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Need advice on Social Services and abusive ex

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Annalou1202 · 26/10/2025 22:14

Hello all,

I need some guidance please. Early June, I was the victim of a domestic incident. The police were called and social services got involved. I have since been moved into a refuge and it is my understanding that my ex partner is about to start a course.

What I need advice on, is that I would like to move back to the county I was removed from but I don’t know how to prove to social services that it’s not to be closer to my ex. To be very clear, I have no intention on getting back together with him and I’m taking my child’s safety very seriously. My reasons for wanting to move back are that this is the area most familiar to me and before moving I had plans in place to put my baby girl in nursery and had a job lined up there. This is also an area that is a midway point between all my different family members, and where my friends are. I’ve tried to get to know this new area and have made an effort to make connections here but it’s been over 2 months now and I’m just unhappy within myself. I was wondering if anyone else has been through this and what safety measures they put in place to protect themselves from further abuse? I should also mention I’m currently doing a course in recognising and understanding DA to show that I’m expanding my knowledge and recognise my ex isn’t healthy for me.

Thank you.

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ClaraMumsnet · 27/10/2025 20:49

Hi @Annalou1202, it looks like you've given your DD's name in a few posts. Given it's quite a sensitive thread, we've removed the names from your posts to protect your privacy.

Annalou1202 · 27/10/2025 20:53

TheBlueHotel · 27/10/2025 20:45

when I arrange the meeting I will look into if this is something legal aid can accompany me with

you can't get legal aid to represent you unless/until the local authority enters pre proceedings or care proceedings. You won't need a solicitor at this stage. You just need some open conversation with the SW and the manager.

Thank you for letting me know that

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Annalou1202 · 27/10/2025 20:57

hellotojason · 27/10/2025 20:49

Unfortunately you won't get legal aid unless the local authority determine that your child needs to be considered within pre-proceedings (link here about what pre-proceedings is frg.org.uk/get-help-and-advice/what/pre-proceedings/). You could also reach out to the family rights group for advice and support - they have a helpline, it is an organisation run by parents with experience of social care and care system.

I think your approach sounds sensible, I hope the meeting with your social worker and manager is productive. You can always utilise the complaints process if you are not happy following that meeting but I think if possible working with the professionals around you, listening to their worries and potential solutions/offer of support is the best way to move forward if you can.

Thank you for your help. I will look into the family rights group. I really hope it is productive. At the end of the day if I think there reasons are valid then I will do what I need to to protect my daughter. But if there’s anyway to protect her without completely rearranging my life I would love that. You’ve given me a lot to look at and think about so thank you

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Annalou1202 · 27/10/2025 20:58

ClaraMumsnet · 27/10/2025 20:49

Hi @Annalou1202, it looks like you've given your DD's name in a few posts. Given it's quite a sensitive thread, we've removed the names from your posts to protect your privacy.

Thank you. Sorry I didn’t realise that wasn’t okay. I’m new here 😅

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Jellycatspyjamas · 27/10/2025 20:58

The only thing I can think of is that they have intelligence that he poses a much bigger threat to you than initially thought, or that you’re aware of. That might be outstanding charges or a pattern of behaviour in previous relationships.

He’s already shown he’ll happily ignore a legal order so there’s little point in trying a non-molestation order because bail conditions are equally strong, and he’s already ignored his bail order. You’re doing the right thing in engaging with your social worker and refuge staff, they both should be able to help with a local nursery place for your little one. While you can obviously live wherever you choose, I’d listen carefully to your social workers concerns about moving quickly and explore why she thinks you moving would reach the threshold to remove your child, because it wouldn’t usually - again there may be something particular about your ex that she’s worrying about that you may not be aware of. Explore with her what she’d need to see in place for her to support a move back - because when the time is right you should receive support to leave refuge and set up home. Keep doing what you’re doing - it sounds like you have a good relationship with your social worker, so just ask her outright what her worries are and what needs to be in place. If you still aren’t clear then a meeting with her manager is a good next step.

Annalou1202 · 27/10/2025 21:03

Jellycatspyjamas · 27/10/2025 20:58

The only thing I can think of is that they have intelligence that he poses a much bigger threat to you than initially thought, or that you’re aware of. That might be outstanding charges or a pattern of behaviour in previous relationships.

He’s already shown he’ll happily ignore a legal order so there’s little point in trying a non-molestation order because bail conditions are equally strong, and he’s already ignored his bail order. You’re doing the right thing in engaging with your social worker and refuge staff, they both should be able to help with a local nursery place for your little one. While you can obviously live wherever you choose, I’d listen carefully to your social workers concerns about moving quickly and explore why she thinks you moving would reach the threshold to remove your child, because it wouldn’t usually - again there may be something particular about your ex that she’s worrying about that you may not be aware of. Explore with her what she’d need to see in place for her to support a move back - because when the time is right you should receive support to leave refuge and set up home. Keep doing what you’re doing - it sounds like you have a good relationship with your social worker, so just ask her outright what her worries are and what needs to be in place. If you still aren’t clear then a meeting with her manager is a good next step.

Thank you. I absolutely will do that. I don’t want to complain if I can avoid that. She’s been really kind to me, I don’t want to get her in any type of trouble.

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Jellycatspyjamas · 27/10/2025 21:15

Sorry I just noticed you said he turned up after his bail ended, which makes me think there’s something they know about him which increases the risk to you and means a non-mol wasn’t worth the risk.

Jellycatspyjamas · 27/10/2025 21:17

Annalou1202 · 27/10/2025 21:03

Thank you. I absolutely will do that. I don’t want to complain if I can avoid that. She’s been really kind to me, I don’t want to get her in any type of trouble.

Complaining won’t get her into trouble, you have the right for your case to be reviewed but I honestly think it’s early days for that. Try to think about the timescale you have in mind for moving - for example 6 months down the line is very different to 2 months - and talk it through with her.

Annalou1202 · 27/10/2025 21:24

Jellycatspyjamas · 27/10/2025 21:17

Complaining won’t get her into trouble, you have the right for your case to be reviewed but I honestly think it’s early days for that. Try to think about the timescale you have in mind for moving - for example 6 months down the line is very different to 2 months - and talk it through with her.

Yes I agree. And I have done that already so I’m glad you agree! In my plan I’ve noted that I’m aware post seperation abuse is at it’s highest risk for several months. And that by our review meeting in January will mark almost 6 months so I would like my plan to be reviewed then. I’ve also put that I would like to be back in the county within the first half of 2026. Hopefully they will see I’m trying to work with them

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TheBlueHotel · 28/10/2025 12:15

Jellycatspyjamas · 27/10/2025 21:15

Sorry I just noticed you said he turned up after his bail ended, which makes me think there’s something they know about him which increases the risk to you and means a non-mol wasn’t worth the risk.

This isn't how social workers work - or not how they should work. If there is more information that OP needs they should be seeking disclosure from the police, not being opaque and making hints and threats.

London22 · 28/10/2025 14:36

To the OP this was me.

*bit of long read.

I was advised that should we move back to our area or the next boroughs over, they had serious concerns. It's part of the cause. However we were not dealing with a remorseful person.

We've moved far from family and friends and all that we knew. It hasn't been easy, but I wouldn't change it for the world. We travel to see family and have days out, but at the end of the day- we get to live our daily lives in peace and most important of all safety.

I still struggle with the move and drastic change in my life, but deep down every time I read about another women who has sadly lost her life, I thank God that I'm still alive.

My ex did not care about non molestation orders, bail or even the paltry jail time for breaching non molestation orders. The moment they expired, he would come right back outside our former home.

My children were on a child protection plan and yet I wasn't dealing with violence and he didn't live with us. However CPP is one step before a potential removal. They're not done lightly.

Living in a refuge is hard- however that old life wasn't a life and you know it deep down. Yes, you had a home and a job offer, but you was also dealing with abuse. I know that feeling of wanting to be amongst familiarity, but chaos is also part of that.

Even if you're near family and friends, they're not directly at risk, you and your child are. I don't go back anywhere near my old area to visit family, as I know my ex still lives there and I can't take the risk nor the constant stress of being on guard.

Social services have a right to be concerned because unfortunately part of the dynamics of abusive relationships, is the need to "just be normal again." Patterns don't lie.

It doesn't matter how the plans are written, reality is a whole different ball game and it's hard to break that mentality. It is akin to battling an addiction.

Even if you moved to the middle point that's halfway between your at risk county and your new safe county, social services have a duty of care to inform the local social services.

When I moved into a refuge, the local social services tried to get involved and I stuck fast that I wasn't moving into a refuge and still expected to deal with them. I made it very clear that we had no intention of returning and for me that was the best thing, as I was able to focus upon our new lives. Rather than dealing with their constant meetings, it would have made me feel constantly scrutinised and I couldn't deal with that.

Jobs, nursery places and homes can be gained again- lives can not. Peace of mind has to come first.

Start to make plans where you are with the intention to future proof your life. New job, new home interiors, friends, nursery and school places. Planning our new home is what kept me going whilst in the refuge.

In time- this will be the best move you've ever done and yes it will feel strange, but after a while you'll settle and you can travel to see friends and family.

It's not fair that women are forced to leave everything behind and start over, trying to rebuild their lives. But I prefer to start over, then be a statistic or a memory on a wall, in a photo album or in a phone.

Just give yourself a chance and make peace with what was. Focus on the now and future and remember it doesn't have to be forever. Whose to say further down the line, you couldn't move somewhere closer to family and friends.

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