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Clash with DH over how much financial freedom to give teen DDs

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FinancialPerspectiveNeeded · 30/07/2025 11:19

Two teen DDs, 17 and 13. On the whole, great kids, polite and cooperative. Elder DD very conscientious at school, younger DD less so but finding her feet slowly. Keep their rooms generally clean, help when asked with housework, affectionate, have some nice friends. I have full trust in them and on the whole a great relationship with them.

My DH and I clash on parenting in a few areas, one of which is how much money/financial freedom to give the girls.

He does not really deal with any of the finances at home (he has visibility of it and I share details), I do all the shopping, bill paying, present buying, holiday buying, big house purchases and take a lot of decisions as he does not like dealing with this. We share finances (all income goes into one pot) and we both work in above average paid jobs (him f/t, me p/t and he prefers me to be p/t and take care of house stuff). We have no mortgage and significant savings. I appreciate this puts us in a very lucky position and do not take it for granted.

I grew up with less but 'comfortable'. My father was self employed and lost his job every few years and we had school meals/second hand clothes (when it was far less common) and no second income (SAHM). No private schools, but we had birthdays and Christmases and UK holidays (one or two abroad) and pocket money because my parents were careful and always had some savings. We did not feel too much the effect of the redundancies. My father died 20 years ago and I have a very good relationship with my mother.

My DH grew up with parents who had themselves lived through very tough financial situations. My FIL was the son of a virtually penniless subsistence farmer in rural France with multiple kids. My MIL was abandoned by her husband with 9 kids to look after and received a minimal income from the wider family. Toys were non existant for FIL and bags of nails to make stuff with for MIL. FIL went into the police and climbed the ranks but was not able to let go of his fear of not having money.

His kids (DH and BIL) did receive presents and holidays (not abroad), but DH was once excluded from an overseas school exchange trip (when no other kids were, even from poorer families) as it was deemed an extravagance and not bought any fashionable clothes as teens, but rather the cheapest tracksuit bottoms that were not in fashion and made them a bit embarrassed. Toys were looked down on after a certain age by FIL as 'childish things' and the other kids at school had the latest Lego but not him and his brother.

These acts amongst other things (when my FIL would buy himself latest bikes/equipment for hobbies) has a caused a lot of damage and the relationship between DH/BIL and their parents is strained/polite. They live 5 & 8 hours by car and we see them only about once per year. My MIL is very unhappy with this and has cried about it to me & my girls when she visits (this part of the general dysfunction in the family). DH feels justifiably guilt tripped and resentful.

Sorry for the long background but it is relevant I think.

DH and I have always been frugal but in recent years I have learned to "let go" more of money as I could see it was not necessary to be so frugal.

This has had an impact on how much I buy for and allow my kids to spend. These days there is a lot of marketing to teens, which they are exposed to via phones. So I get a lot of requests for buying bits and pieces like make-up /cosmetics/clothes. They don't go to their father as he will be quite angry with their requests and tell them they are wasteful.

I try to evaluate each request and say no some of the time, but based on my internal 'barometer' which is hard to describe. Sometimes, DH will discover a purchase I have 'allowed' (my 17 year old has a bank card which I put money on) and get very angry. As these are often amounts like under 30/40 pounds I don't confer with him (if they request something more expensive like over 70 pounds or a big gift, I always discuss). None of the spending I allow causes us any financial difficulty and we have never been in debt.

Recently, my DD17 went to London and to a concert to Wembley. We live overseas so we paid the trip but she stayed free with my mother. DH grumbled about the ticket price (135 pounds) and said it should be a Xmas present. I felt it was part of the normal teenage experience to go and didn't agree it should be part of a Xmas present. She went, was euphoric about it, and has asked my permission to buy a souvenir. I OKed it in principle, without checking the prices. In the end she bought two (overpriced) T shirts (that she absolutely loves) but I would have limited her to one - she made the decision alone and I chose not to confront her afterwards but let it go.

My husband saw her wear the second T shirt (he was ok on seeing the first one) and then asked how much they had cost (he guessed over 25 pounds, which was true). My mother was with us and told me that it was a rip off and waste of money and my daughter stormed off.

My husband got very angry saying I am excluding him from the family. I did not get fight back, stayed quiet and said to both him and my mum that I am struggling with how much freedom to allow them and tend to err on the side of being generous. My mum said she thinks I buy them too much. I discussed with him and asked for a rule for how much we need to agree together before we authorise they spend, he suggested 10 pounds. I told him this is really nothing these days, but agreed to it reluctantly.

I love him very much but I am struggling with how to deal with this. I don't think 10 pounds is an amount to discuss in our situation. However, I do want the kids to get some idea of the value of money, which they obviously don't have right now and live in a bubble. My expectation this will come with time when they have their own limited income and learn to make decisions based on that.

I am wondering if I am making a mistake and should put more limits on them?

Sorry for the long story! If you read this far, thank you.

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BabyCatFace · 30/07/2025 13:11

You're both unreasonable but you more so. You're spoiling the 17 year old by giving her pretty much unfettered access to your bank account. She needs to learn to budget. You can agree an allowance with her dad and she gets that. IMO they should be earning at least part of that allowance through some kind of chore.

FinancialPerspectiveNeeded · 30/07/2025 13:12

Minnie798 · 30/07/2025 13:10

It all sounds a bit miserable. What was the point of your dh doing well in a career, working hard to have no mortgage and savings, if not to give your dc's a better child hood than he had? Instead, he's acting like being able to buy nice things is doing something wrong, calling teen girls wanting makeup and clothes wasteful.
Maybe give dc's a set amount of spending money for future social events and then they know what they have available to spend. What they then choose to buy with it is up to them.
I think your dh is being a bit 'tight'.

This is probably the root of my dilemma. We are more comfortable than most. He has worked very hard. I have. We saved a lot. I want to enjoy it now and indulge the kids a bit. But I feel like I might be betraying them / spoiling them at the same time.

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Radioundermypillow · 30/07/2025 13:13

It sounds like money is tied up with a huge amount of emotion for both you and dh. I must say I felt a bit shocked when you said you basically buy your dds whatever they want but you have to know about it to top up a card. Surely you can sit down and work out an average amount then give that monthly as an allowance. Your dds may have to miss out occasionally, but teaching them to budget is a gift OP, not a punishment.

Fwiw my dds are also lovely kids but wouldn't have dreamed of buying two expensive band t shirts with my money. The tickets would have been a birthday or Christmas gift or a special one off present.

I think you AND your dh have a really controlling view of money.

FinancialPerspectiveNeeded · 30/07/2025 13:14

I am taking all your points on board and very grateful for the posters

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SomeOfTheTrouble · 30/07/2025 13:14

FinancialPerspectiveNeeded · 30/07/2025 13:06

I think she has spent about about 100 a month on clothes/make-up/going out. So, generous and I think in some cases more than her peers, because I felt we could afford to be generous in our current situation, which is not precarious.

We are in a very fortunate financial position, but to me that doesn’t translate into giving my children whatever they want, when they want it. They still have an allowance, and need to budget within their allowance. In the same way that we don’t buy ourselves whatever we want, whenever we want it.

FinancialPerspectiveNeeded · 30/07/2025 13:23

I have a question regarding fitting in/brands. The branded stuff often costs a lot more, obviously. I find it an emotionally charged issue. The kids at school apparently have certain brands and my DD wants to be seen as fitting in. She deeply wants to feel accepted and I understand how important that it at her age. I think this will fade later and I am not concerned about it.

This last few years, I got her certain items (eg "the jacket/shoes/bag" that were more expensive (not unaffordably so) without making this part of any limited allowance. How do others manage this? If their child can't afford the particular branded item from an allowance, that seems emotionally very important, and the child request extra in order to buy it, do parents still say no to it and see their child feel left out? Even if this is just a phase to make them feel more secure and you know it will pass.

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Starlight1984 · 30/07/2025 13:24

Firstly, £25 for a band / merch t-shirt is pretty standard (actually quite cheap). Going to a big gig watching your favourite band / artist isn't a regular occurrence so could be forgiven.

Secondly, what is this £10 "pre-approved" spend your DH is suggesting? Is that a week / month / per purchase?! As you've said, £10 gets you sweet FA these days so I think that's a bit tight!

Finally, why on earth is your mum having a say in what you give to your daughter?! Is it normal for her to be there during discussions between you and DH?

OffToSeaInABlizzard · 30/07/2025 13:24

Whatever - £100 a month / £25 per week is very, very far from extreme spending, @FinancialPerspectiveNeeded. No one could possibly feel ‘spoilt’ on that.

Donotgogentle · 30/07/2025 13:28

Re branded goods - I would say they can have some of what they want - eg trainers tend to be £100+ but not everything. My parents never let me have anything branded (“waste of money”) which was miserable, teenagers do have a genuine need to fit in.

But as pp said they have should develop some critical thinking about advertising and branding.

Christmas and birthday presents is a good way of addressing this sort of need.

hattie43 · 30/07/2025 13:30

JWR · 30/07/2025 11:27

Umm, I think you’re both madly controlling! The 17 year old should have a decent allowance to buy certain things e.g. make up, non basic clothes(can be topped up by a part-time job if that is possible where you live). What she does with that is then up to her. If she blows it all on band t shirts then she might have to wait to buy the expensive mascara. It’s part of learning budgeting and money management IMO.

This . How awful to be so unnecessarily penny pinching . You both had a miserable financial childhood and now want that for your kids . Horrible .

SomeOfTheTrouble · 30/07/2025 13:30

FinancialPerspectiveNeeded · 30/07/2025 13:23

I have a question regarding fitting in/brands. The branded stuff often costs a lot more, obviously. I find it an emotionally charged issue. The kids at school apparently have certain brands and my DD wants to be seen as fitting in. She deeply wants to feel accepted and I understand how important that it at her age. I think this will fade later and I am not concerned about it.

This last few years, I got her certain items (eg "the jacket/shoes/bag" that were more expensive (not unaffordably so) without making this part of any limited allowance. How do others manage this? If their child can't afford the particular branded item from an allowance, that seems emotionally very important, and the child request extra in order to buy it, do parents still say no to it and see their child feel left out? Even if this is just a phase to make them feel more secure and you know it will pass.

Do you live in a particularly affluent area? It sounds like part of the problem is that everyone around her seems to have whatever they want too.
My children are younger so I can’t answer this specific question yet really, as they aren’t really into brands. The only specific things they’ve requested are things like Nike Pro leggings (or football shirts for one of my DDs), and so far we’ve managed by these being birthday/Christmas gifts. I can see how it may be more difficult when they’re older though.

FinancialPerspectiveNeeded · 30/07/2025 13:31

Also, how much should a concert ticket budget be at this age? She has so far been to 3 concerts this year costing about 250 total. I see this as part of growing up and can afford it. I didn't include this in the 100 per month.

Plus she has been to London twice and of course eats out (just high street stuff) etc, and the travel tickets are not in the budget either. This all just seems part of life to me and not things she needs to "budget" for if they are within reason - but rather part of her broader education.

My husband would say these need to be included as Christmas and I simply don't agree.

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SomeOfTheTrouble · 30/07/2025 13:31

hattie43 · 30/07/2025 13:30

This . How awful to be so unnecessarily penny pinching . You both had a miserable financial childhood and now want that for your kids . Horrible .

I don’t think the OP is penny pinching at all? She basically allows her children to spend whatever they want then tops up their card.

Blimeyblighty · 30/07/2025 13:31

Re branded goods - how expensive are these goods? I buy ‘the right shoes’ for school and ‘the right backpack’. Other than that, they look for the branded thing they want on Vinted/eBay or save up for it or have it for a birthday/christmas. My 17yo recently bought a £160 clothing item that was important to her to have, she had made a savings pot in her banking app & put money aside for it.

FinancialPerspectiveNeeded · 30/07/2025 13:32

SomeOfTheTrouble · 30/07/2025 13:30

Do you live in a particularly affluent area? It sounds like part of the problem is that everyone around her seems to have whatever they want too.
My children are younger so I can’t answer this specific question yet really, as they aren’t really into brands. The only specific things they’ve requested are things like Nike Pro leggings (or football shirts for one of my DDs), and so far we’ve managed by these being birthday/Christmas gifts. I can see how it may be more difficult when they’re older though.

We do live in an affluent area for the country we are in, yes, but not a private or fee paying school. Some of the kids parents turn up in fancy cars though. By no means all. There is a big range.

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Radioundermypillow · 30/07/2025 13:33

If you agree its important to keep up with the Jones' and can afford it then buy her expensive stuff if you want.@ Luckily all mine were a dab hand at buying cool stuff second hand so made their allowance stretch/had a part time job/sold things on depop/one had a craft hustle that she sold quite well

It's worth mentioning that both my oldest children had part time jobs from 17 and did a few entrepreneurial type things as well during their uni life. Every job interview they've had so far seems far more interested in that than their degree! They are sure they got good job offers because they showed they had a good knowledge of the outside world!

The issue is that you and your dh have such different approaches to money!

Michele09 · 30/07/2025 13:34

Have they ever used vinted, ebay etc? I look for good brands, new without tags, where for eg someone has received a gift but doesn't like it or bought something, put it away and grown out of it. Getting something for much less feels like an achievement on a budget but not if the bank of mum has no limits.

DiscoBob · 30/07/2025 13:34

I was job seeking at 17 and my mum did give me an allowance. Though I was also signing on (hello 90s) and I just bought all my own food, clothes, makeup etc. she obviously bought generous gifts on my birthday and Xmas.
Then at 18 I was working full time so started paying towards the house.

I think you must give the older one freedom to buy what she feels she likes within a budget you can afford to give her. And encourage her to seek work alongside study.

SomeOfTheTrouble · 30/07/2025 13:35

Radioundermypillow · 30/07/2025 13:33

If you agree its important to keep up with the Jones' and can afford it then buy her expensive stuff if you want.@ Luckily all mine were a dab hand at buying cool stuff second hand so made their allowance stretch/had a part time job/sold things on depop/one had a craft hustle that she sold quite well

It's worth mentioning that both my oldest children had part time jobs from 17 and did a few entrepreneurial type things as well during their uni life. Every job interview they've had so far seems far more interested in that than their degree! They are sure they got good job offers because they showed they had a good knowledge of the outside world!

The issue is that you and your dh have such different approaches to money!

Yes, I was quite into designer stuff at that age but I had a weekend job (despite my parents being fairly wealthy) so paid for it all out of my own money!

Agapornis · 30/07/2025 13:35

Proper expensive private schools are quite rare in France though, no? So that's not a great way to compare.

Just because she says other kids have those things, doesn't mean they do... Expensive unnecessary things are for Christmas and birthdays.

FinancialPerspectiveNeeded · 30/07/2025 13:35

Blimeyblighty · 30/07/2025 13:31

Re branded goods - how expensive are these goods? I buy ‘the right shoes’ for school and ‘the right backpack’. Other than that, they look for the branded thing they want on Vinted/eBay or save up for it or have it for a birthday/christmas. My 17yo recently bought a £160 clothing item that was important to her to have, she had made a savings pot in her banking app & put money aside for it.

The coat was 200 euros, but a nice quality and will last, the shoes were adidas and about 140 euros (but now worn every day over a year), another pair Birkenstock for 85 euros and the bag was about 350 euros (given at Christmas).

My husband felt she should have taken M&S style sandals not Birkenstock. I agree on principal but my daughter would melt down at the idea...

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Radioundermypillow · 30/07/2025 13:35

They did have friends at uni who had a bottomless pit of bank of mum and dad and they were quite envious I think, but we did what we could and they've all grown up being able to budget the hell out of everything.

Davros · 30/07/2025 13:36

I agree with @Minnie798. DH tried this with DD but he had no problem spending big on himself because he could always “justify” it (to himself). He also didn’t think we should leave any inheritance to her when the time comes. I ignored all of this. We (I?) always modelled generosity, remembering that other people are less well off, being charitable etc. She has grown into a considerate, occasionally extravagant, thoughtful and kind adult. Being mean when there’s no good reason teaches all the wrong things imo

FinancialPerspectiveNeeded · 30/07/2025 13:38

Michele09 · 30/07/2025 13:34

Have they ever used vinted, ebay etc? I look for good brands, new without tags, where for eg someone has received a gift but doesn't like it or bought something, put it away and grown out of it. Getting something for much less feels like an achievement on a budget but not if the bank of mum has no limits.

DD17 started using Vinted this last year, yes, she has bought about 5 items off their and resold two. Which is why I think she does understand somewhat the value of things. She has also had about 4 paid babysitting jobs the last year or two. But no regular job.

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Blimeyblighty · 30/07/2025 13:39

FinancialPerspectiveNeeded · 30/07/2025 13:35

The coat was 200 euros, but a nice quality and will last, the shoes were adidas and about 140 euros (but now worn every day over a year), another pair Birkenstock for 85 euros and the bag was about 350 euros (given at Christmas).

My husband felt she should have taken M&S style sandals not Birkenstock. I agree on principal but my daughter would melt down at the idea...

So my daughters have North Face coats - grandad gave them the money for them to buy them off Vinted for Christmas.

they have Adidas sambas - that was a Christmas or birthday present, then one DD saved up some allowance and bought a second pair in the sale.

they have Longchamp bags - bought on Vinted out of their allowances…

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