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If you're middle aged, can I ask what your friendships look like?

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camiseta · 03/09/2025 17:32

I'm middle aged and live with a number of conditions that have made life and relationships very difficult. Nevertheless, I've fought really hard to make and keep friends in my life in some capacity although I haven't had the energy to foster close links with more than a few people and I'm hindered in ways that most people aren't (eg speech disorders mean phone calls take weeks of mental preparation and then days to recover - even though you wouldn't know I had speech disorders, I sound normal). And because, until recently, I didn't have diagnoses for most of these conditions I could never explain why I couldn't do some things or sustain certain types of effort which has left me in a situation where a lot of people think I'm quite a low effort, flaky friend, even though I'm pushing myself to the point of exhaustion just to give what I'm giving on a sporadic basis.

For the first time in my life, however, there are a number of treatments on the horizon for some of my conditions and I'm starting to dream about trying to improve the friendships I do have and maybe even make more friends, but I'm really not sure what to aim for or what's normal. I know it varies widely but I'd be interested to hear from other people who consider themselves middle aged - how many friends do you have and how many would you call close? What do you define as close? How many people do you phone on a regular basis and how many people do you manage to text regularly? How many people do you see in person regularly and do you seem them in groups or one on one? Are there people you're in touch with without fail or do most of your relationships ebb and flow a bit? As in you might go through phases of texting or phoning a lot then not speak to people for months? I'd love to have some idea of what's normal for someone not hindered by all these weird health things that I've been living with! Some of my friends have tried to get closer to me over the years and I haven't been able to reciprocate their efforts. I'm now wondering if I should try and do more if it becomes possible (no guarantee I'll be a candidate for the treatments or that they'll work) but not quite sure what's normal re more and what will make me look like an obsessed stalker! Now people have kids I'm also aware they have less time although I don't have kids myself. To sum up, what is a normal level of effort when it comes to close and less close friendships and what are normal outcomes from these levels of effort?! All insights welcome - I don't expect anyone to answer each and every question, just an overview would be really helpful!

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autienotnaughty · 15/09/2025 05:50

I have two old friends from school,we lived in each others pockets through our teens/twenties but it changed in our thirties. We text every few weeks and meet maybe a few times a year.
I made groups of mum friends after having each of my children but they all drifted off except one with my last child who I see most weeks and talk every couple days.
dh has a group of friends that we sometime s do couple meet-ups but maybe a few time a year.
Then there’s a few acquaintances from school who I mijght have a coffee with from time to
time.
it doesn’t feel like a lot as my social meet ups (not including odd daytime walk or coffee) probably comes to about 4-6 times a year.
I know other people who do week long holidays with their closest friends or weekends away. We don’t really have that.

camiseta · 17/09/2025 03:03

Itsnottheheatitsthehumidity · 15/09/2025 05:40

I have always had problems retaining friends. I am shy, and into solitary interests. I was married for 18 years until two years ago, and that took up a LOT of my time. (Part of the reason I divorced him was because he wanted attention on himself the majority of the time. He made me feel guilty for going out anywhere) All my current relationships with people I know are fairly shallow. There’s one very old friend whom I have known since childhood, (our mums were friends) whom I text occasionally but she lives 80 miles away, currently, and is a busy parent of two boys. I told her I was moving closer to her recently and she was very pleased actually. But there’s no close friends, in the distance or emotional sense. My brother is the person I text the most, other than my daughter. He also lives 80 miles away! (Same town) I am hoping to make new friends in my new town because I don’t want to continue being alone as I have been currently. I have had a lifetime of drama and emotional stress, and I will ghost people that I perceive to be wasting my time. Unfortunately, that’s most people! I am perimenopausal, too.

I'm so sorry you've had such a hard time. Good luck in your new life - ot sounds like you have a good approach and a solid foundation of a few good people whose company you enjoy and who care about you. You have good boundaries too by the sounds of things.

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camiseta · 17/09/2025 03:04

autienotnaughty · 15/09/2025 05:50

I have two old friends from school,we lived in each others pockets through our teens/twenties but it changed in our thirties. We text every few weeks and meet maybe a few times a year.
I made groups of mum friends after having each of my children but they all drifted off except one with my last child who I see most weeks and talk every couple days.
dh has a group of friends that we sometime s do couple meet-ups but maybe a few time a year.
Then there’s a few acquaintances from school who I mijght have a coffee with from time to
time.
it doesn’t feel like a lot as my social meet ups (not including odd daytime walk or coffee) probably comes to about 4-6 times a year.
I know other people who do week long holidays with their closest friends or weekends away. We don’t really have that.

That sounds like it works for you! I can't decide if I'd want to go away for weeks with friends or not. I loved it when I lived in the same place as some of my closest friends and we saw each other every weekend but every day might be too much! Maybe not though, it clearly works for some people!

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Zanatdy · 17/09/2025 05:26

I’m 48 and i’d say I have a lot of friends. Some close friends (school friends) who I don’t see all that often due to distance but we keep in touch. Another friend I chat to every week for 90 mins or so (supporting her with some challenging issues she has) plus lots of friends from different circles who I meet up for food with - so they range from old work colleagues, old nursery and school mums. Then I have my walking group, meet up with them for walk / food and drink twice a week. I am a very sociable person and do put a lot of effort into maintaining friendships. I’d like to think i’m a good friend. One of my closest local friends died 6 months ago and it hit me really hard. I spent weeks at her bedside and still not over it.

Thevegetarianchef · 17/09/2025 05:48

I'm late 50s and worked unsociable hours all my adult life mostly with men.
I always found family gatherings and social events hard so became a workaholic.Then kids to sort out.
I have no friends really which I'm hoping to work on.
I do have an energetic interrupting speech pattern and have been diagnosed as Hyperactive Impulsive ADHD.
People love or hate it and I'm working on it now I've been recently diagnosed.
I can be too much for some.
Shame really as I was a popular person at school and college.

Nestingbirds · 17/09/2025 06:09

I am 50. Still with teen dc at home, and a very busy life. As most of us do at this point.

I have a few very old friends 37 plus years. I don’t see them often as they live too far away, but stay in touch via WA and birthdays etc. I know they are there, if I need them and vica versa.

I have a group of friends I have known for 15 years - we are close and see each other weekly/monthly. Whoever can make it. Very flexible. WA regularly and text most days. They are very good friends and I love seeing them.

A second group of friends that are newer. 7 years and are great fun. We catch up monthly.

We have some friends as couples. See regularly for dinner a few times a year.

A looser variety of friends that come and go - see irregularly but it’s nice when we do.

We have family too, obviously and try to make time for them.

Op it strikes me that you need to be more open and honest with your friends about your limitations. Let them know how hard it is, that you appreciate their friendship, far better for the integrity of the relationship

I don’t have time for phone calls, WA and text or meet in person only works well for me.

Theextraordinaryisintheordinary · 17/09/2025 06:25

Hi. Late fourties here. Lots of friends mainly because I’ve spent a lot of time nurturing them. I’ve been the one to check in, suggest activities and host parties. I used to put a lot of energy into hooking people up that I thought would get on. Maybe, subconsciously I was trying to build my own little utopia. I always had lots of energy and time for people but since I reached 48 I find I am seeking my own company more and more & swapping out people for plants. 🌱

I’m no longer the friend who’d get excited to leave you surprises on your doorstep, flowers, eggs whatever. My focus is now more on myself and my family. Patients take a lot of my energy when I’m at work so I need more time to recalibrate these days.

It’s eye opening to see who actually reaches out to check on me now I’m no longer the instigator.

All the best with the new treatments.x

Nestingbirds · 20/09/2025 17:01

Theextraordinaryisintheordinary · 17/09/2025 06:25

Hi. Late fourties here. Lots of friends mainly because I’ve spent a lot of time nurturing them. I’ve been the one to check in, suggest activities and host parties. I used to put a lot of energy into hooking people up that I thought would get on. Maybe, subconsciously I was trying to build my own little utopia. I always had lots of energy and time for people but since I reached 48 I find I am seeking my own company more and more & swapping out people for plants. 🌱

I’m no longer the friend who’d get excited to leave you surprises on your doorstep, flowers, eggs whatever. My focus is now more on myself and my family. Patients take a lot of my energy when I’m at work so I need more time to recalibrate these days.

It’s eye opening to see who actually reaches out to check on me now I’m no longer the instigator.

All the best with the new treatments.x

Edited

This happened to me too, when I realised my energy and generosity were not infinite. I needed and wanted more time on my own, and I felt less need to ‘be there’ for everyone. I am older than you, and found some friends wanted to be cared for but didn’t want to offer the same love back - some asked why I had changed. Many stepped up, and became much better friends.

I now say what I need from those around me. I expect them to care and make an effort. I am not always going to do the hosting and caring.

It feels great. It feels balanced.
I have time to take care of my own needs.

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