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Dh a completely different person at home

90 replies

BoringWifey · 26/09/2025 14:01

I met dh through work 20 years ago. He was charming, funny, suave, outgoing, and chatty. He was the Work Social Committee chair for five years. He’s known as a “brilliant” people manager, excellent judge of character. He is fair, encouraging and generous. He still is like this 20 years later but only at work, with his friends, with his wider family.

With me and our dd, he is a totally different person. He was fine with dd when she was little but now she’s a teen he increasingly treats her like me. Cold, sullen, sarcastic, impatient, no eye contact, no affection.

We do have a younger son, too - and dh is all smiles, hugs, affection. So I know he still can put on this act if he wants.

I called him out on it years ago, cue lots of gaslighting, then an admission that he is an introvert so he needs to shut down and be his authentic self at home - so dd and are getting the real him and no one else

I tell him off when he is “moody” like this with dd and he gets angry and says I’m imagining it, or he has to play bad cop because I’m being too nice to her.

I have ignored it for so long but he’s started working from home and all day I can hear his loud happy meetings - laughter, in-jokes, chatting away. I ask him about it and tells me this is a gargantuan effort to maintain this front for his job.

No one would ever believe me if I told them what he’s like at home.

The person I thought I married is just someone else altogether. I think he regrets marrying me, I offered to leave 8 years ago but he insisted I stay and for a while things were better.

Im so baffled. Did I make him this way? Any experience and any ideas how to make him be any different at home?

OP posts:
Carlou · 27/09/2025 19:15

Crikeyalmighty · 26/09/2025 14:08

No you didn’t - I have the same . A constant ranter and moody - he isn’t like it all the time but enough to make it like living with Jekyll and Hyde! I’m 63 and easy going so it has got wearing over the years ( 30 of them)

I live with this too... and have done for 38 years. It's so draining! No one sees the real person behind the personality... the sarcasm, and nasty stuff all reserved for me.

Zanatdy · 27/09/2025 19:26

My ex was like this. I could never imagined that the person I met at work could turn into the person he did. People wouldn’t believe it.

FictionalCharacter · 27/09/2025 19:30

My late father was like this. It made home life miserable for me, sibling and mum. Eventually she divorced him, but years too late - in particular, too late to prevent my sibling being badly emotionally damaged.
It's very sad to see you playing down his behaviour and blaming yourself. And it's very sad indeed to see you say you'll never leave, because you could save your kids from this but won't.

SurroundedByEejits · 27/09/2025 19:54

This man is abusing your daughter. He is abusing you. Your children are seeing this, experiencing this, being damaged by this and somehow, it needs to stop. Whether that means by leaving or by him completely owning his behaviour and stopping it, those children need to be removed from that abuse. Frankly, unless he gets a LOT of counselling and actually does the work needed to make changes, the latter option is not one that is particularly realistic.

You need to find the resources and strength to remove all 3 of you from that situation. I'd suggest getting some proof, via recordings, videos, anyone else who has seen it to make a signed statement. He probably won't be happy about it and will try to make your life hell, but you owe it to your kids to minimise the damage he is causing the children. There are lots of resources out there, but either use a public computer, e.g. library, so he can't check your online history, or a burner phone he doesn't know about that you can keep somewhere safe, e.g. with a friend or family.

Blappengrap · 27/09/2025 20:02

You just described my dad. For the sake of your daughter, leave him. I wish my mum had. Your husband's behaviour is emotional abuse, whether he intends it or not, and I've been permanently scarred by it. Protect your child and leave.

CinnamonJellyBeans · 27/09/2025 20:13

It doesn't matter if you love him or not, you are being a bad parent by allowing your daughter to be subjected to emotional neglect on a daily basis.

NotDavidTennant · 27/09/2025 20:25

At some point you and your DD became devalued in his eyes.

He plays the 'good guy' with others because he craves their approval. He doesn't do it with either of you because he no longer values your approval.

DuckbilledSplatterPuff · 27/09/2025 20:26

It's so sad to read that

"I feel it must be me, something I’m doing or not doing... I am probably quite a nightmare to live with. I know I’m disorganised and clumsy and forgetful and often messy."

WHY do you think it must be you? His behaviour is his choice and responsibility.
At least you can see that his behaviour to your DD, who is an innocent in this, is just awful and probably damaging. You stand up for her to him. You did not make him treat your DD like this whilst he shines on your son.

So really really think why it must be your fault that he is so horrible.

You have said that you are bright, creative and caring, but that is not valued by him.

You don't sound like a nightmare to live with and I wonder if the claims that you are disorganised, clumsy, forgetful and messy... actually originate from him but its been said to you in a cold critical way by the "introvert" that you've come to believe it.

It would help you feel supported if you got some counselling yourself to help you find a path through this for yourself and your children. This sounds like a punishing way to live.

MrsTerryPratchett · 27/09/2025 20:28

BoringWifey · 26/09/2025 17:53

Thank you all. I’ll consider it. I “offered to leave” because I thought perhaps he felt lumbered with me, and but felt he couldn’t be the one to break up the family.

The thing is I feel it must be me, something I’m doing or not doing. Obviously I haven’t described my 20 relationship to you in detail and I am probably quite a nightmare to live with. I know I’m disorganised and clumsy and forgetful and often messy. But I’m also bright, creative and caring. I am not sure we value each other’s “good points” and I try so hard to appreciate them in him (eg he’s practical, hard-working, clever and loyal, he pulls his weight and then some at home.)

It’s so hard. My dd loves her dad, and weirdly I love him too. I know I will never leave. I guess I will keep looking for ways to change myself and adapt to make the marriage work better for me (and him!).

And you will watch your beautiful girl make herself small in life as well, prioritising a man over herself. And it will haunt you. You’re allowing his to be horrible to the two women in his life and nice to all the men and boys. Great message. By all means choose this for you but why would you choose it for her?

MrsBournville · 27/09/2025 20:33

Just thinking outside the box
Is it possible he is Autistic and is masking at work?
Any other traits you've noticed?

Nestingbirds · 27/09/2025 20:58

He is doing immeasurable harm ro your daughter.

If you care for her at all, please leave and take her with you.

Before she replicates this behaviour with her first love and you end up visiting in hospital (best case)

thereneverwasacloudyday · 27/09/2025 21:03

The people he's supposed to care about the most he is saving his worst for. None of his best. Just his worst.

Think on that.

And then remember that life is short. Do you really want to spend it this way?

Lovehascomeandgone · 27/09/2025 21:31

He is a narcissist who doesn’t want to be married. I had one of those and it was just miserable to live with. Me and kids are much happier now he has gone.

Wadadli · 27/09/2025 21:34

BoringWifey · 26/09/2025 14:01

I met dh through work 20 years ago. He was charming, funny, suave, outgoing, and chatty. He was the Work Social Committee chair for five years. He’s known as a “brilliant” people manager, excellent judge of character. He is fair, encouraging and generous. He still is like this 20 years later but only at work, with his friends, with his wider family.

With me and our dd, he is a totally different person. He was fine with dd when she was little but now she’s a teen he increasingly treats her like me. Cold, sullen, sarcastic, impatient, no eye contact, no affection.

We do have a younger son, too - and dh is all smiles, hugs, affection. So I know he still can put on this act if he wants.

I called him out on it years ago, cue lots of gaslighting, then an admission that he is an introvert so he needs to shut down and be his authentic self at home - so dd and are getting the real him and no one else

I tell him off when he is “moody” like this with dd and he gets angry and says I’m imagining it, or he has to play bad cop because I’m being too nice to her.

I have ignored it for so long but he’s started working from home and all day I can hear his loud happy meetings - laughter, in-jokes, chatting away. I ask him about it and tells me this is a gargantuan effort to maintain this front for his job.

No one would ever believe me if I told them what he’s like at home.

The person I thought I married is just someone else altogether. I think he regrets marrying me, I offered to leave 8 years ago but he insisted I stay and for a while things were better.

Im so baffled. Did I make him this way? Any experience and any ideas how to make him be any different at home?

It’s not you, it’s him. I have no solutions but I’m team BW. Don’t stop calling him out 💐

pikkumyy77 · 27/09/2025 21:35

AttilaTheMeerkat · 26/09/2025 14:24

It’s not you, it’s him. He is not an introvert. He is abusive and many of these types are quite plausible to those in the outside world. He indeed does not treat his work colleagues like he does to you people as his family.

What do you think your children are learning about relationships from your example?. This is not the role model they at all should be seeing here. How can you be helped into leaving your abuser?.

I agree. He sounds like a covert narcissist. He gets a lot of narcissistic supply from being “wonderful “ to outsiders or very young children but he can’t keep it up in front of you and and older teen as you have too much self identity snd your own ideas. He hates you and enjoys bewildering you snd depriving you of his good side.

Blappengrap · 27/09/2025 21:50

MrsBournville · 27/09/2025 20:33

Just thinking outside the box
Is it possible he is Autistic and is masking at work?
Any other traits you've noticed?

Even if he is (and my dad is) it makes no difference. He's not a suitable father or husband and he's emotionally damaging them.

whimsicallyprickly · 27/09/2025 21:55

Obviously it's not you

Hes a covert narcissist

I dont think it's fair of you to keep putting your daughter through his cruelty. Imo you must leave

He'll never change

Monstermunch67 · 27/09/2025 22:01

For at least half of the 4 decades I've spent with my DH I thought this exact behaviour was somehow my fault. Mainly due to gaslighting. We share several DCs and I've never been in a position to go it alone financially, still waiting on that lottery win, but I have suggested multiple times that he should go wherever makes him happy, as we clearly don't.

As the DCs have grown they've become as baffled as me as to how he's a completely different person outside the home. He charms neighbours, shop staff, the postman etc, though notably doesn't have any close friends and doesn't mix with colleagues outside work. I suppose it's too much effort to keep the mask in place for long enough to socialise.

You can literally see the mask slide between the garden gate and front door. It's something to watch.

Wallywobbles · 27/09/2025 22:38

Have you ever really given him both barrels? He sounds like an utter wanker.

Frogs88 · 27/09/2025 22:44

That does not sound like typical introvert behaviour - to me it sounds abusive. It could also be very damaging for your daughter to be around. If you want stay and tolerate that forever then that’s your choice but at least try to put in boundaries on how he can treat your daughter.

LovebeautifulOrca · 28/09/2025 00:32

I’m 100% certain he’s a covert narcissist and he will not change

CutiePieOk · 28/09/2025 00:37

I wouldn't stay. Sounds horrendous.

ThatBusyFish · 28/09/2025 03:24

Introverts might need quiet time to recharge, but they don’t use sulking, stonewalling or shutting a partner down as a way of controlling them. Abusers often make women their outlet, taking out their moods and frustrations at home. You could spend forever analysing why he’s this way, but too much empathy for him becomes self sacrificing. What matters is the impact on you and your daughter.

There’s actually a bit of a saga on here a series of threads from a woman who was living with an emotionally abusive husband. Reading through them can be really eye-opening. I’ll pop the link here in case you haven’t come across it yet and want to have a look.

www.mumsnet.com/talk/relationships/3448545-Confronting-DH-about-his-sulking

ThePeachHiker · 28/09/2025 09:34

I was brought up in a similar household (apart from the roles were reversed and my mum was the abuser). I have no self worth and am in my 40’s trying to leave an abusive marriage. Oddly enough I feel more anger towards my dad than my mum. He knew and didn’t keep me safe. As a result I’ve no idea what normal love is. I view him as much of an abuser as her to be honest. You are setting your daughter up for a lifetime of unhappiness.

DuckbilledSplatterPuff · 28/09/2025 12:34

If you stay, what strategy will you employ to effectively protect your DD?

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