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He’s hard to read...

50 replies

Winterlove · 26/10/2025 22:55

TL;DR - have hung out with an old work colleague 4 times now but unsure if he likes me and if/how to make the next move.

I met a single guy through work last year but he left a few months ago to start a new job. We always got on and I found him attractive so I gave him my number to keep in touch.

We first socialised out of work after he left as a group for drinks. We spoke a fair bit 121 that night. He’s not on social media but text me occasionally the following month or two.

We share an outdoorsy hobby and have met up a couple of times alone for this reason and enjoyed each others company. He has also been to my house twice for dinner, once for his birthday last week.

He’s quite a shy, private person so I don’t know how to read him and I can’t bear to ask him directly. How can I be more discreet in figuring out if he’s attracted to me too? I’m seeing him again next weekend.

OP posts:
tragichero · 28/10/2025 00:57

So (apologies for the long story - there is a point to it I hope!) the guy I am seeing currently - we met once, years ago, when I was on a break with my ex, and hit it off (socially only, didn't kiss or anything) but I got back with my ex shortly after, so we just became vague friends on social media for years. When I became single again about a year ago we started messaging regularly - sending really long, detailed messages about anything and everything in our lives almost daily.

I thought it was pretty obvious I was attracted, and had reason to believe he was too simply from the messaging length and frequency, but nothing was said by either of us, no actual flirting.

Eventually we arranged a date for him to come down to see me (he lives a few hours away). We were having a lovely evening chatting at the pub but there was again no real flirting, no physical contact. I kept thinking, is this a date or just friends?

Then he made a throw away comment about finding me attractive when we first met, and I decided to seize the day and took his hand when we walked back from the pub. And he didn't pull away, he sort of stroked my hand with his thumb (God, it sounds like I am about 12!) so when we got back to my flat, I kissed him as soon as he got through the door. And that was that!

But he later told me that, despite really fancying me, he would NEVER have had the nerve to make the first move if I hadn't, and that he had been convinced I wasn't attracted to him. (And the man is beautiful. I could eat him alive - I honestly thought I was staring at him when we were at the pub. But he is just so modest, he has no idea how lovely he is).

Maybe your guy is like this, OP? And maybe like me, you don't give off fancying vibes, even when you are attracted? (It's not the first time a guy has told me he was staggered when I made a move, as he was convinced I didn't like him in this way. I think I nust have an innocent face!)

I wonder if you could hold your guy's hand? Or sit near him on the sofa when watching a film and let your arm brush against his? Or go for a hug some time when he is leaving, and put your face up so he can kiss you if he wants?.

I know it's difficult and scary, but it does sound to me like you MAY have to make the first move with this one (I could be totally wrong, of course).

But the plus side to that is, he clearly respects the Hell out of you so he doesn't want to rush things or do anything to risk upsetting you or losing the friendship. Maybe even likes you so much he thinks you are too good for him and he doesn't stand a chance.

And actually, I don't know if it's because I am getting old, but that level of respectfulness from a guy sounds sexy as Hell from where I am standing, in these days of fake profiles, dick picks, ghosting and all the other unsexy crap many men like to throw at us.....

Good luck. I really hope I am right, and that it works out for you both - it all sounds really quite romantic!

ozarina · 28/10/2025 01:33

He sounds a bit blown by the wind - whatever happens he goes along with... almost a bit lazy.

DaffodilDaisyRose · 28/10/2025 04:40

I think it’s hard to know. There are many success stories with taking the first move including the PP who took charge from the date at the pub. In my case, my story is unsuccessful.

It was when I was first stepping into the dating world (late bloomer), I was early 20s when I worked at a big store. Whenever this guy of similar age and I had a shift together we got along very well. We would talk comfortably and laugh, he would look and gaze at me, catch my eye, seek me out to say hi when we were not at the same station. We were both single so a few weeks later I got up the nerve to ask him out to the movies. He mumbled his answer (no) and looked really shocked. I felt so embarrassed. Obviously after that I felt awkward and was happy not to have shifts together if I could help it. All I know is months later he tried to chat to me at the Xmas party and I brushed him off. By then I had found a guy that did like my attention. But I still cringe how I read all the signals wrong 😑

notaweddingdress · 28/10/2025 06:25

Winterlove · 27/10/2025 21:31

@donaldson7111 you’re going to think I’m lying but I kid you not, I watched that episode of friends today! Thanks for the advice. I wonder why he’s scared to make the move.

And thanks for the others too for the comments about enjoying the moment and getting to know each other. I’ve enjoyed the time spent with no pressure. It’s been so refreshing and I’m feeling that spark building between us.

Maybe he’s scared to make the first move for the same reason you are?

MumoftwoNC · 28/10/2025 06:42

FajitaNightCap · 26/10/2025 23:18

So say ‘What’s going on here, Nigel? I’m looking fur a relationship, not someone to watch tv with.’

I'd do this, leaves no room for misunderstanding.

Personally I'd be way less embarrassed to be rejected as part of a breezy phone conversation, than go in for a kiss and be rejected by him ducking away.

I'd also much rather the other person addressed me that way too, rather than having someone dive for me unexpectedly

LupaMoonhowl · 28/10/2025 06:43

FajitaNightCap · 26/10/2025 22:59

Just ask him. Life’s too short for all this wordless ambiguity.

This.

MumoftwoNC · 28/10/2025 06:44

Don't know if you're a Strike fan but there's a bit in book 5 or 6 where Strike leans in for a kiss unexpectedly and Robin ducks away even though she likes him. I've been known to do that exact thing before. Hate being unexpectedly dived at.

Your man could be the same.

SalmonOnFinnCrisp · 28/10/2025 06:50

I'm on the fence about this.
On one hand he might be shy and isnt love grand?
On the other he doesnt sound like hea putting much effort in.

He has also been to my house twice for dinner, once for his birthday last week.

And he is coming to yours and you are cooking?

When he is he cooking for you?

As lame and unfeminist as itcsounds I've concluded men value relationships where they have to work/ pursue / impress the woman. Anytime I've done all the legwork (as per your description here) it's ended poorly for me.

I agree with this too...
What’s going on here, Nigel? I’m looking fur a relationship, not someone to watch tv with.’

Winterlove · 28/10/2025 08:19

@tragichero I used to be the same - I’d never make a move no matter what but now I’m older and more confident but I’d like to be more sure about how he views things before making the move.

@ozarina he has text me twice of the four times to organise meeting up. I’d say he’s coming across more shy than lazy.

@DaffodilDaisyRose and yeah I’m mindful
and way that things could go a different way. Sounds like your guy might have changed his mind by the Christmas party but was too late by then!

@notaweddingdress yeah this could be it.

@SalmonOnFinnCrisp one of the the days we went out to do our hobby he brought lunch for us, the second time we each took our own lunch. Then he came for dinner to mine. The second time for dinner he offered to cook at his but he was working late that night and I was off work for a few days so I’d suggested to just come to mine instead. He did bring a beautiful homemade dessert that he’d prepared the night before. Id say it feels pretty equal given the way it’s worked out.

I think overall I’m not brave enough to ask him outright in person. When I next see him I’ll try being closer to him with contact and if I can find a way to initiate a kiss.

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Gymbunny2025 · 28/10/2025 08:26

Ok… a straight man does not ‘bring dessert’ unless he’s falling for you. I refuse to be told otherwise 😂

FajitaNightCap · 28/10/2025 08:39

Gymbunny2025 · 28/10/2025 08:26

Ok… a straight man does not ‘bring dessert’ unless he’s falling for you. I refuse to be told otherwise 😂

A straight male friend of mine used to bring me dishes he’d made, so I don’t think on its own it’s necessarily any indication of sexual interest.

Didimum · 28/10/2025 08:42

I get it takes some courage to speak up, OP, but come on. Sounds a bit silly now.

‘Loosing him as a friend’ is surely a moot point. Why would you continue this situationship unless it move on? You can’t just be friends with someone you want to date.

donaldson7111 · 28/10/2025 08:59

notaweddingdress · 28/10/2025 06:25

Maybe he’s scared to make the first move for the same reason you are?

i wasn’t scared. I was unsure as she had a boyfriend. Doesn’t seem the op has done anything but show him she is interested

Winterlove · 28/10/2025 09:04

Yeah I’m not sure the dessert thing has any indication on sexuality. I have a few straight male friends who can cook.

I suppose this started off as a friendship but in the time we’ve spent together the attraction has built (for me anyway) and now I need to act on it if I want to see where it leads.

I’ll just need to find the moment when I next see him.

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Winterlove · 05/11/2025 10:44

Just an update to say things went well and have moved beyond being just friends.

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Daffodilalilypotter · 05/11/2025 10:51

It's better to get ro know eachother first as friends anyway. Maybe he's not sure if you like him. Maybe he's scared of looking like a predator-seems to be the thing that young guys worry about these days.
Or when you hug goodbye give him a quick peck on the cheek. That can be a friends or relationship thing so you're covered either way!

noidea69 · 05/11/2025 10:54

Winterlove · 26/10/2025 23:06

He’s coming for food and to watch the next episode of a show we saw together last week.

Are we dating though? 4 meet ups and no kiss so far.

At the moment you are just friends, but he must like you to want to spend time with you like this. Maybe romantically, maybe not, and either way is fine.

At end of night just give him a kiss good bye.

Winterlove · 05/11/2025 10:56

We’ve since shared many kisses and moments of affection since the last update so things have definitely moved past the friend stage now. Thanks all for your advice and opinions.

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noidea69 · 05/11/2025 10:58

Winterlove · 05/11/2025 10:56

We’ve since shared many kisses and moments of affection since the last update so things have definitely moved past the friend stage now. Thanks all for your advice and opinions.

Come on, give us the details lol

Glad to hear all going well and has progressed.

Winterlove · 05/11/2025 11:00

We met up another twice since I’d last written. We watched a movie together and he cuddled up to me to watch it then I kissed him and it’s been reciprocated since. We have another couple of things planned for the coming weeks too. Seems to be going well.

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Tillow4ever · 05/11/2025 11:37

Really pleased to hear things are going well for you - long may it continue!

Gymbunny2025 · 05/11/2025 11:38

Yay. Knew it! The dessert made it obvious 😂. So happy for you both

OhRight7 · 05/11/2025 11:50

I’ve only just come across your thread and I’m so happy to see the updates. How lovely 💕
Enjoy these cute early days of getting to explore a new connection

UpDownAllAround1 · 05/11/2025 12:27

Try alcohol

therewasafishinthepercolator · 05/11/2025 20:25

Aah, that's brilliant. Happy for you both.

Flipping love that early stage of a relationship.

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