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Dating after suicide of husband

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Bee8988 · 14/08/2025 18:46

Long story short. I was with my husband since I was 17, he took his own life nearly 3 years ago. We were together nearly 20 years. He suffered from mental illness and substance abuse. I have 4 children, still at home. Although they are teenagers now.

My marriage towards the end was awful due to my husbands addiction to drugs. I was however devastated when he took his own life. My husband was my best friend and soul mate.I stayed single for 2.5 years and even enrolled into university to do a degree to distract myself. I started to get a bit lonely at a weekend so thought stupidly it would be a good idea to install Tinder. I literally didn't realise how horrendous OLD is. I did match with lots of meh but all the conversations were awful. I matched with a Nigerian bloke who was intense, but I can't explain it, he had the most beautiful eyes and I was drawn to him, his personality was electrifying, he had the darkest sense of humour I'd ever met. I put a lot of the outrageous stuff he said down to cultural differences. He told me his relationship with his child's mother ended because he had a threesome with 2 Romanian women from work whilst she was pregnant. This is where I am obviously an idiot at ignoring red flags. I thought it was refreshing how honest he was. I'd never met someone who'd just come out with something like that. Anyway I told him It would only be casual between us because of my kids, my degree and he lived 1.30 hours away. Straight away he went mad saying no he wanted a relationship. I said no and cooled it off. Then he tried popping up lots saying hi. Eventually over Christmas I missed him. So I reached out as we'd been speaking for 3 months at this point. His attitude changed saying he no longer wanted a relationship
and if I wanted to see him it would now be casual. He told me from the start he was a bad person and toxic and tried to push me away. He would ask me to send him nudes, when I refused he'd block me then pop back up as if nothing had happened. I felt like he was very childlike. We actually have similar personalities as in humour and beliefs etc. the conversations were good.

I met him and we had sex, he'd had a lot of sexual partners that he'd told me about so I'd made him do an sti test. I booked a hotel, I wouldn't say he raped me but he was very rough and I tried to push him off a bit as it was too intense for someone I'd just met in person. I'm not sure if I'd have said no that he would have stopped. I bled a little afterwards. Anyway we'd gone out drinking and he was actually very fun and sociable but I thought " what had I done?" It's the first interracial relationship id had, so it was all exciting and different. I didn't think I'd hear off him again. I did, he messaged me straight away. Panic set in when I thought the STI test he'd done may have been old etc. so i asked if he'd had sex with anyone else after the test. Or if the test was recent. He went nuts and instead of reassuring me, he told me I was toxic and he wasn't sure if my behaviour was ok.

I was at work and I had a massive panic attack, he started to use this push pull method to keep me hooked and off balance. I can't explain how it's happened but now I know he's actually a narcissist. I always got the vibe he hated women, he had a strained relationship with his mum that he refused to speak about.

anyway this has been going on for 10 months now, at first my mental health was so bad I was in bed with anxiety for 8 weeks on and off. When he blocked me I used to beg him to talk. Then eventually when I learned what was going on I stopped. I went back to tinder and tried to meet someone else. I've had dates with others, I never like anyone as they all seem boring and the ones I do fancy usually have issues too.

I met a lovely Jamaica man who was 37 but he'd never had a gf. He was nice and knowledgeable about lots of different things. But apparently he can't tolerate people around him for long periods. He said women are clingy and he doesn't like it when people text him every day, again another red flag. I had sex with him a few times then realised he would never ejsculate as he had a phobia of getting women pregnant so would just stop mid sex! 🤦‍♀️ I confronted him about it and he got really funny and said no one else had ever noticed, or if they did hadn't said. he'd be really rude and pick out my imperfections, he told me I had a wonky tooth and chubby cheeks and dry hands. I took him on a day trip to a theme park as he hadn't been to one since he was 18. He didn't give me any money towards petrol, or parking and he starting having a meltdown due to the queues, a teenager talking too much and the ride home he was at braking point due to road diversions.That's when it dawned on me he probably is autistic. His memory is super weird, he's like having an encyclopaedia. He is a proper introvert. The problem is I really liked him and he took my mind off the narcissistic. The problem is with him it's casual as he's made it clear he doesn't do relationships. I get the vibe I annoy him. I have ADHD.

We had an argument as he was rude to me abd I called him out on the way he spoke to me and I lost my head. I removed him off fb and instagram. We were friends on fb before and I noticed nearly all his friends were women. He'd liked most of their photos, like nearly all the women's photis. So I called him out and said I can't believe how he can criticise my appearance when the women's photos he liked were really rough. Not blowing my own trumpet but I'm quite attractive and clean looking 😂 He denied liking any photos and then removed all the likes. I thought he was being ridiculous and he was single so could do as he pleased. It really offended him. I apologised but he's blocked me on WhatsApp.

Now I'm filled with the void again. Tinder is horrendous, conversations don't go anywhere, men are either boring or just want sex. I'm fed up of getting to know new people for it just to lead nowhere. I don't actually fancy anyone either. The only two men I've liked are these two and they both have massive issues. If I delete the apps I get like withdrawals. If I swipe I get so depressed as I keep thinking I'm going to be alone forever. I just don't know what to do. I can't ever keep the narcissist blocked for good as I'm addicted ti him. It turned really toxic towards the end as I started giving him a lot of grief back and contacted his ex. That then gave me the adrenaline that my ADHD loves. I feel hopeless and just want to be happy.

sorry for the long post.

OP posts:
SchoolDilemma17 · 14/08/2025 18:49

You need therapy not these men in your life.

Nosdacariad · 14/08/2025 18:55

So sorry for the loss of your husband. I think some nasty men on tinder can spot that vulnerability.

Look out for my ex who's on there, he won't improve your hit rate. "Still driven and ambitious" ...to watch tv and videos on his phone 24/7.

pilates · 14/08/2025 18:57

Agree with the above, a therapist will help with your low self esteem.

MiloMinderbinder925 · 14/08/2025 18:58

OP please delete all the dating apps and do the Freedom Programme.

I'm assuming your marriage was dysfunctional as you are very tolerant of very bad behaviour and completely ignore red flags. You're also very trusting too soon into meeting people and it's getting you into trouble.

Mayflower282 · 14/08/2025 18:59

Have you taken an STD test? Sorry you’ve had such awful experiences 😔

BCBird · 14/08/2025 19:03

OP I think you need to focus on you. Spend time with friends and be your own inner cheerleader before embarking on a relationship. My partner of 2.5y took his own life. It's been devastating. We did not have children. Please put yourself first so you know your own worth.

TwistedWonder · 14/08/2025 19:07

Agree you need therapy and other distractions to film your time as you’re absolutely not in the right headspace for dating.

You're finding the worst men possible and allowing them to treat you like shit - your already poor self esteem will be completely destroying if you keep following this self destructive path.

Bee8988 · 14/08/2025 19:23

Thanks all. I am paying privately for therapy. She's going back to childhood. Basically I had a loving family but my parents were in their 40s I was very lonely as a child. So she is pointing to all this stemming from there.

my husband was perfect for 13 years, teetotal infact. He had an abusive childhood and his mum left him. His issues started in in 30s. I think his addiction caused the most damage as he would disappear frequently and it would leave me feeling panicky. When I met the narcissist it took me straight back there.

it's weird as lately I've found myself sticking up for myself mote. But it doesn't last and I start to miss the two that were emotionally unavailable. It's like I still believe if I love them enough I can fix them of their autism and narcissism. It's ridiculous I know. Weirdly enough before I joined tinder, I loved my life, I felt happy and finally free. I feel like I've messed it all up again 😔.

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Beachtastic · 14/08/2025 19:29

Sorry about your DH. And about this chaotic dating history!

Online dating sounds absolutely toxic. I always recommend smaller music festivals for meeting people (that's how I met my now-DH). For a start, musical preferences can open up common ground. And at a festival you can slip easily in and out of chatting with strangers, and lose them in the crowd if you want to.

I used to go alone, not with the intention of finding any romance but just to have fun and catch up on lost time (I sort of missed out on the "fun" years in my first marriage). I was a bundle of nerves when I first went alone, in my little tent, but soon got the hang of it and enjoyed the pioneer spirit of it.

Bee8988 · 14/08/2025 19:32

And yes I had an STI test straight away after the night with the Nigerian. Then I did another a month ago to check I hadn't developed HIV. I had such bad health anxiety waiting for the results. My head then made me think that I shouldn't have doubted him as he wasn't lying about having a test.

his ex told me that that he'd given her Gonorrhoea. He told her it must have been before they met, however she found out about the threesome and he'd been on swingers sites..he'd blamed her as he said it's because she didn't dress up for him as she was pregnant.

he must have done a job on her too as she was still kind of defending him, even though she did eventually leave. When I was running him down she was saying " can you not say that, he's still my child's dad" 🤦‍♀️ he made her that mentally unwell fate she had the baby, she refused to speak to him so he called the police on her to do a welfare check as he told them she had mental health issues and he was worried about their child's safety.

OP posts:
ToKittyornottoKitty · 14/08/2025 19:35

You need to stay single for your sake and also for your kids, they’ve been through more than enough and the teen years are hard. Take care of yourself and focus on friendships

Bee8988 · 15/08/2025 13:13

You're right but when I delete the apps or don't have anyone to talk to, I then feel like this massive void! It's like I've become addicted to them, however; as I've said I don't really ever fancy anyone and all the men I do, seem to be damaged!

how can I go back to being content on my own now?

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MounjaroMounjaro · 15/08/2025 13:24

Honestly, all this is really damaging you. You don't seem to be able to keep away from people who are covered in red flags.

I know a counsellor wants to focus on your past, but it's your present that's so concerning. I'm worried you could end up dead as a result of missing red flags.

Did you have MH problems before your husband died? Suicide is an explosion in a family - you really need to be there for your children and put them first.

MiloMinderbinder925 · 15/08/2025 13:28

Bee8988 · 15/08/2025 13:13

You're right but when I delete the apps or don't have anyone to talk to, I then feel like this massive void! It's like I've become addicted to them, however; as I've said I don't really ever fancy anyone and all the men I do, seem to be damaged!

how can I go back to being content on my own now?

Edited

Freedom Programme to learn about healthy relationships:
https://www.freedomprogramme.co.uk/

Cruse Bereavement counselling
https://www.cruse.org.uk/

Support after suicide
https://uksobs.com/

Cruse Bereavement Support

Grief can be overwhelming - you don't have to deal with it alone. Cruse Bereavement Support is here. Call our helpline or chat online.

https://www.cruse.org.uk

InWithPeaceOutWithStress · 15/08/2025 13:33

Change your language, you’re not addicted to these men, you are currently hyper focusing on them. As soon as you start hyper focusing on something else you’ll forget all about them. You need to throw yourself into something totally different, for example rock climbing or traveling.

Maddy70 · 15/08/2025 13:43

Honestly get off the apps and get yourself an sti test.
Join meet up groups instead, make friends, some of which will be nice men

Thedoorisalwaysopen · 15/08/2025 14:04

You definitely need to be working on your own self esteem and processing your loss OP. Sleeping around is not going to help anyone. Your children ultimately need you. They have already lost one parent.

SquirrelSoShiny · 15/08/2025 14:11

Are you on ADHD meds? Abusive men are a real risk to women with ADHD, the intermittent rewards spike our dopamine, hence the addictive thing. Medication might help bring things into balance. Please keep doing your therapy, you deserve a good life with your children. They need you safe and well ❤️

Meandmyguy · 15/08/2025 14:14

Dud you have unprotected sex?

iamnotalemon · 15/08/2025 14:14

Spend some time being single and working on yourself. If you are trying to fill a void then you will be attracting unsuitable men x

alwaysthesamechild · 15/08/2025 14:23

Learning to be happy and content alone is your first task here and should be part of your therapy.

Bee8988 · 15/08/2025 14:35

Yes I've had two clear STI tests. I've only had sex with 2 people in nearly 3 years.

I definitely think part of it has a lot to do with the ADHD. I find normal people boring.

also I've never invited any of these men into my house, it's more of an online/texting thing.

I started off with the intention of just wanting to go out for drinks and just meeting new people to see where it went. I just didn't know how awful online dating is. Most men on there are just after sex or have some weird issues hence why they are on there I guess.

I do need to shift my focus, I know. It's just hard now. Crazy bit is I still feel drawn to the narcissistic one, even though I know how toxic he is. I really wish I'd never gone on the apps.

i just don't think it's that easy to meet anyone in real life anymore. I don't go out that much and when I do, I don't think people really approach others anymore.

OP posts:
Bee8988 · 15/08/2025 14:39

MounjaroMounjaro · 15/08/2025 13:24

Honestly, all this is really damaging you. You don't seem to be able to keep away from people who are covered in red flags.

I know a counsellor wants to focus on your past, but it's your present that's so concerning. I'm worried you could end up dead as a result of missing red flags.

Did you have MH problems before your husband died? Suicide is an explosion in a family - you really need to be there for your children and put them first.

I met my husband when I was 17, I always had anxiety etc. he was fab at looking after me. I think most of this started with his drug addiction not the suicide.

drug addiction is hell to live with, full of ups and downs. The suicide actually made everything a bit more calm. As horrendous as that sounds a life without addiction is very peaceful.

OP posts:
ToKittyornottoKitty · 15/08/2025 18:02

Bee8988 · 15/08/2025 14:35

Yes I've had two clear STI tests. I've only had sex with 2 people in nearly 3 years.

I definitely think part of it has a lot to do with the ADHD. I find normal people boring.

also I've never invited any of these men into my house, it's more of an online/texting thing.

I started off with the intention of just wanting to go out for drinks and just meeting new people to see where it went. I just didn't know how awful online dating is. Most men on there are just after sex or have some weird issues hence why they are on there I guess.

I do need to shift my focus, I know. It's just hard now. Crazy bit is I still feel drawn to the narcissistic one, even though I know how toxic he is. I really wish I'd never gone on the apps.

i just don't think it's that easy to meet anyone in real life anymore. I don't go out that much and when I do, I don't think people really approach others anymore.

What about your children in all of this? What about what they need?

TwistedWonder · 15/08/2025 18:10

Honestly OP you really need to start thinking of your DC because your behaviour is absolutely reckless. You’re putting yourself at risk of sexual assault - which tbh it sounds like it’s already happened - STI’s and potentially even worse. You’re having unprotected sex with men waving red flags right in your face. You talk casually about having STI tests rather than use protection. You’re meeting stranger in hotel rooms for sex - do you truly not understand the danger you’re putting v yourself in?

Sorry if this sounds harsh but your DC have already lost one parent - pl see don’t keep putting yourself in risky situations and leave them without any living parents.