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Husband feels cold, detached and critical and I don't know how long I can continue like this...

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outheretrying · 03/11/2025 11:29

Hi everyone,

I (39F) have been with my husband (34M) for about 11 years, and we have been married for just over 4 years. For most of that time, he was one of the most wonderful, caring people I’d ever met. Thoughtful, affectionate, supportive, and genuinely my best friend. We had an equal and loving relationship, where I felt completely safe and respected.

Since our son was born in 2022, a lot has shifted. After a traumatic birth, I developed postpartum anxiety and depression and went straight into therapy, which I arranged and paid for myself because I wanted to heal and be the best mum I could. I did that despite feeling like a bit of a burden, as my husband, then a CEO with a demanding job, was excited to be a dad but became detached when things got hard.

Then came a string of enormous stresses: his sister died of cancer, he left his job after a conflict and had a legal battle to recover the shares he was owed, and then he started a new business from scratch. I’ve supported him through all of it while running my own business, doing most of the parenting, and keeping our home together — and paying for most things since he left his role to start anew. I have full confidence in him, and things have really started to pick up for him, but if I'm being sincere, his going for it has ultimately been at my expense.

He’s now a much more involved dad, and our son adores him, which I love seeing. But as a husband, he’s a shadow of his former self. I often feel that I don't like him very much. He spends hours scrolling on his phone, vaping endlessly or on Xbox in the evening, when in my view we could be spending time together. When he does engage, he’s often cold, critical or quick to belittle me — especially if I do something “wrong” by his standards. Or alternatively, when I've done everything 'right' (i.e. I've just done everything without complaint), he's full of the joys of spring.

Lately, he’s accused me of “not doing enough” with our son (even though I do most of the organising and daily load - it's almost LAUGHABLE he'd say this to me if he knew even a fraction of what it takes to keep our lives turning!) and, most painfully, accused me of flirting with another parent at nursery. I was just being friendly, but I was humiliated by the comment. It was designed to hurt me, and it did. He's saying "he knows what he saw," and I am honestly DUMFOUNDED by this accusation. I was being pleasant to a fellow parent while our kids played together, it doesn't go further than that.

He insists he’s fine and dismisses any suggestion of therapy, but I can see he’s just not himself and I believe he is taking it out on me.

I am an understanding person and an open book. I make my own decent money via a business I have run independently for almost 8 years, and I am a very hands-on parent. We have fun, we play and laugh, and I do everything I can to give our son the best experiences and a whole lot of love. I look after our home, our pets, and ensure we have all that we need - everything, really. I have a lot to offer in a relationship, and right now I feel like I'm being taken for granted.

I love him, but I don’t like who he’s become. I’m exhausted from carrying the emotional weight and walking on eggshells in case I do something "wrong" (in his book, not mine!), and I don’t feel emotionally safe or supported anymore. Where did my lovely husband go? What happened to our marriage? Where do I go from here?

Has anyone dealt with something similar... i.e. a partner who changed negatively after trauma and stress? How did you get them to see they needed help? And how do you know when it’s time to stop trying?

Thanks for reading.

OP posts:
Subwaystop · 03/11/2025 11:33

This is a very mumsnet response, but could he be having an affair? The “script” men often follow in their predictable affair arcs is the get hyper critical of their partner in order to justify cheating.

outheretrying · 03/11/2025 11:38

Subwaystop · 03/11/2025 11:33

This is a very mumsnet response, but could he be having an affair? The “script” men often follow in their predictable affair arcs is the get hyper critical of their partner in order to justify cheating.

I highly doubt it. We both work from home, and I've not noticed anything suspicious in his behaviour other than him thinking he's the ultimate boss. I'd be very, very surprised.

OP posts:
UpDownAllAround1 · 03/11/2025 11:45

Has his parents or siblings mentioned any changes in him? He sounds depressed

Subwaystop · 03/11/2025 11:45

To me, his behavior seems completely brutal, abusive and absolutely unlivable. I wouldn’t want to raise a child around someone who is repeatedly so unkind.

To give him massively the benefit of the doubt, he’s in a funk and taking it out on you, and he needs to stop, or else. Have you tried marriage counseling? Does he have any desire to try to get his act together?

Seems he takes you for granted and thinks he can walk all over you and keep reaping all the benefits of the marriage. He needs to know you won’t stand for being treated this way.

Gottocopebymyself · 03/11/2025 12:08

Subwaystop · 03/11/2025 11:33

This is a very mumsnet response, but could he be having an affair? The “script” men often follow in their predictable affair arcs is the get hyper critical of their partner in order to justify cheating.

Well it certainly reads like The Script OP. Even down to the accusing you of cheating.
At the very least it sounds as though he has checked out of your relationship.
I really think it's ultimatum time. He needs to seek medical help for his mental health or have counselling. And if he won't then I think you should have a temporary separation.

outheretrying · 03/11/2025 12:18

UpDownAllAround1 · 03/11/2025 11:45

Has his parents or siblings mentioned any changes in him? He sounds depressed

They're hardly the best judges of character - his parents' relationship, to be absolutely blunt, is a joke. There aren't enough characters here for me to get into it, but let's say that their marriage is my worst nightmare, and I feel like I am starting to put the pieces of the puzzle together with our own, based on the example they have clearly set for my OH.

Fortunately, we don't see much of them as they live an hour or so away, and he's the absolute golden child, so I doubt anything would be said regardless.

OP posts:
RosiePosie007 · 03/11/2025 12:41

I’ve noticed lots of men often respond to having been supported with contempt. It sounds like he’s checked out, and once that happens they very rarely reconnect.

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outheretrying · 03/11/2025 13:28

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Thank you so much for your considered response. I totally agree with you, and I wouldn't have written my post if I didn't believe that this behaviour is being caused by something rather than being a reflection of who he is. Something is at play, and the grabs for power/making me feel stupid certainly chime with what you've said.

The nastiness this week has incidentally coincided with my best month ever in terms of business performance, so I honestly do think he's jealous, to a degree. He was all "well done, babe" etc. etc. with lots of lovely things said, but then this accusing me of flirting and not doing enough followed a day later... so y'know.

We've spoken about him doing therapy in the past, even before the whole work scenario and the death of his sister. He did some grief counselling and said it wasn't good, and that was that. The moment someone brings up his childhood/family, walls come up, and he closes off. Needless to say, if I'm ever to criticise them (I don't even waste my breath now), it does not go down well; meanwhile, he's more than happy to wax lyrical about the shortcomings of my (very normal, thank you very much) family, who are the only ones who help us with childcare.

He says he doesn't need therapy and is fine; however, I don't think he's fully acknowledging the hard shell he has developed and what that is doing to our relationship.

His parents have a lot to answer for, and I don't think he has ever seen a healthy relationship before ours. I never used to think he was anything like either of them, but I can now see the similarities, and it is pretty worrying to me. I have done therapy myself and really invested the time and money into working on myself and undoing lots of generational and childhood trauma, so it's INCREDIBLY frustrating to be living with someone with clear issues who isn't addressing them.

I have a friend I can talk to about this and I'd love to be able to talk to my Mum about it, but I fear right now it's too fraught and I don't want the judgement, hence, Mumsnet!

OP posts:
Lyla82 · 03/11/2025 13:55

Hey OP, I'm sorry I have no advice but I just wanted to say I've been going through the same thing for a long while now and understand how hard it is. A series of traumatic events plus the birth of our DC has turned my wonderful partner into a completely different person. He has been diagnosed with depression and is moody, angry and takes everything personally. I'm a happy, upbeat person but I can do no right in his eyes now and it's heartbreaking watching him ruin what was once so wonderful. I am following this thread as I would love some advice too as our relationship is hanging by a thread.
Sending hugs xx

outheretrying · 03/11/2025 14:15

Lyla82 · 03/11/2025 13:55

Hey OP, I'm sorry I have no advice but I just wanted to say I've been going through the same thing for a long while now and understand how hard it is. A series of traumatic events plus the birth of our DC has turned my wonderful partner into a completely different person. He has been diagnosed with depression and is moody, angry and takes everything personally. I'm a happy, upbeat person but I can do no right in his eyes now and it's heartbreaking watching him ruin what was once so wonderful. I am following this thread as I would love some advice too as our relationship is hanging by a thread.
Sending hugs xx

I'm so sorry you've been going through similar. It truly knocks the wind out of your sails. I hope things are improving somewhat with there now being a diagnosis? I would like to think that would cement that there's a clear need for change.

Since the accusations of me flirting on the weekend (laughable, honestly!), we've been sniping at each other, and I've slept in the spare room. I don't really know where we go from here, but I am not going to appease him by brushing this off because I can't unhear these things. My only thought is that I'm going to actually write him a letter, because he's very good at spinning stuff into something else in a heated debate and tying me up in knots, and I'm emotional enough as it is right now.

Hope you get out of this awful situation, one way or another. It's a very sad experience. Sending you light x

OP posts:
dataretentionheadache · 03/11/2025 14:38

outheretrying · 03/11/2025 13:28

Thank you so much for your considered response. I totally agree with you, and I wouldn't have written my post if I didn't believe that this behaviour is being caused by something rather than being a reflection of who he is. Something is at play, and the grabs for power/making me feel stupid certainly chime with what you've said.

The nastiness this week has incidentally coincided with my best month ever in terms of business performance, so I honestly do think he's jealous, to a degree. He was all "well done, babe" etc. etc. with lots of lovely things said, but then this accusing me of flirting and not doing enough followed a day later... so y'know.

We've spoken about him doing therapy in the past, even before the whole work scenario and the death of his sister. He did some grief counselling and said it wasn't good, and that was that. The moment someone brings up his childhood/family, walls come up, and he closes off. Needless to say, if I'm ever to criticise them (I don't even waste my breath now), it does not go down well; meanwhile, he's more than happy to wax lyrical about the shortcomings of my (very normal, thank you very much) family, who are the only ones who help us with childcare.

He says he doesn't need therapy and is fine; however, I don't think he's fully acknowledging the hard shell he has developed and what that is doing to our relationship.

His parents have a lot to answer for, and I don't think he has ever seen a healthy relationship before ours. I never used to think he was anything like either of them, but I can now see the similarities, and it is pretty worrying to me. I have done therapy myself and really invested the time and money into working on myself and undoing lots of generational and childhood trauma, so it's INCREDIBLY frustrating to be living with someone with clear issues who isn't addressing them.

I have a friend I can talk to about this and I'd love to be able to talk to my Mum about it, but I fear right now it's too fraught and I don't want the judgement, hence, Mumsnet!

I think this an emotional intelligence thing - its like saying and reacting to things in a way or a delayed way which makes no sense to the receiver and the giver of the nastiness is just totally unaware of what they are doing. My partner wasn't nasty (could be snippy) but he mainly just lent on me every day to tell me how terrible his life was and he would also react in outrageous ways to little things I said as if I said he was a serial killer or his children were ugly when all I might of said was - I took the bin out this morning (when he should have done it last night) maybe its flight or fight but totally and utterly misplaced.

something he could maybe consider is email therapy. It can be easier to choose what to say and what not to say, writing it down can be a good way of taking stock of events and seeing what has happened and it can be sent and the email received and digested at his own pace. The reason I suggest it is if there is a topic they dont want to mention thats really easy just dont write about it, and its easier to shut down if the therapist goes there. I am currently doing email therapy and really appreciate the time to digest!

It is simply MADDENING when someone is so clearly in pain and anguish from themselves but wont help themselves - they almost need shocking into it. I wasnt experiencing the nastiness as I said but the eggshells and weight of it all was too much and I eventually said I cant do this anymore - help yourself to help us. Your behaviour is directly impacting me. It still took a while for that to be acknowledged but it did happen.

I am sorry you are going through this and totally understand why Mumsnet is easier xxx

Almostthere800 · 03/11/2025 15:32

Op and @dataretentionheadache The other thing you need to consider is that they have always been this way but have hidden it well up to now... Try reading Why does he do that by Lundy Bancroft (search for free online pdf) and watch some of Dr Ramani's youtube videos, or read her book 'It's not you'. It can be shocking to discover that someone who you thought loved you, actually resents you and any success you might have.
Also tagging @Lyla82

thepariscrimefiles · 03/11/2025 16:33

When he was CEO with a demanding job and you were dealing with post-partum anxiety and depression, he was the top dog in the family and you were the vulnerable one.

The tables have now turned and his self-esteem (obviously bigged up by his parents as the 'golden' child) has taken a hit which he is struggling to deal with and is taking it out on you. If you have a success to celebrate such as your business thriving, he has to do something to spoil it for you.

He is being very unfair and unkind and it would make me question the whole relationship.

FoggyDay58 · 03/11/2025 19:17

My husband was like this and then it turned out he was having an affair. Don't rule it out. I didn't notice because he hid it very well. Pretended to go out and do sport and instead went to see her. Went to see her on the one day of the week when I was out working and he was supposedly WFH. Saw her when I was visiting family with the children. Left the room to text her, etc. It makes me sick now to think I was so concerned about his mental health when he was criticising me all the time and refusing to talk about what was going on inside his head. Little did I know!

You definitely need to push for him to seek therapy in any case - it's a deal-breaker.

YRGAM · 03/11/2025 19:25

Sounds like depression to me

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