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Is it abuse or just a toxic relationship?

34 replies

Wonderingwanderer99 · 01/08/2025 13:52

Hi everyone,

I’m going through a really confusing and painful time in my relationship, and I’m struggling to name what’s happening. My partner and I have been together for a while, and while he has good qualities, there are patterns that leave me feeling tense, hurt, and constantly on edge.

Some things that happen regularly:

He dismisses or shifts blame when I bring up concerns.

He often criticizes my tone or language instead of addressing the issue.

There’s a lot of verbal belittling, sneering, and raised voices — sometimes insults. I raise my voice too sometimes.

He questions my boundaries and makes me feel like I have to justify myself constantly.

When things get rough, he sometimes acts nice or does small gestures, but the underlying issues aren’t resolved.

I feel anxious and confused a lot, second-guessing myself and my feelings.

I hide my frustration to avoid arguments, but then I feel emotionally distant and guilty.

Sometimes he accuses me of things like “bitching with my mum” or “not wanting to be in the relationship.”

He’s also been aggressive or intimidating at times — yelling in my face or goading me.

I’ve read about emotional abuse and control, and some of this sounds familiar, but I struggle with the idea because he’s “not a bad person” deep down — or at least, that’s what I want to believe.

I want to hear from people who might have been through similar experiences or who understand these dynamics:

Does this sound like emotional abuse or a toxic relationship?

How do you reconcile loving someone with recognizing harmful patterns?

What helped you see the truth clearly?

Thank you for any insights or support. I really need to feel less alone and more confident in understanding what’s going on.

OP posts:
AndiPandiPuddinAndPie · 13/08/2025 17:04

After 15 years of nice /nasty- is it that bad? Is it me? I finally got free, please don’t be me OP. Read You’re Not The Problem by Helen Villiers, best thing I’ve read on the subject (as well as Lundy Bancroft of course)

Is it abuse or just a toxic relationship?
keepingonrunning · 14/08/2025 08:11

I hope you and your baby got out okay yesterday OP and you were able to take your things of value with you.
Now you need to google narcissistic hoovering and go ‘grey rock’ yourself.
You could phone non urgent police on 101 to say you have just left an abusive relationship and they can put a flag on your number for a priority response if you are fearful. Don’t hesitate to phone 999 if you need to.
Think about reporting him for what he has done to you and how he has shown he is unsafe around your baby, so it is on file at this point before any future developments.
It is also a really good idea to tell your GP about what has been happening so they have it on your record there too. It’s fairly standard for H’s type to allege you are mentally unwell and question your ability as a mother whereas leaving shows you have prioritised your baby’s welfare.
Stay strong.

keepingonrunning · 14/08/2025 08:28

Remember you don’t owe him anything.
Information is power. Don’t give him information about you, your life or your plans. You don’t have to respond to his messages and definitely not straight away - break that reflex. If you need to reply because it’s about tying up the loose ends of the relationship keep it brief, stick to facts. You have other priorities now.

Wonderingwanderer99 · 16/08/2025 12:35

We are day 3 of having left and my parents are being amazing. Thanks everyone for the support

OP posts:
Bittenonce · 16/08/2025 14:07

Glad your parents are being supportive. I’m not going to sugar coat it, you’ll probably feel a bit euphoric at times now, just because that weight has been lifted: But there will be some tough days ahead, so just don’t doubt yourself, don’t question that you’ve done the right thing, or whether things will get better. You’ll be good 👍

Sunflowers67 · 16/08/2025 14:53

Good luck with everything and stay strong for your little one.
Having been through similar my top tips would be:

Try not to have any contact with him for a while and get your thoughts and emotions a little more ordered - which is only possible when you are away from them (I'm at month 5 or 6 now and only just starting to see things clearer).

Tell people that you trust - everything! A good friend, family member. Don't sugar coat it - tell it like it is. This is abusive and I'm sorry to say that it probably wont get better and he wont change.

Get lots of sleep and rest, get out in nature, eat properly - look after you.

Educate yourself on men like this - read, watch you tube videos and podcasts about this. The more you learn, the more it will make sense and the less you will blame yourself (which we all do!).

Tell yourself every minute of every day if you have to that this is on him. He chose to act like this and therefore he gets the consequences - that is not on you in any shape or form - no ifs, buts or discussions - this is him.

If he scares you in any way, call 999. It took a few occasions of being scared for me to call them as I felt that I was wasting their time and they wouldn't take it seriously. Or it was my fault. Call 999 if you feel scared!

Keep a journal with dates/times. It does help to sort your head out, its very enlightening to read back through when you have weak moments and you may just need it at a later date.

I am very sorry that you are going through this - there are a lot of us out there, you are not alone and you are about to build a great future for your child that does not involve abuse. Be brave and stay strong.

DiscoBob · 16/08/2025 14:57

Nobody is a 100% Bad person inherently. It makes no difference really even if they are.

They're hurting you and making you feel like shit. Whether intentional, or because they've got issues or a personality disorder or MH problems.

The fact remains they're treating you badly. So get away from them.

MysteryNameChange · 16/08/2025 14:58

Yeah it's abuse.

I've found it hard to reconcile all my happy memories with my ex with his abuse. I tend to think of it as he has lots of lovely things about him but we all have bad parts too and he let the bad parts take over.

The book 'Why does he do that's by Lundy Buncroft has a great section on why abusers abuse. It's mainly because their life is easier when their partner is scared of them. They know what they're doing.

MysteryNameChange · 16/08/2025 15:01

Wonderingwanderer99 · 16/08/2025 12:35

We are day 3 of having left and my parents are being amazing. Thanks everyone for the support

Sorry I annoying didn't read the whole thread. Fantastic, good luck ❤️

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