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Struggling to forgive MIL

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OctopusDiscoball · 20/10/2025 19:38

This might be a bit long but I don't want to drip feed, so please bear with me. I have reached a bit of an impasse with DH regarding his mum and I'm stuck on what we can do to get past it.

When we first met she was wonderful. However, once I got pregnant she started to become more domineering and gradually started chipping away at me and criticising me. DH would speak to her after each incident and she would agree not to do it again but then it felt like the behaviour would just show up in a new form and I never knew whether I'd get the nice version of her or the difficult one.

Generally speaking, there is a lot of drama. DH is expected to call her multiple times each day and if he doesn't call, she panics and cries because he might have been in an accident. He finds it difficult that she relies on him so much emotionally. There's also a complicated family dynamic where DH is the golden child and his brother is the black sheep. Ultimately DH feels very responsible for her and worries about her outbursts/reactions if he steps out of line. I feel she is manipulative but he thinks she doesn't realise what she's doing.

There have been a few times where she has blown up and lost her temper with DH, and called him awful names. Two years ago she did this in the run up to Christmas, and he asked me to see if I could calm her down. I calmly and patiently told her that it wasn't okay to speak to him like that and that she knew that the things she was saying weren't true. She accepted it at the time and apologised but ever since then her behaviour towards me has taken a turn for the worse, as if she resents me for standing up to her. Later that week she 'forgot' that she had other plans for that Christmas and refused to come to us as planned a few days later, which made DH really sad and really spoiled the day.

As the year went by her behaviour got worse and worse and it culminated last December in her calling me stupid (in her language, which she thought I wouldn't understand) and, later, physically pushing me, something she'd done previously. At the time she was staying over at our house and I asked DH to take her home and then explained to him what had happened. He (rightly) pointed out that I should have fetched him and explained what happened immediately but spoke to her about it. The result was a torrent of abuse on the phone to him and via WhatsApp to me. In the end I had to block her. She has never apologised (to me) for what she said and she denies that she ever pushed me or said anything horrible to me, although she has said that perhaps she did, but has forgotten.

I would have been happy at this point to go NC but I know how much DH was struggling with everything so we put some boundaries in place which were basically: no more sleepovers at our house; we would see her less often but when we did see her we would go out (rather than having her at our home, for example) and she would only get one last chance.

Since then, things have been mostly okay. There was some drama around her not being invited to celebrate my birthday with us (we didn't celebrate, I had flu) which we only found out about a month later when it was her birthday and she refused to see us, but told BIL the real reason why. But overall the plan of seeing her for quality time outside has worked well. However, recently DH is upset that she isn't able to come and stay for the weekend, for example, and upset that I can't forgive her. He basically wishes that everything could go back to how it was and feels like my attitude is cold and hard. She is in her late 70s and in excellent health but he is worried that she's going to die soon (something she often says) and that their final years of memories will be marred by all of this. However, I still feel so wary of her and every time we see her I'm on edge and anxious. For context, she lives 30 minutes away so not too far, but she would be insulted if we only invited her for e.g. lunch and not to sleep over.

I have suggested she comes and stays overnight for Christmas this year but apparently she has already told him she doesn't want to "cause trouble" by seeing us and so doesn't want to celebrate Christmas at all.

I just don't know what to do next. I feel like we've tried to find a balance that works but it's hard to find a solution that everyone is happy with. Obviously it's DH's house too and he should be able to invite her, but I'm struggling to get past what happened: the fact that she physically laid hands on me and the torrent of awful messages - I cannot imagine ever doing either of those things to someone. There are lots of other things but this is long enough already. FWIW I have suggested they spend regular time alone together in addition to the times we see her as a family but he isn't keen on that idea.

I'd really appreciate any suggestions or ideas of ways to find a compromise here and any other perspectives. AIBU to still say no sleepovers? Should I be able to put it all behind me now, especially given her age? My biggest concern is that I feel like I'm caught between two bad options: I either try to pretend everything is fine, and feel awful, or I hold the boundaries and DH is potentially going to end up resenting me in a few years. He is a great husband and dad and so important to me; I hate that this is coming between us. Thank you for reading if you've made it this far.

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AttilaTheMeerkat · 21/10/2025 12:30

Your h completely lucked out in the family stakes whereas you come from an emotionally healthy family. You’ve likely not gone across someone like your mil before now and you need to educate yourself re NPD.

Your child and you should really not see her at all because the emotional harm being done is also done right in front of your very eyes. It can be a look, a pinch etc. Look at how your h is now re her, that’s her doing and your son will be emotionally harmed in not too dissimilar ways. Disordered of thinking toxic people like your mil are really serial abusers so the normal rules of familial interactions don’t apply.

Boundaries do not ultimately work with narcissists and she’s trodden over yours already after you had previously set one. You would not tolerate this from a friend so stop at all tolerating it from your mil. She wants to use you all to make her look good and saintly to other people, you people and your feelings are of no consequence to her and she cares not who she hurts.

dundermiffling · 21/10/2025 13:43

Spot on @AttilaTheMeerkat its all about optics and control. Creating a perfect image to present to people in which everyone orbits her and she is the adored matriarch.

GoldDuster · 21/10/2025 13:51

Hold the line. You've gained ground in terms of protecting yourself, don't give it up now. She will likely come back tenfold if you do.

He has a relationship with his mother. That is his to own, and manage.

You can do the same. You're not a two headed creature. Absolutely not she doesn't get to to come to your home, the same as anyone who was verbally and physically abusive doesn't get to come to your home. There is clearly a big lag in understanding for your DH, but again, that's not yours to fix.

If you feel that her behaviour is not acceptable, and you do not want to spend time around her because of the pushing and the shouting, then that's the line. Hold it. Your DH then needs to make his own moves. If he's got any sense he will think it through and realise that you'll be around a lot longer than her at this point, and he's lucky you still are. Time for him to shape up.

OctopusDiscoball · 21/10/2025 20:52

Thank you, there's so much good advice here and it's been really reassuring to know that I'm not being unreasonable to feel how I do. It's helped me feel.more resolute about reinforcing boundaries with her and protecting us as much as possible. I appreciate everyone who's taken the time to write, it's very kind of you.

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