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Could this be something real after 20 years?

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Coulditbesomething · 03/11/2025 18:40

I have a friend I’ve known for 21 years. I met him at uni when I was 17 and he was 18, we’re now 38 and 39.

When I first met him, I really liked him but was painfully shy, so I never said anything. We spent time together doing classwork, chatting in the library, exchanged numbers… but nothing came of it. He soon met someone who became pregnant, and we lost contact for a while.

When he was 20, he got back in touch, he and his partner had split up. We met up, kissed, dated a little. I was still shy, and at that age I didn’t feel ready for a relationship with someone who already had a child, so I held back. Things fizzled out.

A couple of years later, we reconnected again, same story. We dated, kissed, spent time together, but neither of us expressed deep feelings, even though I was secretly crazy about him.

There were a few times when we would bump into each other on nights out and would end up back at his parents house - but we just talked, and kissed and he would drive me home in the morning. I always knew how much I liked him and I think thats why i never slept with him, i was so scared he would break my heart.

Then he met someone else, had another baby, and our contact became very occasional, always platonic. After that relationship failed he contacted me again and we had a night together - we didnt sleep together but it was a great night, i dont remember who stopped contacting but either way - it fizzled out again.

I later met someone myself and was in a 14 year relationship, and he also settled down. Over all of the years we stayed in touch via Facebook messages and texts, purely friendly, chatting about life, kids, relationships, offering advice, wishing each other well.

My marriage has recently ended (not my choice). His long-term relationship has also ended (not his choice) they were together for over 10 years and have a 1-year-old.

Since we’re both single, we’ve been talking a lot more than usual. There’s been some gentle flirting and talk of meeting up. He has three children (21, 17, and 1) with three different women. I have two children (10 and 8 with my soon to be ex husband). Our lives are complicated.

I don’t know if I’m kidding myself that something could happen after all this time. He hasn’t said he wants a relationship, but he often talks about “what could have been” and wonders what might have happened if things had gone differently.

I do like him, I’ve always liked him, but I also know we’re both coming out of major breakups and have a lot going on. I'm in no rush for anything. I'm not interested in filling a void, im not interested in being a rebound either. But I also know that there have been quite a few missed opportunities over the years and I don't want to waste another 20 years wishing I had told him how I felt.

Has anyone else been in a similar situation where a long term friendship turned into something more after years apart? Did it work out?

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Abcdno · 03/11/2025 18:44

This is the plot to One Day?

Coulditbesomething · 03/11/2025 18:47

Something so strange about you saying that @Abcdno is that he has always spoken about how thats how our relationship has been. He loves that book and anytime im in Edinburgh, it makes me think of him and that book. I've always said to him that we are like the couple in 'Where rainbows end' which is a very similar story - only with a less tragic ending!

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Newname29 · 03/11/2025 19:28

I think its worth giving it a try. Just mind your heart

Nicefreshbedding · 03/11/2025 19:34

Go for it but double up on your contraception! 🤣

Coulditbesomething · 03/11/2025 19:34

Thank you @Newname29 I'm not going to rush anything. To be honest, im still recovering from the ending of my marriage and i would like to make sure that my heart has healed from that before attempting anything else. I guess im a little worried we are each others 'go to' when there isnt anyone else around. I hope im wrong about that. I dont feel that way about him at all. We've always had so much in common and we've been there for each other over the years, losing parents, losing jobs, losing friends, losing relationships and all the good things inbetween.

I guess I was hoping people wouldn't say 'NO DONT DO IT' ha ha. x x

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Coulditbesomething · 03/11/2025 19:36

Ha ha ha ha @Nicefreshbedding that is so funny. Believe me, this did cross my mind...I am 38 but im sure im still in the window of being able to have a baby naturally and cards on the table - I don't want that. I love my children...but I don't want to add any more! x

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outerspacepotato · 03/11/2025 19:39

I think you're Ms Right Now. You've been crushing on him hard for years and he knows it and thinks you'll always be there as a backup just in case. He sees you when he's in between relationships, it doesn't sound like there was a lot of sexual chemistry from his side. He never put effort into dating you or having a relationship with you and I don't think that's changed after 21 years. Plus, there's a 1 year old that he's going to be co-parenting for a long time.

I'd leave this in the past myself.

Coulditbesomething · 03/11/2025 19:47

Oh nooooo @outerspacepotato I appreciate what you are saying and thank you for sending this message. These are the niggles in my mind...I must admit it's always been me who has stopped him from moving forward with sex...hes always tried, but i've never really had casual sex...ive always been a relationship sort of person, where as he has had a tonne of casual sex (and im not judging, I think everyone should do whatever they want as long as its consensual) and I think over the years my worry has always been that we would have sex, id want more than that...and he wouldnt be in a place to offer more.

Yes, he will be co-parenting for a long time, but I will too, not quite as long as he will to be fair.

You've given me a lot to consider. It's very early days yet so, i will see how the coming months unfold but I will be mindful of what you have said x

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cloudtreecarpet · 03/11/2025 19:55

Three children by three different women & the third is only a year old? 🤔

I would be wondering why he couldn't make it with any of the mothers tbh. Personally that would put me right off.

If you still really get on maybe consider him as a casual FWB but getting too involved sounds complicated & risky especially coming off the back of your own split.

Steering well clear might be the best option.

Damnd · 03/11/2025 20:00

Agree with @outerspacepotato I mean he knew you liked him, he was happy for casual sex, naturally, and i think men are happy to forgo sex if they are into someone but he didn't, it sounds like your gut told you that already.. I think you are the back up plan sorry to say. Besides, just out a long term relationship and has a baby, messy.

outerspacepotato · 03/11/2025 20:03

It's really good that you're very self aware and know that a casual friends with benefits would be too risky for you. Some people can't separate sex from feelings and there's no judgement there, that's how they're wired.

Do you know why his other long term relationships broke down?

Coulditbesomething · 03/11/2025 20:18

So, I do know the reasons for the other relationship breakdowns - @outerspacepotato

1st long term relationship - They were both very young and she was quite a difficult person (I say this from my own experience, because I knew her as she became friends with lots of my friends when we were at uni) she has bi-polar and it wasnt medicated for a long time, so i feel really bad for her because that must have been hard for her. She is happily married now.

2nd long term relationship - she cheated on him. He was about 3 years older than her though, so she was young when she had her baby too and i think she just missed her single, free life which is understandable. They co-parent very well, she has a long term partner who she owns a small restaurant with and over the years there has been nothing but love and respect between them. They are a really nice example of co-parenting.

3rd and most recent...so....things have been rocky for a very, very long time. He is frustrated that he pays for everything - every bill, every holiday, every home improvement, every expense - she is frustrated that he wont marry her (and if I am being honest, i think shes smart not to invest in these things if shes not married because she would have very little/if any claim to anything). They broke up around 2 years ago because she wanted children and he didnt, he had always told me (and of course I dont know for sure what he told her) but he always said he didnt want any more children.... they broke up for a few months, got back together, got engaged and had a baby not long after. Things continued to be strained and both parties by all accounts were becoming increasingly unhappy.

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Coulditbesomething · 03/11/2025 20:19

@Damnd I think messy is a good way to desribe it - and when im not wearing the rose tinted glasses - I do see that mess! x

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Bittenonce · 04/11/2025 05:43

So you’ve had a lifetime crush on this guy who - as an adult - has had 3 kids by different mothers, hasn’t been able to sustain a relationship with any of them, will be paying child support for 17 years, who sleeps around a lot. Basically he’s as stable as a 2 legged stool, can’t survive without being in a relationship, has a desperate need to father more children, and you’re in a slightly vulnerable place. Run a fucking mile.
Don’t make the biggest mistake of your life by thinking of him as the teenager you fancied long ago, look clearly at the mess he is now and the trail of destruction he’s left behind.

Samsdat · 05/11/2025 11:46

Run and cut all contact with hm. You are worth more than being the fourth choice. Besides, most mothers of toddlers won’t willingly leave a relationship or marriage in which they and the baby are being financially supported, unless something is terribly wrong. So when he says the end of that relationship is not his choice, he’s either lying or he’s an awful partner and/or parent. Or the relationship isn’t actually over.

HatAndScarf33 · 05/11/2025 12:57

The romantic in me wants this to work out for you, but my logical brain thinks that there have been multiple times when neither of your we're attached where you could have made a serious bash of things and things have repeatedly just ‘fizzled out’ - which makes me feel less optimistic.

Him initiating contact also gives me ‘back up’ vibes. Sorry, probably not the opinion you're looking for.

But by all means explore it, if for no other reason than to play out the dance one last time. But be careful with your heart (and your contraception!).

Zempy · 05/11/2025 13:00

I would run a mile from a bloke with this amount of baggage. Three by three?

JeminaTheGiantBear · 05/11/2025 13:07

Another who would be very wary about a man with a 1 year old child who complains that while with the mother he was having to pay for too much.
The only men I know whose partners left them when a child was that young were very flawed people, who behaved extremely badly in relationships. Bullying, alcohol abuse, heavy weed habit, etc. Maybe there’s something going on that you don’t know about?
Just be careful!

Coulditbesomething · 05/11/2025 13:41

I've really appreciated all of these comments. The romantic in me would really love for this to be something...but i think i need to be realistic. He has a 1 year old and he probably understands that most women our age wont really be interested in taking on that responsibility for many years to come along with navigating a co-parenting situation with a woman who probably wont want me having any involvement with her child (and I 100% understand that, It kills me that my husbands girlfriend has any involvement with my children) - and im probably a safe bet in his eyes rather than someone he really, truly wants to be with.

Its a shame really x

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Onlyinthrees · 05/11/2025 15:46

I know you say that you are more of a relationship person and that’s why you never slept together, but was there a part of you that suspected that once you’d actually slept with him, he’d lose interest? Or that if it didn’t live up to expectations, it would shatter the illusion?
Sorry, but I think if there was potential for a real relationship here, it would have happened long ago. Even if not, it’s far too complicated. I don’t think it’s worth it.

Coulditbesomething · 05/11/2025 16:50

@Onlyinthrees honestly yes. I did think that if we slept together it would be over - like maybe it was the chase, but all of this was 15 years plus ago. I was with my husband for almost 15 years so i think the last time we were in those situations i would have been about 23. I know I'm not the same person I was at 23 and over the last 15 years of our friendship, its been just that...a really consistent friendship. We've been there through good times, bad times, mundane times, we've remained a part of each others lives no matter what was going on, and i think there is something special about that.

But - his life is a bit of a dumpster fire right now and I mine isn't much better - its maybe an idea to shelve it for a while, maybe see how the dust settles over the next few years. x

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cloudtreecarpet · 05/11/2025 17:52

The thing with that book One Day is that when they had finally got it together she then tragically died.
We never find out if they actually make the distance and stay together forever... Who knows if they would have... 🤷‍♂️

Never base your own decisions on works of fiction. And your story is miles away from that anyway with all the icky baggage involved.
Just keep this man in the friend zone.

halfandhalfchipsandrice · 05/11/2025 17:56

I know of a relationship like this OP. They dated when they were teenagers. He married had children. Got divorced. He walked in to her work one day (on business) when she was early 30s and that was it. They are now in their 60s (together)

Coulditbesomething · 05/11/2025 18:17

Firstly - love your name @halfandhalfchipsandrice i know what I will be ordering this Friday night haha.

That's a really lovely story - his life seems so complicated and messy right but my life is no picnic either. I married someone I loved and thought he loved me and i would have stayed with him for the rest of my life - but he cheated and left me for her, and ive been pretty broken since then and - my friend has helped me put a lot of those pieces back together. I know his past is a shambals, and some of his present is also a shambals but for years and years, he has been the most stable, honest and constant person in my life.

I'm not going to force anything. I'm not going to rush anything, im not even going to tell him how I feel or have felt - im just going to let things run and see what - if anything happens.

I know i might get my heart broken - but my heart was already broken by the person who is supposed to love me the most, in a very cruel and cold way. So i guess getting into a relationship with anyone is a risk either way.

Thank you for this message, its helped me see things another way too x

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Mewling · 05/11/2025 18:31

Seems odd that he’s always the victim in these relationships: it’s never seemingly his fault that they end. I would be suspicious of that.

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