not think I could find another person like him.

And yet, I feel a building resentment. More and more recently I resent the way he talks to me. He is prone to stress, and snapping. His tone is often more... unkind than it needs to be. In my mind, I have felt the last few years to be difficult for us but discussion reveals he doesn't feel the same. We've fought, but he doesn't see them as fights. Often it feels like every other sentence out of my mouth makes him annoyed or irritated based on his tone and reaction. There are some anger issues, something carried over from childhood. His dad was kind of crazy and had insane anger issues. This too he is aware of. Explosions of anger or annoyance have made me feel as though I am walking on eggshells, but he is insistent there is no reason for me to do this and that I just don't express myself clearly. Well, I don't express myself clearly because I am worried that what I have to say will set him off. But when I express this sentiment, he is upset with my implication that he's an asshole (his words, not mine - never once have I called him this) who needs people to tiptoe around him. It's exhausting, sometimes. Most of the time, I just end up feeling crazy for the thing I was upset by anyway, and a lot of the time feel genuinely annoyed with myself for being so sensitive. Over the years we've had arguments that go this way - with me feeling insane for my emotions and apologizing. Then, he apologizes and shoulders the blame for blowing up or saying hurtful things, that even as he's saying them I know he doesn't mean. Maybe it's my fault for starting it... I don't know anymore.

He gets incredibly mad with himself for mistakes he makes or perceives himself to make. He has hurt himself in the past out of anger - hitting himself, etc. It always scares me and he knows that. In those moments I know he's not actually mad with me, but he is liable to verbally lash out at me in his self-hatred. Always he'll apologize, but it will happen again. He would never hurt me physically, this I know for sure.

I don't feel as confident as I used to. I don't know how much of it is to do with myself and my people-pleasing, my fear or what ever, and how much of it stems from feeling like I'm under a microscope when he's around. He's quite critical of himself and others. I understand that it comes from a place of love for others and wanting to see them at their fully realized self - but it feels more like a fear of judgement or something to me. I dread making a mistake, be it at home with something I do or say or in public. It can be as small as doing something he would have done differently himself, or an interaction with a person that he feels I didn't do right or whatever. His mood changes in an instant and I can immediately tell he's annoyed. My heart always drops when I see him making a face. He'll go right back to being okay, and the emotional whiplash is insane. I can handle criticism, but it's made me second guess everything and I feel kind of... suppressed, I guess. I just feel he has no patience for me, when I have to have boundless patience for him. He gets very excited, agitated or animated yet when I do the same I'm bringing too much emotion to it and stressing him out. The past few weeks have been repeated accusations of this. I understand he's been stressed and excited with work and balancing several things at once, but I feel it's being taken out on me to some degree. Many of the things I say are triggering, or shot down, and I feel like a hysterical person. Sometimes I feel I can only partially relax at home. Most of this has been communicated between us at one point or another, and I accept the parts my actions play in our dynamic and conversations.

He has a strong personality, though I don't think he would agree as tries not to identify with such an idea. Sometimes I feel my own personality is subsumed in his, though to be completely honest this is partly my fault for not asserting myself. He knows I'm a people-pleaser and wants better for me, though ultimately it's up to me to do. I feel I do a lot of appeasing. He can tell and it annoyed by it as he wants me to be truthful - but sometimes when I am truthful, he is upset by what I want, or that we weren't in alignment with each other. I feel I don't know how to navigate this.

In a vacuum none of this sounds great, I'm aware. If I was here only to wax lyrical about our love for each other, there'd be no point at all. But we have a very deep connection that has stood multiple hardships. I feel supported in anything and everything I want to do. The intensity I described before may have had a negative connotation, but it also has a very positive one. He is devoted to self improvement and betterment. We have many great times and in-jokes. His criticisms have helped me in a ways a previous entirely uncritical relationship could never have. I have no doubt he loves me. This is only my perspective on the relationship and I'm sure there's plenty he could say about me - I'm no angel and never claim to be. I don't want to break up, though I am cognizant I cannot judge our relationship objectively. I know the best way forward is communication, but there's been much of that and still I feel this way. I would really appreciate someone's insight. Thanks for reading my long post!

OP posts:
Blodyneighbour · 04/11/2025 03:01

Sounds a bit like my ex. He's gaslighting you too . Making you feel crazy for questioning certain changes you see in him. Feeling surpressed and walking on eggshells , not being able to be your true self.
My ex started to behave like this a few yrs in to the relationship and I found out he was cheating. He was also mentally and physically abusive.
If you have noticed a real change then he's hiding something from you.
Stop giving him attention and observe his behaviour. Also seems he's projecting.
Is he being secretive and detached from you ?

quietlyunsure · 04/11/2025 03:25

Blodyneighbour · 04/11/2025 03:01

Sounds a bit like my ex. He's gaslighting you too . Making you feel crazy for questioning certain changes you see in him. Feeling surpressed and walking on eggshells , not being able to be your true self.
My ex started to behave like this a few yrs in to the relationship and I found out he was cheating. He was also mentally and physically abusive.
If you have noticed a real change then he's hiding something from you.
Stop giving him attention and observe his behaviour. Also seems he's projecting.
Is he being secretive and detached from you ?

Edited

I'm sorry you had to experience that.
Honestly, not detached or secretive at all. We are a bit more open sexually in our relationship, so cheating isn't a concern for me.
However I do find the turnaround on me to take the blame concerning - but what I don't know what to make of it is how quickly he in turn absorbs the blame himself. As soon as it's my fault, it isn't. This is part of the emotional whiplash that tires me out so much. It's one of those things that sounds like gaslighting but ends with me being absolved and him admitting to acting out.

I think you are right about not giving attention to it though. I'm starting to realize the best way to not walk on eggshells is to just stomp on them.

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PullTheBricksDown · 04/11/2025 03:57

Go to counselling together to work on this, or break up if he won't. The deep connection is all very well but you're being trampled on now and you're young. It doesn't have to be like this but always getting worse.

Sunnyintervalsandshowers · 04/11/2025 04:08

If an outside perspective is what you want - I don't think it's normal to be in a relationship that makes you feel suppressed, or that your needs (of any kind) are worth less than his.

If you feel suppressed, how can you grow and flourish? Or is the growth you've mentioned only permitted in the directions your partner chooses, like a tree being trained to grow against a wall? It can be beautiful, it can bear fruit, but it isn't doing what its nature intended.

You are young, self-aware, clearly very kind, and think of others. There are other men out there who will enjoy doing life with you while you achieve your full potential, on your own.

Endofyear · 04/11/2025 05:14

Sorry OP but it sounds like a really unhealthy and somewhat controlling relationship to me. I wouldn't want a partner that you speaks to you in the way he does - he is critical and snappy and then denies that you have been having disagreements? That's just messing with your head. The anger issues and hitting himself would be enough for me to be running for the hills!

Being intense is one thing, being critical of you and annoyed at you is something else. It's controlling and abusive. This is not a good and healthy relationship.

AttilaTheMeerkat · 04/11/2025 05:32

What did you learn about relationships when you were growing up?.

He’s very much like his own father was with his anger issues and like he, your man is abusive. Abuse is not about communication or a perceived lack of, it’s about power and control.

He does not treat his work colleagues like this does he.

when you write psychedelics re him I presume you mean drugs.. If so they have addled his brain rather than give him insight.

You are in an abusive relationship with this man and this should now be at an end. The best way to avoid walking on eggshells is to walk away from being in such a relationship. Never assume either he would not hit you. If he thinks the current level of controlling you is not sufficient then he could easily do that.

AttilaTheMeerkat · 04/11/2025 06:07

And no to joint counselling. Abuse is not a relationship issue and it is never recommended where there is abuse of any type within the relationship.

HazelBite · 04/11/2025 06:29

When I read your post his behaviour/ character sounds very similar to my DIL who has been diagnosed with ADHD, I find her tricky to deal with (her and DS live with me and DH) I (we) find her difficult, as her attitude and behaviour are very unpredictable, and whilst I love her, I find it difficult and exhausting trying to assess whether to step back or give her support.
How does your OH deal with your friends and close family?
My DIL has alienated most friends and family which is sad.
I think the bottom line is that he is unlikely to change, whatever therapy or medication he has, are you prepared to accept this? Or have you decided after this time that it is all too much for you to continue?

BellissimoGecko · 04/11/2025 07:06

He’s done a lot of psychedelics, has he? People always say this and think it makes them enlightened or deep, but in reality it makes them tossers who are self-obsessed and often unable to regulate their emotions. They are drugs, not a gateway to enlightenment.

The behaviours you’re describing are abusive. The way he talks to you, the tone, you feeling as if you’re walking on eggshells, frightened to upset him, his criticism of you, the way he is allowed to have intense emotions but you’re not… they are all controlling, abusive and unhealthy.

your gut is telling you all these things for a reason. You will be happier without him.

bumptybum · 04/11/2025 07:39

Many people with adhd have disregard emotions. They feel visceral rage and stress when overwhelmed and fir some it’s most of the time.
this isn’t an excuse but it is an explanation of what may be going on

if this is what is going on, his system is sort of in a survival mode so he will be snappy to shut down the overload. He won’t necessarily feel there is a problem as once the overload isn’t there he feels fine.

ideally you both need to see a therapist who specialises is ADHD behavioural/autonomous nervous system issues

if he won’t then you need to consider ending the relationship. You shouldn’t be subjected to this behaviour

WellSurely · 04/11/2025 07:43

This relationship isn’t working for you, so end it. Have therapy and choose better another time.

Rainsunrainsun · 04/11/2025 07:58

I think the point someone made about your growth is vital here. You speak a lot about how he is growing and developing but you say you feel less confident so it doesn’t sound like the same for you. It again feeds into the pattern that his needs and experiences are being centred.

I would suggest personal therapy for you. It sounds like you need to get back to grips with who you are and your boundaries.Then you can figure out what it is you need and want from this relationship and work out if he is able to give it to you.

I think putting this focus on yourself before couples counselling or confrontation would be helpful (as long as you are safe). I think maybe any kind of direct confrontation with him now will just result in similar behaviours and dynamics you already have and the loops will continue.

i know it sounds a bit like victim blaming but we can’t really can’t change others. We do, however, have a lot of power to change ourselves and that will certainly create change in the relationship whether it creates new ways of relating or you making a decision to walk away.

When you do something different he will also have to do something different.

Focus on yourself!

gannett · 04/11/2025 08:11

There's a lot I could say about the details of your post, from the psychedelics to your backgrounds, but I actually feel you need advice that bypasses the nitty-gritty and simplifies the situation.

In a healthy relationship, both partners bring the best out of each other and make each other feel more free. When you're with your partner, you should feel as if you are, are are becoming, your best self.

This can change over time. Over most of the past seven years it sounds like you've been good for each other, overall. It doesn't sound like you're good for each other any more.

He has deep-seated self-esteem, childhood and anger issues that you can't fix. This is probably why he snaps at you: for seven years you probably have helped him a lot, and he can't understand why that's not happening any more. (The answer is nothing to do with you - it's because a partner can only do so much when the problems really need a therapist.)

And for all that he's brought to your life you are deeply unhappy in this relationship now. You're walking on eggshells, you're censoring yourself and you're exhausted. That alone is enough to end it - that's not a mindset you should ever have in a relationship.

Seven years ago you may have helped each other grow. But now his selfish and controlling side is coming to the fore and you are shrinking.

The relationship has run its course. This doesn't mean the seven years you've had have been worthless. But sometimes you need to acknowledge that even though you were once good for each other, you're now bad for each other. And you need to realise it's not fixable, and it won't get better.

Notsohappyfamily · 04/11/2025 11:22

I could have written this post word for word and I really really feel for you. It’s draining isn’t it? The constant questioning your own mind and I can feel my confidence just slipping out of my fingers but only in his presence. Around friends and family it feels like I’m my true outgoing self but at the same time, around him is the only time I can share that true inner soul I wouldn’t bare to anyone else. It’s an extremely conflicting headspace to be in. Sending you love.

outerspacepotato · 04/11/2025 11:38

You walk on eggshells in your home

A certain look on his face makes your heart drop.

You work hard to appease him.

If you're honest about things, he might get mad.

He's physically hurt himself.

He snaps. His tone is ink and. He's got anger issues.

You're living in a controlling and abusive home.

Individual counseling, not joint. Joint is not helpful and can be harmful when one of the people is abusive. Your relationship is toxic to you and you should leave.

Wellthatsacharlingknot · 04/11/2025 12:29

Hi op, I find your post contradictory…

“I can handle criticism, but it's made me second guess everything and I feel kind of... suppressed, I guess. I just feel he has no patience for me, when I have to have boundless patience for him.”

or

“I feel supported in anything and everything I want to do. “

or

“Sometimes I feel my own personality is subsumed in his, though to be completely honest this is partly my fault for not asserting myself. He knows I'm a people-pleaser and wants better for me, though ultimately it's up to me to do. I feel I do a lot of appeasing. He can tell and it annoyed by it as he wants me to be truthful - but sometimes when I am truthful, he is upset by what I want, or that we weren't in alignment with each other. I feel I don't know how to navigate this.”

Is the true situation that he is controlling and dominant in your relationship but gets upset when you express this? Is that a fair summary?

The clue here is that you are feeling confused about your relationship and wondering if it’s your fault for not being assertive enough but when you are assertive, he doesn’t like it!

Op I think by writing all of this, you know in your heart of hearts what you need to do! You are plenty young enough to break away and make a new start.

When I read your op dispassionately it appears to be stuffed full of his characteristics and personality without much room for you in there!

I am sure there is some good in him too, and ADHD is a factor he can’t help, but I don’t like the sound of his anger or his critical nature, nor the way he hits himself. These are red flags.

Please think very carefully about continuing a serious relationship with this man, especially if you think it may lead to marriage and children.

If you are confused; strip away all of his talk and self-analysis and all of your over-thinking, and simply look at his actions.

Does he step up for you at home on the domestic front? Is he kind? Does he cook? Would he change his plans for you if you were stuck on a train late at night with no one to meet you at the station? Does he stick to his word? Can you rely on him? How is he with money? How does he behave when you are ill?

Because all of the exhaustion you describe in your op is far from ideal, but it’s just about manageable when you only have yourself to think about. But step forward in to the future and say you have a little boy? Will your bf be highly critical of his children? Would he be able to keep his anger in check when he had worked a long day and then your baby was awake most of the night and you were both severely sleep deprived? Will he verbally lash out at a toddler who spills something? How would a child react to seeing their father angry and hitting himself? Would he be selfless enough to put a child’s needs first or would he be struggling too much with his own issues?

Op it may not be as exciting or intense, but speaking as someone who is old enough to be your mum, the ideal relationship you want to be looking for is characterised by safety, reliability, calm, kindness, it doesn’t shape shift! Someone who knows themselves without the need for psychedelics. A relationship where there’s no need for second guessing! Your future dh will ideally have healthy self esteem, be understanding and reasonable and be secure enough to put others before himself. He won’t be highly critical of others. No one is perfect but look for someone who will take accountability for their own failings and who can regulate their own emotions.

One more thing, if you do decide to leave your current dp, please make sure that you stay safe in the process. If he can’t control his anger, leaving him may put you in physical danger. Hopefully not, but be aware, get your ducks in a row first before telling him, and then leave quietly with the help and knowledge of friends and family,

Good luck op! You deserve better 💐

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