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End of the road?

21 replies

foxfern · 10/08/2025 19:10

How do you know it's the end of a marriage, when there hasn't been some definitive awful thing happen?

To set the scene a bit, we are middle-aged with old teen/young adult children all still at home. And I'm going to be honest here, I've not been at all easy to live with whilst going through the menopause the last 5 years. I'm pretty much out the other side now, but I think the damage is done. I'm just not really the same person anymore, and I don't think he likes who I am anymore.

That's just one thing though that's been like a background hum to the last 5 years - we've also delt with losing a parent each, him being made redundant twice and struggling to get a decent job since, meaning we have taken a huge salary hit, and we are both working 2 jobs each, including the weekends. It's been really hard and I became very depressed and anxious. In the last 2 years Ive been on anti-depressants and put on a lot of weight. And with all of that, our sex life has completely dwindled to nothing.

He was very ill recently (now recovered) and I cared for him whilst trying to keep everything else afloat. To be honest, I found it very hard. He really appreciated it at the time, said I deserved to be spoilt etc when he was better, but instead I feel like I'm just drowning in to-do lists now that he's better and he's signed off work till September so he's gone to Scotland to stay with his Mum for the rest of August.

To be honest I feel really lonely. He is terrible at communicating, but before he went to Scotland he said I never stop whining. I was v hurt because I had just spent weeks caring for him. I think it's true though, I do seem to complain a lot these days. I just find life as a midlife woman really bloody hard.

I feel like we are trapped together though as we have no money. It's not like him or I could go and live elsewhere. I do love him, as the father of our children, but I don't think it's more than that anymore, we are so different. But I would keep trying, if he committed to trying too.....but perhaps it's too late. I'd love to hear from anyone who might have been through anything similar or has any thoughts or advice.

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7catsisnotenough · 10/08/2025 19:37

Hi OP, nearly 10 years married and feeling like I've been friend zoned - life's too short 😞

tarheelbaby · 10/08/2025 19:46

Wow! You and your DH have been through some really tough times. Will he recover from his illness? Will recuperating at his mum's send him back to you in good form or is his illness too much for that? Will he want to make the effort to be a husband? Will you want to match that as a wife?
Lots of couples run out of steam. You say that you're not the same person anymore and that's understandable. Your DH has apparently been through a lot now too. He might be feeling very different.
What are the positives? Are you both well enough to try 'dating'? Can you and he find a way to live together even if you're more housemates?

(My DH went through at time of being very ill and we never really recovered. He just wasn't up for 'dating'. )

Justchilling07 · 10/08/2025 19:52

Hiya op, really feel for you.I’m following x

foxfern · 10/08/2025 19:53

Well that's partly the problem. I don't think I've been friend-zoned - we don't even feel like friends. If I talk to him he mostly ignores me. If I ask him why he doesn't reply, he just says he has nothing to say or add.

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foxfern · 10/08/2025 19:57

And re 'dates', I've suggested things, but he doesn't seem to want to.

He hasn't gone to his mums to recover, he is basically ok now really, he has just gone to spend time with his family which I'm ok with, although a month is a long time!

I was wondering about counselling together, but of course that will cost money. We have been arguing a lot, but recently we just don't really even talk much. I do try, but he seems to prefer watching sport or watching you tube on his phone. He's very good at ignoring the problem.

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foxfern · 10/08/2025 19:59

7catsisnotenough · 10/08/2025 19:37

Hi OP, nearly 10 years married and feeling like I've been friend zoned - life's too short 😞

Sorry I replied upthread but forgot to add your quote. I'm not practised on forums!!

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foxfern · 10/08/2025 20:00

tarheelbaby · 10/08/2025 19:46

Wow! You and your DH have been through some really tough times. Will he recover from his illness? Will recuperating at his mum's send him back to you in good form or is his illness too much for that? Will he want to make the effort to be a husband? Will you want to match that as a wife?
Lots of couples run out of steam. You say that you're not the same person anymore and that's understandable. Your DH has apparently been through a lot now too. He might be feeling very different.
What are the positives? Are you both well enough to try 'dating'? Can you and he find a way to live together even if you're more housemates?

(My DH went through at time of being very ill and we never really recovered. He just wasn't up for 'dating'. )

Hi I replied upthread but forgot to add your quote! I'm not very knowledgeable about how these forums work!!

Thanks for all your thoughts:)

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foxfern · 10/08/2025 20:03

7catsisnotenough · 10/08/2025 19:37

Hi OP, nearly 10 years married and feeling like I've been friend zoned - life's too short 😞

I'm sorry. I agree life is too short. I think for me, I am too scared to acknowledge it might be over. I'm ok with being on my own, but I didn't want to fail at marriage.

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7catsisnotenough · 10/08/2025 20:15

@foxfernI scared too - there's nothing obviously wrong but it's not right 😞😞

foxfern · 10/08/2025 20:19

7catsisnotenough · 10/08/2025 20:15

@foxfernI scared too - there's nothing obviously wrong but it's not right 😞😞

Awww, it's a horrible feeling isn't it. I don't know about you but I'm not good with change. But also feel I just can't go on like this.

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Crazymayfly · 10/08/2025 22:36

@foxfern i felt like you too - I didn’t want to fail at marriage as most of my family ended up divorced and I was determined that wouldn’t be me. ExH had three affairs. After first I really tried - him not so much though he said the right words. Second time my mind set started to change and after the third I was just done with it. Decided it wasn’t worth it for my MH.

Don’t get me wrong - there’s no animosity here, and we’ve found a place of strange friendship as we have known each other a long time. But it took a while to get to this place. Now we can go out with our grown adult children and our new partners and it’s all good.

Sometimes a relationship just runs its course as you grown apart and not together - that’s cheesy but true.

You’ve years left where you can have a happy life, and when or if you feel up to it, you might even find a lovely man.

LittleJustice · 10/08/2025 23:23

I left my marriage after 32 years last year under similar circumstances. Honestly I am having the best time of my life in my mid 50s. I'm completely flourishing ✨️

I've had some great dates, some snogging and sex. I am now with someone new who is everything my ex lacked. I feel like I'm living my life rather than simply existing.

foxfern · 11/08/2025 07:31

Crazymayfly · 10/08/2025 22:36

@foxfern i felt like you too - I didn’t want to fail at marriage as most of my family ended up divorced and I was determined that wouldn’t be me. ExH had three affairs. After first I really tried - him not so much though he said the right words. Second time my mind set started to change and after the third I was just done with it. Decided it wasn’t worth it for my MH.

Don’t get me wrong - there’s no animosity here, and we’ve found a place of strange friendship as we have known each other a long time. But it took a while to get to this place. Now we can go out with our grown adult children and our new partners and it’s all good.

Sometimes a relationship just runs its course as you grown apart and not together - that’s cheesy but true.

You’ve years left where you can have a happy life, and when or if you feel up to it, you might even find a lovely man.

Thank you so much. I feel this rings true 'grown apart rather than together'.

I would love us to recapture our friendship if we parted ways. He's been my best friend for decades, but sadly even that has been damaged over the last few years.

When I think of my future, I see myself alone but happy - living a very simple life by the sea in a caravan. It just pops into my head. I think he could return to Scotland to live, because I know that's his dream.

Thank you, your post has given me some hope that we can both still be happy, maybe even happier if we are not together.

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Lionness5 · 11/08/2025 07:33

7catsisnotenough · 10/08/2025 19:37

Hi OP, nearly 10 years married and feeling like I've been friend zoned - life's too short 😞

This is always used the wrong way around.

Life is too long to spend it so unhappy.

Lionness5 · 11/08/2025 07:35

Daft to think if you split you have failed at marriage. You're just failing at doing what is right for you and putting yourself first. You're not a single person in this marriage, do you think he's worried about looking like he's failed? No.

foxfern · 11/08/2025 07:36

LittleJustice · 10/08/2025 23:23

I left my marriage after 32 years last year under similar circumstances. Honestly I am having the best time of my life in my mid 50s. I'm completely flourishing ✨️

I've had some great dates, some snogging and sex. I am now with someone new who is everything my ex lacked. I feel like I'm living my life rather than simply existing.

Wow, thank you for this.

I have been with my husband for 28 years. I sometimes think it's pretty natural to change over that time, and not feel the same!

I'm so happy for you, and so encouraged. Thanks! This sentence is really standing out for me 'I'm living my life rather than just existing'. I 100% feel I am just existing right now and have been for the last at least 5 years.

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foxfern · 11/08/2025 07:39

Lionness5 · 11/08/2025 07:35

Daft to think if you split you have failed at marriage. You're just failing at doing what is right for you and putting yourself first. You're not a single person in this marriage, do you think he's worried about looking like he's failed? No.

I'm a child of divorced parents. To be honest I never wanted to get married - mostly because I never wanted to be divorced!

I don't know what he thinks about it. This is a big part of the problem; I have no idea what he thinks any of the time because he rarely speaks to me anymore.

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LittleJustice · 11/08/2025 10:39

When I told my mum and couple of years ago how I was feeling her advice to me was not to say anything as once you did all the years of resentment would pour through like opening the floodgates. I thought what terrible advice. She'd lived in an unhappy marriage until it was too late and so was advising me to do the same.

My thoughts were that no matter what happened I couldn't be any less happy. Watching life slip away. And the thought that there might be another 30 years of the same.

I really was just marking time. Now I do all the things that I want to do. It's liberating and wonderful.

LittleJustice · 11/08/2025 10:41

This song meant a lot as well

https://open.spotify.com/track/5m9BQ7ab9Ji4L2PZlPt7e4?si=M0h754w5QcS1T2W5czg_xQ

We had nothing at all to say to each other. We just didn't communicate at all.

Spotify

https://open.spotify.com/track/5m9BQ7ab9Ji4L2PZlPt7e4?si=M0h754w5QcS1T2W5czg_xQ

Lionness5 · 11/08/2025 12:37

I'm also one year on from divorce after a relationship of 27 years. While he's met someone new before the divorce was barely finalised, I'm doing better than him. I'm not interested in anyone new, don't need a man for anything. Just happy seeing someone for dinner now and then but I'd be fine if I didn't. You get one life. Is he worth giving it over to for another day never mind decade?

BTW no one wants to get divorced. Until they have to.

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