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Perspectives on behaviour from MIL- help seeing clear

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Abitconcerned25 · 14/10/2025 12:20

I feel silly to be posting, as I am sure this question has already been asked and solved. But somehow, I feel constantly rumminating about it, and wondering whether I am in fact being ridiculous and unreasonable.

When I fell pregant with my daughter I was unmarried. I was in my late 20s, a West European immigrant. Educated to degree level. Fluent in English.
My MIL for the next 10 years offered advice, and material and financial help. Very materially and time generous. At the same time, every aspect of my life was open or her to have an opinion (Parenting, my name, my weight, my cooking, my job, my marital relationship - intermittent drip advising I should divorce my husband (her son) as in her view he was abusive, and I was therefore not protecting my daughter). My husband is not abusive, or clarity. A lot of the advice was unsolicited. It could be viewed as intrusive, mean and belittling. But at the same time, if gently pointed out, she could plausibly claim that "it was joke", "I was oversensitive", "that's not what happened" "I should et a sense of humour"

My husband and I decided to have a second baby. There is a big age gap. We are very happy to have both our children.
Due to the level of coldness and indierence at the birth and first months after my second child's birth, I started to share less and less about my life.
She sent a very touching message at Christmas saying how she respected my decision of not "liking to be questioned" by her and her husband, but they would be super happy to hear "about our future plans and hopes and dreams"
I believed this. Again, I thought, maybe I was, really, too sensitive.
During Easter, I shared about a new business I started and it was described as "that thing with tables and chairs", my nine year old daughter was told that "her baby brother was an ugly baby and now an ugly toddler, her father was an ugly child and ugly man, she was just getting out of the ugly pugly phase and I looked weird in pictures". She told her she may speak many languaes but spell in none - and said this publicly to other adults. Sent a message telling my husband and me that we should share our news now that we had said there were some to share, as she had had a "bad night worrying" about what it could be whether I was pregnant or mybe my husband's medical problem (I was not pregnant but felt that any potential pregnancy would be viewed as a source of grief, like an illness)This all within the context of everyone else (including
them) being joyful about the birth of another baby in the family (as we were)
She apologised by saying "she was sorry she had upset us".
During summer, the comment about my daughter not being able to spell was repeated, again, in front of other adults. She was told that her baby cousin "would grow beautiful and loing to dogs" (My dauhter is not very keen on dogs)

I had retreated into not telling anyhting. She knew we were going on holiday. My husband sent a beautiul picture with blue skies (she had asked if we had returned) and her reply was "had any rain?". Asked me about the holiday in terms of rain again, then "many tourists?" Answer: no. Then "oh no tourists because it is so expensive?" Answer: no. All negative comments. My husband and I don't have much time together, and we had been lookin orward to this holiday, which she knew.
Asked about my toddler, I started givin a brief answer as to not be rude. She interrupted me and started talking about the impact of dog urine on her garden, followed by " what were you saying?"
Am I crazy in thinking this is not natural behaviour? Am I unreasonable? These re only a ew incidents.
Sometimes I think I am unreasonable and ungrateful because she does something beautiful. And then, she says one of these hurtful things.
Am I imagining these slights, where there are none?
I am taking medication to control feeelings of rage. But today I just want to cry.
Thank you for reading this far.

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TurtleCavalryIsSeriousShit · 14/10/2025 12:26

What does you DH think of her? Was he not mad that she called him abusive?

I think she's batshit crazy and you should keep away from her and KEEP YOUR KIDS AWAY TOO!

What is up with the medication for rage? Is the rage caused by hormones or what is going there? Did you maybe mean you're taking antidepressants as a mood stabiliser?

Abitconcerned25 · 14/10/2025 12:38

My husband had a difficult relationship with her. I did not believe that the relationship couldn't be saved, so for years I had encouraged to build bridges. He had therapy. He is now civil with her and has a good relationship with his dad. Whichbis what I wanted - as I love my parents and naively thouht maybe he was exaggerating (as the bad relationship started when he was a child)
I am taking an antiepileptic drug (prescribed by a doctor) to control rage. I do not have epilepsy but the doctor thought that it would work beter than an antidepressive. All of a sudden I feel incredibly angry at her and I feel I could punch someone or that I would like to really really hurt her. I feel incredibly ashamed to write this, and I don't want to feel like this.

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thepariscrimefiles · 14/10/2025 12:49

Is your MIL British? Her behaviour sounds unhinged and horribly judgemental, particularly the descriptions of your children and your husband as 'ugly'. That's just blatantly unkind and insulting.

Keep your children away from her. She is an unhealthy influence.

Abitconcerned25 · 14/10/2025 13:02

She is British upper-class. Very generous - hosts parties, buys clothes for the children in charity shops, does childcare, bakes, helps at church. All on her terms, though. But it makes me question: she can be so nice and generous. Am I exaggerating these comments, is the advice truly given as help and not hidden criticism?
The comments on the appearance of my children are a lot more difficult to explain away. Hence the uncontrollable rage. And feelin like a fool.

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Narcparentsurvivor · 14/10/2025 13:25

Lovely, you could be my sister in law. My mother was a vile person who behaved in similar ways. We ended up non contact with her (I and my siblings).
When you've grown up with decent people, it is hard to believe that a parent can be abusive to their offspring. The feeling of rage that you get is your suppressed anger at the way she has treated your husband. I dare say it's been building for several years.
Think carefully about how much you want her in your lives. Will she try to turn your children against you by repeating her lies about your husband being abusive? She's dangerous and you're now realising this.

Abitconcerned25 · 14/10/2025 13:39

I have had these feelings of thinkin "this is outrageous" to "actually, I must be going crazy" for 10 years.
MIl is lovely to her youngest child and his family. Slightly more detached to her middle child and the wife.
I used to feel sad. But now, I am just really angry.

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