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How to navigate teen not wanting to see their dad?

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TotorosBigToe · 06/09/2025 19:58

Looking for some impartial advice from other parents who’ve been here.

My ex and I separated when I was pregnant, but have managed to muddle through co-parenting for the most part. Never a need to go to court. The only times DD has not gone to her dad's was during lockdown and times she has been too ill to go.

14yo DD usually sees her dad twice a week after school and stays over every third weekend. This arrangement has been in place for years and has worked fairly smoothly up to now.

The issue is that sometimes she really doesn’t want to go, for reasons that seem valid to me (autistic burnout after school, social anxiety in busy situations, just wanting some downtime at home).

She’s old enough to articulate her feelings clearly and I don’t feel comfortable physically forcing her to go when she’s crying or clearly distressed.

Recently she was invited to a party at a busy restaurant. She explained very clearly that she wasn’t comfortable going, because she finds large groups and noisy places overwhelming, especially after a tiring first week back at school. We talked through some potential strategies that might help like trying the restaurant beforehand to get a feel for it and having her text us if it gets too much and she wants picking up early.

She said that she just wasn't ready and would rather meet up with friends one on one or in a smaller group. She was settled with her decision and I respected that, but her dad spent hours on the phone trying to change her mind, despite the conversation upsetting her. When she still said no, he said he was disappointed, as she was missing out on an opportunity and then got off the phone to go to bed.

I then dealt with a tearful DD until 2am, trying to convince her that she is able to choose whatever she is comfortable with and that she has not let anybody down.

Yesterday (day before the party) he wanted to take her to the same restaurant as part of his contact time. She was visibly upset and begged me not to go, as she felt he was doing this to make a point. I said to ex that I would not be sending DD for contact whilst so distressed.

Ex became angry and asked if I was trying to control what he does with DD on his time. I reiterated that whilst I didn't agree with his plans, the only reason I was not sending DD in this moment was because she was too distressed to go.

He insisted that I force her to get ready or he would come and take her himself. I said absolutely not and that he was not to come over. I said that I would work on calming DD down and we'll take it from there.

After an hour, I managed to calm DD down enough to talk about what she was thinking. She said in no uncertain terms that she didn't want to go and asked why couldn't he pick any other restaurant? She even said she would be happy to go to that one, but not the day before the party, as she's still feeling delicate about not going.

He rang her and she ended up going with him, but later she told me it was a horrible evening. When I asked why, she wouldnt explain any further as she was too angry, upset and tired.

I've not heard from her since (ex does take DD's phone away from her at his sometimes) and likely won't find out anything before she comes home tomorrow.

I feel awful for not insisting she stays, but she physically went with him in the end, after a lot of convincing from him.

Ex feels that as she’s “a child,” she shouldn’t get a say in whether she sees him and that I’m being obstructive if I don’t make her go every single time. He can also be quite pushy and has hinted about legal action, which makes me anxious.

I want DD to have a good relationship with her dad, but I also want to respect her voice and protect her mental wellbeing.

Has anyone else been in this situation with a teen?

At what point can/should a child’s wishes be respected around contact?

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Coldnightsapproachingwhereismyduvet · 06/09/2025 20:04

Imo I'd be blocking him on her phone. Has he always been a bully?
He needs to respect her choices or risk losing her for years..
A court wouldn't force her to go so why should you? . You need to have a dd that trusts you. Managing her relationship with her df isn't your job at her age...

AmandaHoldensLips · 06/09/2025 20:04

At 14, she will be deemed to have a choice about whether she sees her dad. If he were to take it to court for example, the courts would not force her to spend time with him.

In your shoes, I would listen to her and support whatever choice she makes.

Mumof2amazingasdkiddos · 06/09/2025 20:05

Tell your ex to take you to court, at 14 they will listen to DD wishes and won't force her to go if she doesn't want to. I'd also be telling him that if he carries on like this he will end up losing any sort of relationship with her. DD at 14 is old enough to express her wishes and needs and she has clearly done so to you. I understand it's very difficult being stuck in the middle and being falsely accused of parental alienation but I would be supporting DD. Encourage her to go like you have been doing, keep talking through options and strategies but if she decides its a no then back her up and its a no

fruitypancake · 06/09/2025 20:07

I think that at 14 it is DD’s choice and if she doesn’t want to go that should be respected , also that is on him not on you - it sounds like you are a great Mum and is nice to that you encourage their relationship

TotorosBigToe · 06/09/2025 21:06

Thank you all for replying so quickly.

I so wish I had insisted she stayed home this weekend. She sounded so upset on the phone last night.

I second-guessed myself, because my ex became so angry, but know I need to support my daughter's needs over his.

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Octavia64 · 06/09/2025 21:18

At this age it’s not “his time”.

as others have says if it went to court her views would absolutely be taken into consideration and realistically she’d only see him when she wanted to.

courts understand that as children grow up they develop their own friends and lives and by this age it is more about parents supporting them not about them being forced to go and see parents.

in your shoes I would absolutely be refusing to persuade or do anything else in the direction of encouraging her to see her father and I would ask to meet him and explain the court situation and that he is making things worse for himself.

it does sound like the current arrangement is on the verge of collapse.

TotorosBigToe · 06/09/2025 22:49

Thank you. It's reassuring to hear that courts would take DD's views into account.

This is the first time that she was late for contact with him, but his reaction worried me. He turned it into me obstructing his parental rights and asked how I would feel if DD decided she didn't want to come home from his. He then made reference to my autism and the fact that I struggle to keep our home tidy (executive dysfunction) and insinuated that would be grounds for her to live him.

For the most part, we are amicable. Things like this only happen when I try and put DD's needs first and he disagrees.

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TomatoSandwiches · 06/09/2025 22:56

He is angry because he knows he has no control if she decides to stop seeing him and if you support her he hasn't got a leg to stand on.
You are her advocate, not his so please make sure your daughter knows you are in her corner and you will support any and all choices she makes in regard to contact with her bully of a father.
No court would make her see him against her will.

Mumof2amazingasdkiddos · 07/09/2025 10:04

The next time he threatens you with going to court and that he will be granted custody for x y z reason your reply should be along the lines of "You do what you feel you need to do" A very simple one line statement that you just repeat over and over, do not be drawn into an argument or a need to defend yourself. He likely wants a reaction so do not give him one. This will probably escalate and happen more often as you advocate for what your DD wants and needs so grey rock it right from the start. No solicitor is going to take his case as they know the court won't be interested given DD is 14 and I assume you are not an abusive parent.

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 07/09/2025 10:17

He’s being ridiculous and is burning his own Bridges (but will probably be chatting on fathers rights Reddit about how you’re alienating him).

my biggest advice is to suggest a mediation company that includes children and their views to him, they will help your daughter advocate for herself in a nutural way about how she’s like to spend time with him going forwards and what she does and doesn’t feel able to do in this time and they’ll also make it clear to him that he’ll need to work with her and her asd needs.

as mum though I think you did the right thing encouraging her to go - he was unhelpful and unpleasant but not abusive and a similar situation will soon happen at school or work - as mum you can help navigate these but not prevent them happening entirely. She’s learning future skills about asserting her needs and explaining boundaries in future romantic partnerships now.

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 07/09/2025 10:18

Mumof2amazingasdkiddos · 07/09/2025 10:04

The next time he threatens you with going to court and that he will be granted custody for x y z reason your reply should be along the lines of "You do what you feel you need to do" A very simple one line statement that you just repeat over and over, do not be drawn into an argument or a need to defend yourself. He likely wants a reaction so do not give him one. This will probably escalate and happen more often as you advocate for what your DD wants and needs so grey rock it right from the start. No solicitor is going to take his case as they know the court won't be interested given DD is 14 and I assume you are not an abusive parent.

he can’t apply to court without attempting mediation, I think they’d do well for a family child inclusive mediation session.
so I’d write back saying ‘before court we need to do mediation here is a list of companies I’ve found that include children voice and I’d be happy to work with any form this list’

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