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Boundaries and broken trust

14 replies

GenerallyVeryUnreasonable · 17/08/2025 10:19

I’m post-divorce, mid 30s, 4yo DD and in a relationship with a man for the last year. The relationship is good in lots of ways. I’m ashamed to say though that I broke his trust. I told some white lies and then tried to cover them up, and the truth came out in bits and pieces. Although none of the lies were about deal-breaking topics, it’s the broken trust that’s hurt him a lot - me saying I had told the full truth each time only for something else to be revealed. I guess I was in a strange place post-divorce, bit of a hit to my self-esteem, etc., and I was trying to appear perfect. The lies were about the specifics of how and when my last relationship ended and something I told him early on when I wasn’t ready to tell him about an incident that occurred that meant I had to cut our third date short. I made something up on the spot.

He has always been quite unpredictable and volatile in his moods and reactions. If he were a woman, he would be called “fiery”. I’m the opposite to this. He has ADHD so some of it could be about emotional regulation, cultural too (we’re from different parts of the world).

I was always just trying to keep the peace by avoiding (lying about) things I thought might provoke a reaction from him. Unfortunately it was how I was brought up - avoid conflict at all costs. I’m on the avoidant side too, in terms of attachment. I’m learning and I know I wouldn’t repeat it, whether with him or someone else in my future. I continue to make efforts in the name of accountability and repair.

He has asked for something that has concerned me. I have always enjoyed spa days, whether alone or with a friend, partner or my mum. However, my partner has expressed discomfort at the idea of me going alone or with a friend, seeing it as inappropriate. I wholeheartedly disagree and have spelled out how much joy I get from a day alone or with a good female friend. This topic came up a while ago, before the trust thing, but it continues to bubble on.

Should I be seeking some sort of compromise? Am I choosing a spa over my partner, or is this a bigger, more worrying thing? The way I see it, he is entitled to say what he is uncomfortable with in a relationship and to set his own boundaries, and up to me to say yes or no to it, but there may be a strong mismatch here - probably influenced by culture. And I react to his conflict style by shutting down and doing whatever to end it as quickly as possible or avoiding it entirely. Perhaps our values around honesty are also different. I have always considered myself an honest person but he seems to see lying as black and white, whereas I do see the grey.

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Campingisnexttogodliness · 17/08/2025 10:22

Him not wanting you to spend time with a friend is reason alone to dump him...

MilitantFawcett · 17/08/2025 10:26

What I read is that 1) he gets “volatile” when you do something he doesn’t like, and you then walk on eggshells around him trying to pacify him and 2) he wants to prevent you doing the things that make you happy and wants to isolate you from your friends, by making you believe it’s your behaviour that is problematic. There’s a name for that kind of behaviour OP.

RealEagle · 17/08/2025 10:28

You told him lies ,but you are an honest person. He has said no to you going out with friends .Be single this relationship is shit.

TwistedWonder · 17/08/2025 10:39

RealEagle · 17/08/2025 10:28

You told him lies ,but you are an honest person. He has said no to you going out with friends .Be single this relationship is shit.

Agree - no such thing h as ‘white lies’ or ‘fibs’ a lie is a lie

Have you posted this before OP? The wording looks very familiar.

Regardless anything else this is a car crash of a relationship with a controlling prick who has you treading on eggshells

You have a child - why would you inflict this volatile controlling man into their life?

Sparklesandspandexgallore · 17/08/2025 10:45

He objects to you going for a spa day?
What on earth does he think you will be doing there?
Dump him.

Omgblueskys · 17/08/2025 10:47

OK op so ask yourself, would you be uncomfortable with him going to to pub alone or with a friend, would you, so why is this different to you enjoying a spa day, this is not OK op, what will be next, not wanting you to spend time visiting family without him , red flags here op,

JustGotToKeepOnKeepingOn · 17/08/2025 11:02

It all sounds off. You told white lies to avoid his fiery temper. He’s using your white lies as a stick to beat you with. He’s not happy with you going to a spa alone or with a friend. So basically you can never got to a spa again unless it’s with him. He’s using the white lies as an excuse to control you. He’s sounds horrible. You need to get rid of him as this is only going to get worse. He’s not really bothered about the white lies he’s just guilting you into thinking he is so he can dictate what you’re ‘allowed’ to do. End it.

DoRayMeMeMe · 17/08/2025 11:11

This is not the right man for you.

AttilaTheMeerkat · 17/08/2025 11:25

He is your very own Mr Wrong and is abusive towards you to boot. The relationship is over and it needs to be over as of now. Continuing it at all will just trash your self worth and self esteem. You also have a child; please do not further inflict him on your child. This is nothing whatsoever to do with his culture; abusers live in all cultures and creeds. And I think he lies about him having ADHD as well; that is also no excuse or justification for his treatment of you.

ComtesseDeSpair · 17/08/2025 11:30

End it. Any partner about whom you have to use phrases like “emotional regulation” and “conflict style” for their behaviour isn’t in a position to have a healthy relationship with anyone.

For the future: you don’t owe any new partner the details of your past relationships, and anyone who persistently asks about them and insists you tell them “the whole truth” is bad news. Other people’s insecurity or jealousy about you having been with other people before them is not your issue to placate. Anyone demanding the information and then punishing you for lying about things you don’t want to share because they think it’s their business to know is an instant red flag.

ReceiveMyPurpleParsnip · 17/08/2025 15:42

You say you consider yourself an honest person…but white lies are usually things like “your hair looks great” when someone’s already at an event and can’t do anything about it: your lies sound like they might be much more significant?

Was the lie about “the specifics of how and when your last relationship ended” along the lines of saying you were single when you met the man you’re with now, or something similar? Has he ever discovered a lie about who you were with or where you were?

I can understand being on edge with someone who’s already shown themselves to be dishonest…but this isn’t healthy regardless of any reasons for distrust. You also mentioned lying to avoid provoking a reaction as he’s unpredictable and volatile; for yourself, and because you have a young child, you need to end it.

Missj25 · 17/08/2025 20:39

JustGotToKeepOnKeepingOn · 17/08/2025 11:02

It all sounds off. You told white lies to avoid his fiery temper. He’s using your white lies as a stick to beat you with. He’s not happy with you going to a spa alone or with a friend. So basically you can never got to a spa again unless it’s with him. He’s using the white lies as an excuse to control you. He’s sounds horrible. You need to get rid of him as this is only going to get worse. He’s not really bothered about the white lies he’s just guilting you into thinking he is so he can dictate what you’re ‘allowed’ to do. End it.

Exactly this

GenerallyVeryUnreasonable · 18/08/2025 14:05

ReceiveMyPurpleParsnip · 17/08/2025 15:42

You say you consider yourself an honest person…but white lies are usually things like “your hair looks great” when someone’s already at an event and can’t do anything about it: your lies sound like they might be much more significant?

Was the lie about “the specifics of how and when your last relationship ended” along the lines of saying you were single when you met the man you’re with now, or something similar? Has he ever discovered a lie about who you were with or where you were?

I can understand being on edge with someone who’s already shown themselves to be dishonest…but this isn’t healthy regardless of any reasons for distrust. You also mentioned lying to avoid provoking a reaction as he’s unpredictable and volatile; for yourself, and because you have a young child, you need to end it.

I had dated someone for a couple of months before him. This ex and I broke things off but agreed to be friends. I saw this ex platonically whilst the recent boyfriend and I were early dating. Once I found out my boyfriend’s views on that sort of thing, I lied about when I’d last seen this ex, and eventually the lie came out.

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VimesandhisCardboardBoots · 18/08/2025 15:54

Why do you want a relationship with someone "unpredictable and volatile in his moods" @GenerallyVeryUnreasonable ?

This is a man who you'll presumably at some point want to introduce to your daughter. Why are you willing to put your daughter through that?

And that's before we get to the fact that he's trying to separate you from your support structures by dictating what you can and can't do with your friends and family.

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