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How to stop struggling and finally leave a relationship that is not good to me?

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OrangeFairytales · 13/08/2025 23:52

I’m a woman who recently turned 40. I’ve been in a relationship with a man for about 8 months. One thing that’s really important to mention is that I’m extremely sapiosexual, and that’s probably why this relationship has been confusing me from the very beginning. I’m 40 and he is 40. We are both divorced but want a family and kids, so we are looking for a partner to start a family with. This goal is mutual.
We met in the winter. Right away, the physical chemistry wasn’t there. He’s not my type physically. I’m more active, sporty, and social. He lives a much more sedentary life, is slightly overweight, and has some minor health complaints that are clearly related to lifestyle. But intellectually, he completely blew me away. I didn’t always agree with him, but he’s incredibly successful at work, runs a few businesses, just defended his PhD, and is well-traveled. His stories pulled me in. I could listen for hours.
My life is a little different. I have a stable, well-paid job, but I’m not a workaholic. I value presence and connection more than ambition or chasing success. I value calm living far more than chasing success. But around him, I’m drawn in. That intellectual stimulation hooked me. I think that’s what brought us together, despite all our differences.
The problem is that I now see more clearly that my emotional needs are not being met. I don’t think they ever will be. Our lifestyles are also incredibly different.
Since early on, I’ve felt a low-level anxiety around him—not butterflies or excitement, but confusion and tension I couldn’t name. Now I realize that anxiety was probably my unmet needs trying to make themselves heard.
There are things about him that really unsettle me. From the beginning, he told me he doesn’t have close friends and believes friendships only last while shared interests last. That was somewhat of a red flag for me. I understand that sometimes people have to cut certain family members off from their lives due to toxicity, but in his case, the relationships didn’t seem very toxic. I deeply value long-term relationships and feel that friendship is the root of love. He has lost touch with every friend over time. He doesn’t speak with his siblings and has a polite but distant relationship with his mother. He genuinely says he doesn’t need friends and that his partner should fulfill most of his needs. To be fair, he is not totally aloof. Due to his high-level status and job, he knows many people, is often recognized in the city when we walk, and meets with business acquaintances quite often. He also has acquaintances through his hobbies, which are military-related. He loves having intellectual discussions with these people, and they meet often.
But I feel very isolated sometimes in this relationship. He’s never made an effort to meet my friends or family. He rarely asks about them and seems to only care about what they do for work. He doesn’t join group dinners or any social events. It’s like the rest of my life doesn’t exist when we’re together. I’ve tried to mention several times that this is important to me, but I haven’t seen much effort to integrate it into his life. Also, due to our lifestyle differences, my life has become more sedentary than before. He rarely prefers walking even short distances over driving. Our mutual rest usually means renting a very expensive hotel and then literally spending almost the entire day there. He reads the news or a book, and I get incredibly bored. Sure, I could go for a walk by myself, but I feel like I’m also becoming a little lazier with him and would like to do mutual activities together.
Another issue is how sensitive he is to even the smallest suggestions. I’ve learned to walk on eggshells around him (I may be exaggerating a little, but I don’t know how to express myself better). I’m someone who values honesty and gentle communication, but even when I’m careful, he often feels criticized or insulted. Recently, he was planning to drive his pets to the vet and I saw there was roadwork on his route. I mentioned it and suggested a detour. He got upset and said I was treating him like a child. He said it made him feel like I don’t admire him or trust him to solve things on his own. He often talks about needing to feel admired and validated. I try to be supportive, but I also need to feel like I can speak honestly without tiptoeing every time I have an opinion.
Our sex life reflects some of these emotional patterns too. On the surface, our sex life is active and frequent, but to be honest, something has been feeling really off for me since quite early on. Every sexual encounter follows exactly the same routine. It’s incredibly predictable and has started to feel more draining than fulfilling. We start with some manual stimulation, I go down on him, then I’m on top, and then the cycle repeats. We’ve never tried any other positions, not even the most basic ones like missionary or from behind. One position in six months—me on top. He’s also never given me oral, although he loves it very much when I do it for him and expresses that clearly. Most of the time, he pleasures me with his hands and then I am able to orgasm, which interests him a lot. I’ve gently brought up the idea of trying new things or receiving oral from him, being kissed elsewhere than on the lips and nipples only, but nothing has changed. He says that, for instance, giving oral isn’t his thing, but he loves receiving it as a sign of admiration. He listens to what I say but nothing really changes. He responds with “yes, okay, you may like it, but it’s not my thing,” and our routine continues just the same. He struggles to finish and needs a lot of hand stimulation, which I suspect might be linked to his blood pressure medication (beta blockers). But we haven’t really had an open conversation about it and I’m now afraid to bring it up because he may feel criticized even more. He also seems more focused on the kinkier side of sex, such as handcuffs, nipple clamps, asking me to walk around naked, or driving with restraints. While I enjoy playful kink, it’s starting to feel one-sided and lacking the emotional element and playfulness. The emotional intimacy I crave just isn’t there. Neither is reciprocation in bed. It feels like the sex we have is more about the performance of kink than a mutual, connected experience. When I ask what turns him on, his answers are often about control or visual stimulation, never about closeness or emotional connection. While we sleep together, though, he always acts in cute ways and hugs me.
There are many other things that don’t match. Our approaches to cleaning or our ways of handling daily life. Normally, I am someone who tries to find joy in the simple things in life, but with him I find it hardly possible. Evening or morning walks aren’t there, cooking together isn’t there most of the time. He hates cleaning, so it’s usually me doing it. He doesn’t ask me, but he hires a house cleaner twice a week. Still, with two huge dogs, I can’t stand the mess in between cleaning days. He has a huge backyard with a terrace where we could spend evenings together romantically, but he allows his dogs to poop there, so it’s not possible. When I brought this up, he said the dogs are his everything and he doesn’t want to clean the backyard, so we shouldn’t spend time there together. Period.
And yet I stay. I also know my reasons.
I think I stay because of the intellectual stimulation. Those conversations make me feel alive. Therapy is also helping me realize how much of this dynamic is tied to my past. I grew up with emotional neglect, especially from my father. My parents were cold, and I was often shamed for how I looked. Now, even though I know better, I still feel deeply flattered when someone chooses me and compliments me. This man (accomplished and rich) validates me in a way that hits something old inside me. I also learned that I have a pattern of mistaking anxiety for chemistry. That emotional confusion feels familiar. It’s like I’ve been trained to associate that uncertainty with attraction. Even though I’m aware of it, it’s hard to break free. I grew up in a family that faced financial struggles. In this relationship, that’s not an issue. I am a working woman with a good job, but maybe it’s my childhood trauma speaking again.
Help me understand why I am struggling so much to leave and how to leave him sooner? What has helped you when you realized in a relationship that wasn't good for you? I’m starting to feel depressed about the whole situation. Many many thanks!

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OrangeFairytales · 15/08/2025 22:51

Sunnygin · 15/08/2025 15:57

Turd with wealth sprinkles....😅🤣 brilliant....

Skipped this one. Yeah...

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OrangeFairytales · 16/08/2025 10:43

It would be nice if people who had to undergo such a situation of detachment from someone who wasn't good to them could share their tips. Because I know this is not a good situation to be in at all, yet I feel that I can't break it off, there's something that holds me.

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mintydoggyv · 16/08/2025 11:08

This is not for you , very possibly the wrong person for you . Do what you must ,don't get hurt please

OrangeFairytales · 16/08/2025 14:05

mintydoggyv · 16/08/2025 11:08

This is not for you , very possibly the wrong person for you . Do what you must ,don't get hurt please

Yes, I know, but how when you're massively attached...

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Catoo · 16/08/2025 16:37

OrangeFairytales · 16/08/2025 14:05

Yes, I know, but how when you're massively attached...

Try therapy OP.
You’re attached to who you think he is or wanted him to be.
Once you accept that, it’s easier to let them go and rebuild.

TwistedWonder · 16/08/2025 16:46

It’s only been 7 months in a relationship with someone you’re completely incompatible with. You don’t live together so it’s not a difficult situation to end.

You tell him it’s not working for you and that the relationship is over. You then go no contact and block if that’s easier for you and you go through the stages after break up where things feel shit at first but time heals.

Why would you stay in a relationship that’s not working and isn’t making you happy?

ThatAquaRobin · 16/08/2025 16:52

OrangeFairytales · 16/08/2025 10:43

It would be nice if people who had to undergo such a situation of detachment from someone who wasn't good to them could share their tips. Because I know this is not a good situation to be in at all, yet I feel that I can't break it off, there's something that holds me.

I wish I could help you. I just had to get rid of a guy I adored and loved. Although I admit it may have been infatuation. Sex was amazing and he adored me at first. But I think in his case the problems are alcohol and drugs.
I still love him and long for him to contact me but I know it was the right thing to do.
The only tips I can give you are delete and block. Ruthlessly..I've deleted my Instagram account and deleted his number from WhatsApp. Also deleted my WhatsApp back up so I don't have ANY record of his number.
Sympathy.
TBH the only thing that I think will get me over him is meeting someone else.
Maybe that might be the same for you.

MarxistMags · 16/08/2025 16:53

Time to cut your losses and start again. You don't need any stress.

OrangeFairytales · 16/08/2025 17:37

Catoo · 16/08/2025 16:37

Try therapy OP.
You’re attached to who you think he is or wanted him to be.
Once you accept that, it’s easier to let them go and rebuild.

I'm already in therapy, thanks. It's helping, but I'm full of childhood trauma and it takes time to heal...

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OrangeFairytales · 16/08/2025 17:38

ThatAquaRobin · 16/08/2025 16:52

I wish I could help you. I just had to get rid of a guy I adored and loved. Although I admit it may have been infatuation. Sex was amazing and he adored me at first. But I think in his case the problems are alcohol and drugs.
I still love him and long for him to contact me but I know it was the right thing to do.
The only tips I can give you are delete and block. Ruthlessly..I've deleted my Instagram account and deleted his number from WhatsApp. Also deleted my WhatsApp back up so I don't have ANY record of his number.
Sympathy.
TBH the only thing that I think will get me over him is meeting someone else.
Maybe that might be the same for you.

Thanks darling. I don't even think it's love on my behalf, more of a trauma bond.

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mintydoggyv · 16/08/2025 18:11

OrangeFairytales · 16/08/2025 14:05

Yes, I know, but how when you're massively attached...

Yes l agree but it seems you are not happy either ,it would be painfull but in the long term would you want to be hurt , you could at least think of the best course of action to take no lady should be unhappy long term it could affect your own health

OrangeFairytales · 16/08/2025 23:01

mintydoggyv · 16/08/2025 18:11

Yes l agree but it seems you are not happy either ,it would be painfull but in the long term would you want to be hurt , you could at least think of the best course of action to take no lady should be unhappy long term it could affect your own health

Thank you, resonates deeply. I'm already feeling less and less happy every day.

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OrangeFairytales · 17/08/2025 20:31

MarxistMags · 16/08/2025 16:53

Time to cut your losses and start again. You don't need any stress.

This is indeed giving me so much stress.

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chatgptsbestmate · 17/08/2025 20:41

OrangeFairytales · 16/08/2025 14:05

Yes, I know, but how when you're massively attached...

You're not attached to him. You say you are, but you're not. You know he's completely wrong for you and you seem to be feeding off his toxic energy to try to give you emotional support. Which is just yuk.....and you know it's just yuk.

He is a sticking plaster which you need to rip off .....the healing this will give you will be really beautiful imo

TripTrapSnipSnap · 17/08/2025 20:46

To be honest, you just stop agonising about it and get on with doing it.

There's no other option.

He's not all that. You only like him for his status. Even the intellectual stimulation is unlikely to be at the root of your attraction to him, that's just the more palatable narrative you want to tell yourself.

You just pick up a foot, take a step, then pick up the other one and repeat.

He's not your father and he's not going to fill that void.

TripTrapSnipSnap · 17/08/2025 20:49

And for the love of god don't even think about bringing a child into this deeply dysfunctional dynamic.

winter8090 · 18/08/2025 07:10

Your overthinking this.
You know he isn’t for you and your not happy but your clinging on the the only positive thing about him.

“I’m sorry this relationship isn’t working for me”
Then leave.

OneNewLeader · 18/08/2025 07:18

If you can’t leave, go low contact, I think he’ll leave. He wants to be admired, once you stop doing that, he’ll move on.

Then get therapy, if this is a recurring situation you need to manage that.

Theworstgamerever · 13/11/2025 11:05

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OrangeFairytales · 16/08/2025 10:43

It would be nice if people who had to undergo such a situation of detachment from someone who wasn't good to them could share their tips. Because I know this is not a good situation to be in at all, yet I feel that I can't break it off, there's something that holds me.

What is the worst that can happen if you leave? What do you fear the most, as i reckon this is what keeps you there. Take pen and paper and write down every horrible thing that your imagination tells you will happen.

Put it away for a bit and then review. And analyse logically. How much of what you’ve written is based on reality? How much is irrational and perhaps rooted somewhere in your chidhood experiences?

Is there anything you’ll genuinely miss about being with him if you split?

If you were to stay and had a child- what kind of a father you’d like him to be? Active, caring, emotionally engaged with his child? Hows that likely to work out when he only needs a partner, everyone else is redundant? Is he likely to look after you after giving birth, e.g. be caring, offer to take over so you can rest for a but? Offer emotional support if it all gets too much? Is he going to clean up the dog shit so your child can play outside?

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 15/11/2025 14:21

I didn’t even read all of it but I wonder why you can’t just text him saying ‘I’m not happy with this relationship anymore so I’m ending it here, I wish you all the best, take care.’ You don’t have to do it face to face. Don’t feel guilty cutting him off when he clearly cuts off anyone /everyone and would do to you in a heartbeat.
there maybe som narcissist traits in him from your descriptions and the way he’s hooked you in and made you ignore your own needs. Well done for realising what’s going on though and not let your desire for a baby quash your gut instinct.
please leave him and date other men/ pursue single mum life with a sperm donor if your super keen for a child.
remember you didn’t even know this guy in the spring and you can live without him perfectly fine!
one little message is all it takes then maybe even block him.

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 15/11/2025 14:25

He would make your life hell via the family courts if you have a child with him

something2say · 15/11/2025 14:27

I think - just wise up. It is clear that this man is very interesting as a person, but not the right chemistry for you for long term.

Sit down and work out a plan on what to do and then do it. You value cleverness yes? Then be it.

As wise older women, we can accept that 'everything that is good to look at is not necessarily good to eat' can't we?

How long are you going to hang about 'not' making this decision? You are wasting your family making time!

breezyyy · 15/11/2025 14:36

DoRayMeMeMe · 14/08/2025 06:40

Just leave.

He isn’t very admirable at all, is he.

Sapiosexual is such a wanky term. I get it, but men who use that term always always have other much deeper problems, as you’re discovering.

Fundamentally this guy is a turd with wealth sprinkles.
”I need to be admired” . He needs to be laughed at!

I thought the OP used that term? Perhaps he did too - I couldn’t read it all. Way too much navel gazing for an 8 month relationship OP. What a waste of time when you could be busy finding someone more compatible.

breezyyy · 15/11/2025 14:41

OrangeFairytales · 16/08/2025 10:43

It would be nice if people who had to undergo such a situation of detachment from someone who wasn't good to them could share their tips. Because I know this is not a good situation to be in at all, yet I feel that I can't break it off, there's something that holds me.

Are you fearful about time running out on starting a family?

Have you lost confidence in yourself?

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