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Realising it may be the end

10 replies

womanmadesunshine · 14/09/2025 19:55

Hello,

I’m 31 and been married 3 years, 2 DC 5 and 2. Mortgaged home with DH, all joint. He works FT as do I, flexitime and option to work from home a few times a week. I started a new job at the start of the year which is my dream job and, although I’m so hard on myself and hate anything positive towards myself (!) have been told I’m doing incredibly. I had to take a pay cut to start but next year, once qualified as I’m doing lots of qualifications, I’ll jump massively.

Onto the actual point, just wanted to give you some background!

I feel like my marriage is all but gone - it doesn’t serve me anything positive and I feel DH makes my life much harder, now starting to think he does it purposely. The only sticking problem is, which sounds absolutely ridiculous in the grand scheme of things, I would worry about losing the standard of living for the children and I, our home and the feeling of being a failure. DH is the same age and works for the same wider department as me but not the same team.

He’s slowly becoming unbearable in my eyes and I don’t know what to do. If I started looking at divorce, I’d have no idea what to do or where to start. I’ll try and list why I think I’m feeling this way (please feel free to skim)

  • He's very much like a teenage slob. He moans that he’s putting on weight or we’re short of money towards the end of the month but loves sitting and eating junk food. He also constantly lets rip and thinks it’s funny
  • He has no motivation - he rarely ever comes into the office and any qualifications he’s doing, leaves to the last minute and then constantly moans about needing help. One piece of work he did, was practically mine. I’ve also had to sit and go through all of his assigned work, making him write a to do list and seeing what stage every bit was up to (yes I shouldn’t have helped, haven’t done it again!)
  • Similarly, he’ll moan he’s tired and instead of pushing through like most parents have to, to get things done, he’d rather just sit on the sofa and nothing gets done if I don’t do it (think huge pile of washing up left all night). If we get any time to sit and watch something on the TV, within 5 minutes he’s asleep so I’m sat by myself
  • He can’t (or doesn’t want to) see or do any housework / cleaning. I’ve mentioned things many times like giving the doors a quick wipe down or cleaning the downstairs toilet where the children make marks or mess and he just won’t. A few weeks in a row, when asked to at least change our bedding, he gets as far as changing the pillowcases, then leaves the rest of the clean bedding in a pile on the floor
  • He leaves things lying around everywhere for days on end, including his work things, then ask me where they’ve gone. He will also complain that I don’t put his clothes away. His wardrobe looks like someone’s just got every item and thrown it in
  • He’ll put his name to lots of jobs that then don’t get done. When the children go up new sizes of shoes or clothes, I’d rather just charity shop or throw out, but he’ll say, he’ll put it on Vinted, then never does (cue a huge shoe haul left on my utility work top for days)
  • He doesn’t do anything with the children aside from school/nursery drop offs. He doesn’t plan their new clothes when they need new sizes or new school year / hobbies (finding out which ones are where, arranging them to start / booking / buying equipment etc) / appointments / planning Xmas etc for what presents they might like / getting their clothes out for the day / getting them ready on a morning / buying new books or practicing new skills / planning family outings / when they might need a new toothbrush or a sponge or new toiletries
  • On that, he can’t stick to a routine or do anything like take them out for a walk before/after tea, get DS out on his bike or help stick to taking DS swimming (DS refuses lessons so needs the extra ‘effort’ of taking him to a session). I will be the one suggesting it but if I don’t do it myself, it won’t happen
  • Also on the children, his dad is our only childcare (DD isn’t full time nursery yet). If there’s a time we need him, he can’t organise it and will often be messaging him on a morning to say, come round now or he’ll not get round to telling him of an ad hoc time or when he’s needed until the last minute. FIL only lives around the corner, but still
  • He moans that his household job is cooking, despite me doing the meal plan and shopping list for it all. He then gets annoyed about cooking v ironing - he won’t do any and I refuse to iron my clothes plus both of the children’s. So much so, he puts all his tops back in his wardrobe unironed and wears them awfully creased, saying how unfair it is that I won’t iron his
  • He can go days without having a shower or taking care of himself
  • He will lie in bed until the very last minute on a morning, when I’ve been up for hours already to make sure I had time to get myself ready, plus the children. He will still then moan he’s too tired. He refuses to walk the dogs as he says he’d have to get up too early. A while back he then started going to the gym with his friend, needing to get up at 5am and couldn’t see my issue with him doing this, yet said he couldn’t get up to walk the dogs. On a usual morning, I’ll have got both ready, he’ll come downstairs and prioritise setting up his work laptop, rather than helping feed the dogs or get the children breakfast
  • We have no relationship. I’ve told him so many times I’d love to go out on a ‘date’ day or night but it’s just like he can’t be bothered or doesn't care. He’s the master of saying we need to do something like go on a city break but never sorts it out. If I ask, he’ll say, oh well I looked the other day, but says nothing more. He doesn’t compliment me and we don’t have sex very much.
  • He’s started speaking to me very rudely in front of the children, knowing we’re having a lot of difficulties with DS’ behaviour at the moment. He’ll tell me to shut up, to bore off or make very odd gaslighting comments but will erupt if I highlight them. E.g. tonight, I suggested DS to stay up an extra half an hour to do his writing workbooks (he struggled in Reception with writing). It’s usually me who does them. I told DH he could do it tonight and told DS he knew which one he needed, meaning he knows where it’s kept and what it looks like. DH then started saying that comment meant I’d been planning this all along with DS, yet when I called it out as an odd thing to say, started saying he wasn’t doing anything and I am getting paranoid. He’ll also mimic me but if he perceives I’ve done that, again he’ll get cross
  • The last and best (!) he kissed a random girl on a stag do earlier in the year. He lied about it at first and got very nasty to me when I first confronted him, calling me a manipulative little c word amongst other things and insinuating he’d end the relationship as his life was so awful with me. He didn’t admit it until the following day and even then, still had to be forced to fly home early, rather than offer to come himself. He couldn’t see why I wouldn’t feel the best about him staying there another night, especially since the next day they carried on messaging, insinuating they might meet up again as a group. His excuse for doing it was because we had been arguing before he went as he’d told me he wasn’t going to go on the stag do, left it until the last minute and booked the tickets without even having a conversation with me. He was all full of I want to change, I want to resolve this at the start, but that’s quickly gone. Yes, I’m a doormat but I suppose I didn’t know what I wanted to do and was scared of blowing up my whole life.

Sorry for waffling at you all, I’m just really drained and fed up and don’t have many people to talk to.

OP posts:
DiscoBob · 14/09/2025 20:05

He's not going to change. So for your own sake and to set a decent example to the children you should part ways.

It sounds like you no longer live him and definitely don't like him. Understandably.

PashaMinaMio · 14/09/2025 20:07

I am so sorry for this turmoil you must be going through. It makes worrying reading.

If this was your friend telling you this, what advice would you give her?

As I was reading your narrative I was wondering where in the list you’d get to the personal hygiene bit! That alone would finish it for me. Yuk, imagine all that bacteria floating around in his underwear. Who’d want sex with that?

You know what you need to do. Get on with it!

GreenCandleWax · 14/09/2025 20:08

OP This sounds absolutely awful. What does he bring to your relationship that is positive? On top of that if he is being abusive verbally in front of your children, you surely have to end it. You cannot model his behaviour as acceptable between a man and his wife or partner. The only caveat is whether his lack of participation in the family is due to depresasion. If it is, tell him he needs to get help and not just drag you and the family down. If it not that, then he is not worthy off you, and you would be better off single with your DC. It doesn't sound as though he would put up much of a fight with you for custody. I hope you can get to the bottom of why he is like this, and get a better life accordingly.🍀

womanmadesunshine · 14/09/2025 20:11

He’s always made me feel like I’ve needed him and I’ve overlooked so much. I’m finally at a stage where I’m feeling the tiniest bit stronger and realising that I don’t want to live my life like this. I definitely agree that he won’t change.

It’s so hard to take your own advice but you’re so right if you look at it from a friend going through this. My life has got a lot better in starting my new job because I’m recognised for doing a good job and there’s progression. I’ve lost a lot of weight and I can wear makeup, whereas previous jobs it wasn’t the best idea to. I just feel drained with it all and that he makes my life more of an uphill struggle.

I’ve tried to tentatively discuss where we’re at before and he will make hints that maybe he’s depressed or has ADHD, but won’t do anything to explore that.

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OchreRaven · 14/09/2025 20:36

I remember your post when he kissed that girl on the stag do (if that’s all he did). He’s awful. He has no respect for you and he sounds like he brings nothing to the table. Divorce will be hard. But you know there is no happy ending with him. At least if you are single the possibilities for your life open up. Right now he’s the stone around your neck. You don’t need to justify why you want to split up. You are not happy. He doesn’t make you happy. And he doesn’t deserve your loyalty. Why would you stay despite your unhappiness when he has shown you that your relationship means very little to him.

womanmadesunshine · 14/09/2025 20:43

It’s awful that I couldn’t just leave there and then and make myself do it 😞. I so badly want to feel appreciated and have someone who shows they care/wants to take on some of the load. We never officially got to a point of anything other than this weird ‘floating in the ether’ type situation where I’ve never been able to just make that final step as the unknown terrifies me.

I do feel like life would be easier in so many ways though, you’re right. Things would be tidy as a very small positive, but this does impact on me hugely. I wish someone could just kick me up the behind!

OP posts:
Merseymum1980 · 14/09/2025 20:45

Does he smoke weed? X

Maltipoo · 14/09/2025 21:05

He's an emotionally and verbally abusive manbaby and he's not going to change. It seems your choice is to either accept living in this utter hell or accept a downgrade in lifestyle. I picked the latter and am eternally glad that I did.
Try to get that feeling of being a failure out of your head. He's the one who failed. You gave it your best shot and he didn't reciprocate. That's not on you.

Maltipoo · 14/09/2025 21:11

Love, you don't need others to kick you, you just need to kick yourself in the arse. Just end it. Don't continue to agonize about it and get analysis paralysis. The bottom line is that you're miserable and there is no way to be otherwise if you continue to be with this man. See a lawyer.
I've been through this. The longer you dither, the worse it is. The peace of mind gained from leaving such a loser is priceless. You will just have to accept taking a financial hit for the sake of that peace.

Endofyear · 14/09/2025 21:15

OP you know what you need to do. You just have to take the first step. Make an appointment and see a solicitor. Don't allow yourself to drift along like this any longer, the sooner you take back control of your life, the stronger and more focused you will feel.

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