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New GF and problems with men

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BiBoyMum · 25/07/2025 14:44

I am in a fairly recent relationship with a great woman. I have two sons. She has a daughter. They've met her and her daughter casually. They all between late primary and early secondary in school.

Over time, I have realised that she really has issues with men - trusting them, or not seeing them as intrinsically bad. Exploitative I think is the right term. She feels like they can't help, but to take what isn't theirs.

I haven't mentioned yet but I am also a woman. I understand sexism, VAWG, the patriarchy, I am not a pick me. However, I am the mother of 2 sons of an impressionable age. I need to consider their mental and emotional health.

I don't think being with someone who sees them as a ticking time bomb is in their best interests. I am candid with my sons' about sexism in an age appropriate way, but I won't have them treated like criminals for their sex. She's never been directly horrible to them, but there are things she does where it is as if she expects they will do the wrong thing and so they need to be warned or told or harnessed to stop them.

I've seen her treat other male children like this, too, and often just have this look of disgust and annoyance when it comes to discussing men. Like someone's husband or brother. She automatically assumes the worst of them and much of her conversation to women about the males in their lives seem to be around warning the women that said males will take whatever advantage they can if the women don't take steps to prevent it. This can be children she is speaking about!

She's compared boys/men to XL bullies and said they should have similar restrictions in public.

What I think was the straw that led me to write about this was a couple of days ago, we watched a Netflix documentary about a woman who discovered the man she was seeing was married and she embarked on a stalking campaign that culminated with her stabbing herself to pretend it was him. My GF felt it was the man's fault for driving her to that point with his betrayal and selfishness and that she should have received psychiatric help, not legal punishment.

I found this very scary and more confusing when she said she would not feel this way if it has been two women, as the gendered context of female oppression is absent and she therefore could not have been driven to do it in the same way. I realise this is a sort of tangent from how she regards all males (including male children and the boys/men she knows), but I think it is all part of the same coin.

I don't know how to balance the reality that men are often abusive, with also not allowing my sons' to be treated like they were born evil.

OP posts:
Nanny0gg · 25/07/2025 14:50

How recent is recent?

How well did you know her and her views before introducing her to your children?

Eric1964 · 25/07/2025 14:59

The idea that all men are tainted by 'the patriarchy' is offensive nonsense and I say that with full awareness that some men are scum. Disagree with me if you like - I don't care - but you've got your sons to think about, for crying out loud.

ZoggyStirdust · 25/07/2025 15:03

She’d fit in well on mumsnet

joking aside, I agree with you. It’s not healthy and the fact she treats her own children badly because they are male would put me off.

SixteenClovesOfGarlic · 25/07/2025 15:06

Dump her if you don't like her, or fundamentally disagree on things.
You've only been dating briefly so it's no big deal, and it's fine to dump anyone for any reason at all.

Only make your kids meet any future girlfriend after you've been dating for a long time and think it's in your kids best interests to be made to meet.
( @ZoggyStirdust the girlfriend doesn't have a son?)

TwistedWonder · 25/07/2025 15:08

Nanny0gg · 25/07/2025 14:50

How recent is recent?

How well did you know her and her views before introducing her to your children?

This.

I couldn’t be worn anyone with shows distain to my DS so she’d be long gone for me.

Yes some men are abusive arse holes we know that but to write off half the population is madness.

She sounds toxic imo

outerspacepotato · 25/07/2025 15:14

If your relationship is so recent, why are you introducing your kids?

If she's going to treat your kids badly because they're male, put your kids first. If she makes her distaste of men so obvious, they're going to pick up on it. Why would you be in a relationship with someone who would treat your kids as distasteful?

ZoggyStirdust · 25/07/2025 15:21

SixteenClovesOfGarlic · 25/07/2025 15:06

Dump her if you don't like her, or fundamentally disagree on things.
You've only been dating briefly so it's no big deal, and it's fine to dump anyone for any reason at all.

Only make your kids meet any future girlfriend after you've been dating for a long time and think it's in your kids best interests to be made to meet.
( @ZoggyStirdust the girlfriend doesn't have a son?)

Edited

You’re correct, my misread.

point still stands though

MiloMinderbinder925 · 25/07/2025 15:33

I would have empathy with her if she is traumatised by male violence or abuse. However her views would drive me mad and I certainly wouldn't want my sons exposed to them.

BiBoyMum · 25/07/2025 16:14

We met in March 2022. Been a couple since Xmas '23. It's why I said fairly recent

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slightlydistrac · 25/07/2025 16:23

You have fundamental differences of opinion. I'm really sorry, but I really don't see how this relationship can work out. She appears to loathe the male of the species and you have sons. That is a recipe for disaster waiting to happen.

BiBoyMum · 25/07/2025 16:27

slightlydistrac · 25/07/2025 16:23

You have fundamental differences of opinion. I'm really sorry, but I really don't see how this relationship can work out. She appears to loathe the male of the species and you have sons. That is a recipe for disaster waiting to happen.

Most of the time, it takes place in the form of cynical comments. I just read a comment in another thread where a man has allegedly been single for 5 years, and the response was "rubbish". That's the kind of thing she would say. It is only when you push her on it, she will say some more.... extreme things. The former she will say in front of anyone; the latter is more in private company.

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Charabanc · 25/07/2025 16:27

You have to put your children first, OP. And raise them to be good guys (which I'm sure you are, as you sound very thoughtful).

yeesh · 25/07/2025 16:27

Why are you with someone with such extreme views? She believes your children are evil just because of their sex, it’s so fucked up I just can’t imagine how you think this is ok.

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