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How to deal with parents where one has been indulged all her life and one who is a drama llama?

21 replies

PyongyangKipperbang · 27/07/2025 00:44

Going to try to shorten this as much as I can but it may not be that short.

My mother was the youngest child of a very loving marriage, born in 1950. Adored, spoilt, indulged. Holidays in Italy and Spain in the early 60's as a teen, admits that she was the only person of her age she knew that got this.
Married my father whom initially was punching well above his weight although the tables turned later as he grew into his looks and his career really took off. This was an issue for her as she hated him outshing her.

So he would always bow down to her. To the point where when she was physically, emotionally and verbally abusive to their daughters (me and sister) he would ignore it to avoid her going off on one at him. I have come to live with it, my sister is getting there.

So now.....Dsis and I are genuinely best friends we move the world for each other if we need to. We have always clung to each other instead of our parents and we are good. But......I have ended up being carer to my parents. Father has genuine issues. He is deaf, almost completely blind and has issues with medication that means he is more likely to startle, trip, fall etc. But he wont accept this, and will do things that will put him at risk and then have an accident. My mother will have a "migraine" or a stomach upset or something whenever this happens. Its clear that she doesnt like the attention being on anyone other than her. When he had a serious op for his hearing issues she was having to "take to her bed" like a character in a Jane Austen novel.

This was some years ago and it was sort of glossed over.

Today is a big big birthday for my sister (younger than me) and over the last two days my father has alluded to a cancer scare, which upon probing from my BIL turned out to be standard bowel cancer screening (BIL pointed out that he and I had both had it done this month too!). My mother, on finding that we were going somewhere she doesnt like for her daughters milestone birthday, said she might not be able to make it if she wasnt feeling well as the smell of the cuisine makes her ill, it doesnt, she just doesnt favour that cuisine. We didnt change it and then she took to her bed again. Father did come and was there an hour and a half and she was ringing him and asking why he wasnt home yet as she wasnt well. So then he turned on his "doddery old man" act. Dont slag me off for saying that, I know the difference and so does the rest of the family. The eye rolls of "here they go again" were universal.

My father throws money at people, me, sister, his grandkids.....to look like some sort of saviour because my mother is tighter than Simon Cowells t-shirts.

I am utterly sick of it. And I am massively pissed off that my sister and I have to handle them for each other. Can my baby sister not just have ONE FUCKING DAY about her?! When it was my big birthday a couple of years ago I organised something that I loved and knew they would hate. They both agreed that it wasnt their thing, wished me a good time and all was good. Yet just a couple of weeks ago Mother accused me of not inviting them, whilst at the same time admitting they wouldnt have come!

I am not sure what I am asking here. Just venting I guess. I think that they are both selfish and self absorbed, but play that out as being "devoted" to each other, when really all they care about are themselves. Shame they were/are never devoted to their kids.

Sorry.....ranting and blathering.

ETA Before anyone asks, no it isnt dementia. Unless it comes on at 22 and stays until a person is 74 and counting. The tools may change but the issues remain the same.

OP posts:
cleverhatdisguise · 27/07/2025 00:56

Rant away. They sound draining and infuriating.
I'm sorry you have to put up with them.

PyongyangKipperbang · 27/07/2025 01:41

cleverhatdisguise · 27/07/2025 00:56

Rant away. They sound draining and infuriating.
I'm sorry you have to put up with them.

Thank you.

Draining and infuriating are both very good words to the describe it!

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QuiteSedFred · 27/07/2025 02:40

Hi OP I can relate to this SO much - my mum’s exactly the same although I’m an only child so no sister whatsoever. Looking back I feel my Dad could’ve done better.

PyongyangKipperbang · 27/07/2025 03:06

QuiteSedFred · 27/07/2025 02:40

Hi OP I can relate to this SO much - my mum’s exactly the same although I’m an only child so no sister whatsoever. Looking back I feel my Dad could’ve done better.

I am sorry you have to deal with it too.

I think that with mothers like this, plus fathers who were allowed by society to do fuck all for their kids , we were left adrift but also had the expectation of caring put onto us. How do we deal with that now? No idea.

OP posts:
QuiteSedFred · 27/07/2025 03:14

PyongyangKipperbang · 27/07/2025 03:06

I am sorry you have to deal with it too.

I think that with mothers like this, plus fathers who were allowed by society to do fuck all for their kids , we were left adrift but also had the expectation of caring put onto us. How do we deal with that now? No idea.

That’s the thing !!! I can so relate to this ‘taking to her bed’ things as well !! I laughed when I read it not because I don’t empathise with the situation but because I can so relate to it - it’s such a cliche !!

How do we deal with it ? I think just consoling outselves that we’re more mature than our hopeless parents !!

PyongyangKipperbang · 27/07/2025 03:19

They fuck you up, your mum and dad....

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CrispieCake · 27/07/2025 04:02

Can you do a "decoy" celebration in future? Organise something bland that they'll enjoy, and then have the real event separately in blessed peace and harmony.

Shinyandnew1 · 27/07/2025 09:09

They sound hard work but I wouldn't invite them to things like this.

If you want to go for a curry with your sister and her family-do that. Don't tell them about it. See them separately and bring some cake.

binkie163 · 27/07/2025 09:56

@PyongyangKipperbang
I think that with mothers like this, plus fathers who were allowed by society to do fuck all for their kids , we were left adrift but also had the expectation of caring put onto us. How do we deal with that now?

I moved abroad! My parents were useless, mother was a nasty, attention seeking cow and weak selfish enabler father. My childhood was not nice. I felt zero obligation to them. Both siblings had financial support during their adult lives so bear the brunt of servitude. I went through a few years of being dragged into the family bullshit and it wore me out all the lies and drama, pretending to be a close happy family. I just went NC and left them all to it, no regrets.

You potentially have another 20 years of them pulling this shit. Stop pandering to them. They won't change. Don't include them in stuff. They can expect all they like, they can obviously afford to pay for care, let them. Don't take on their expectations. You have toxic parents like me, it is up to you how much you allow them to rule over you. They don't care if it upsets or makes you angry. Nothing you do will ever be enough. Don't set yourself on fire to keep them warm.
My dad is still dangling the inheritance over my siblings to keep them compliant. Man passes on misery to man....

AttilaTheMeerkat · 27/07/2025 11:34

What you’re describing here is a narcissist in the shape of your mother and the narcissistic family structure she went onto create. People from dysfunctional families end up playing roles. Your dad was and likely remains her secondary abuser and enabler. He had also failed you as a parent by failing to protect you from the excesses of his wife’s behaviour.

It is not possible to have any sort of relationship with people that disordered of thinking so I would not bother at all with them.

QuiteSedFred · 27/07/2025 11:36

AttilaTheMeerkat · 27/07/2025 11:34

What you’re describing here is a narcissist in the shape of your mother and the narcissistic family structure she went onto create. People from dysfunctional families end up playing roles. Your dad was and likely remains her secondary abuser and enabler. He had also failed you as a parent by failing to protect you from the excesses of his wife’s behaviour.

It is not possible to have any sort of relationship with people that disordered of thinking so I would not bother at all with them.

I would totally agree

SlenderRations · 27/07/2025 12:03

Taking to her bed made me roar. My MIL does this every Christmas and just last eeek told me a v long story about her MIL doing it. I had to mute the phone so she couldn’t hear me snorting. God I hope I don’t do it in turn!

thepariscrimefiles · 28/07/2025 06:38

PyongyangKipperbang · 27/07/2025 03:19

They fuck you up, your mum and dad....

Do you have to be a carer to your parents? If your dad can afford to throw money at people, surely he/they can afford to employ people provide the care that you are currently providing?

They both sound immature and self-centred. Your mum sounds worse than your dad but he has obviously enabled her narcissistic behavour. I would certainly reduce the time I spent with them as none of it is enjoyable for you and they don't appreciate or value what you do for them.

WhereYouLeftIt · 28/07/2025 07:17

thepariscrimefiles · 28/07/2025 06:38

Do you have to be a carer to your parents? If your dad can afford to throw money at people, surely he/they can afford to employ people provide the care that you are currently providing?

They both sound immature and self-centred. Your mum sounds worse than your dad but he has obviously enabled her narcissistic behavour. I would certainly reduce the time I spent with them as none of it is enjoyable for you and they don't appreciate or value what you do for them.

How did it come about, you becoming his carer? I suspect it has more to do with a feeling of obligation, maybe duty - it cannot be love, your father is not loveable. So how did he rope you in? I think it would be worth you thinking that through because it might make it easier for you to see that you were manipulated into it, and that might make it easier for you to disentangle yourself from it all, step back, and leave him to it. If 'doddery old man' is an act, then he is perfectly capable of arranging professional paid care. Yes, he has genuine issues that he's in denial about, but that is not your responsibility, it is his. His and his alone. He can choose to deal with it, or he can choose not to - either way, not your monkeys not your circus.

As others have pointed out (and you obviously know yourself) they are narcissist/enabler and they are not going to change. All that really matters here is you and your sister, and dealing with the hangover of having had narcissist/enabler parents; that you were groomed by them to put their wants and preferences before your own needs. It's very hard to squash that early 'training' out of yourselves, which is probably how you've ended up as carer, but squash it you must.

You know 'doddery' is an act - but I don't think you fully take on board how manipulative it is. Rather than roll your eyes you need to take his act as your cue to walk away and leave him to it. His manipulation forces you into your childhood role of putting his wants before your needs - knowing that might help you resist. Flip it in your head - don't be the child doing what daddy wants, be the adult telling the sulky adolescent to pull their socks up and get on with it.

It truly is time to let them reap what they have sown.

3luckystars · 28/07/2025 07:20

Read the book ‘you are not the problem’ it’s brilliant. it will completely change your life.

Good luck x x

Thisbastardcomputer · 28/07/2025 07:37

My mother was a total snob, god knows why, she came from a very ordinary family and her father was a miner. She had form for disrupting events. My 50th was held at home, marquee, hog roast and live band, l didn’t tell her but she got wind of it, so l told her she couldn’t come, due to her behaviour. She rocked up anyway but it must have struck a chord because she behaved herself, well until the point l asked her to set a table up and distribute a load of birthday cakes I’d bought, which kept her busy for a good while, but thought I should have done it myself.

rickyrickygrimes · 28/07/2025 07:42

But......I have ended up being carer to my parents

Have you? How did this happen?

RosesAndHellebores · 28/07/2025 07:44

The saddest thing is that they are in this state and only 74.

SapphOhNo · 28/07/2025 08:43

Don't be their carer?

Cherrysoup · 28/07/2025 12:19

Organise a carer, but they pay. I’m currently dealing with a very similar narcissist parent but whilst I’m happy to organise a carer/pendant so she can call for help, I won’t be the one responding or paying! She does not deserve my help, but if I don’t do it, it will fall to her sibling who is not in great health and it isn’t fair.

Purplecatshopaholic · 28/07/2025 12:23

I would have much less to do with them, there is just no way I would put up with that shit. Their carer? Fuck that op. Pay someone, and live your best life. They sound utterly draining and toxic..

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