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So confused - emotional abuse?

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SpiderOnTheFloor · 14/07/2025 11:04

My husband told me I am abusive. That it's an accumulation of things said to him in ways that make him feel criticised.

Here are some examples of things he says I have done that are abusive:

The other day, I expressed surprised at how expensive our weekly shop was - over £100 more than normal. I asked if he had a receipt (no), I asked if there could have been a mistake at the till. I asked if he bought anything extra I hadn't put on the list when doing the meal plan and shopping list (only some yogurts). This was interrogation and unreasonable criticism, I am told.

The next day, I wondered out loud as to where all the cheese had gone and why the prawns were open, and also was surprised that all the ham was finished. He said he had 'barely had any' and then started listing loudly how many pieces were in each pack and how much of it he thought I had consumed at breakfast.

I, with a little jest, said 'I don't believe a word' (he has form for lying) and before I could finish my sentence he had stormed off out of the house in front of the children.

Later that day he returned, did not acknowledge me, and then left the house again without mention, and was gone for a couple of hours.

I found this upsetting, as I didn't know what was going on, was home alone with our two children (both disabled, one of whom cannot be left unsupervised for even a second), with no idea when he might return. I had not had a chance yet that day to shower or dress and had shared that morning how tired I was feeling after several nights poor sleep.

When he returned, after some time of being ignored, I asked him if we could talk about what was happening. I explained I was feeling upset because of his leaving suddenly without explanation, particularly as we have an agreement set previously during family therapy we did with our older teen, that if one of us ever needs to cool off we do each other the courtesy of saying that's what we're doing, agree when we will be back and agree to talk on return.

After listening to what I had said, he basically said he disagreed with that agreement and said he was going upstairs for a while.

Come evening, further ignoring continuing, my teen asks us to 'just sort it out'. I explain again what was upsetting for me and ask him to share what was going on for him.

That's when he unleashed with the accusations of abuse. He said I'm abusive, and it's been an accumulation over 2-3 months. I asked for some examples to help me understand but he couldn't recall any, just asking me to 'be nicer'. Throughout the conversation he seemed impatient and short, and his tone was aggressive.

I was horrified he felt this way and really really upset by the accusation. We talked for a while but he said he didn't really want to talk about it, he hates conversations like this, he grew up in a house where his parents fought all the time, and actually he just wanted to go to bed.

I told him how confusing this felt to me, how I want to understand, and how everything has been so normal and happy at home I had absolutely no idea he was upset about anything until this explosion when I was telling him how sad I was about the walking out.

My head is all over the place today from the deflection and escalation that happened in last night's conversation. This isn't the first time.

I am also feeling deeply ashamed if I have been abusive, unwittingly. I am wondering also if some of the things I point out - that we've agreed on, but he does not do consistently - like keeping the kitchen decent, making sure we put meetings in the calendar etc - are coming across as 'abusive'? He doesn't react well when I mention them.

For context, I am autistic, I work full time, have two disabled children one of whom is home educated and whom we have been through a hellish few years with, I'm exhausted most of the time and probably am a little sharp sometimes. But I never raise my voice, swear, shout, call him names. I wouldn't dream of it and would not want to make him feel unloved or small.

Am I the asshole?

Sorry this is long, I am just so confused and tired.

OP posts:
User37482 · 14/07/2025 14:01

I’d have wanted to see that receipt too tbh. He may have taken cash ack out. You do interrogate a bit but tbh it is annoying rather than abusive.

Definitely think he’s hiding something.

Rainbows41 · 14/07/2025 14:02

From what you have said, I don't understand how anyone could consider you to be in any way abusive.
From what others have picked up on, by looking at the facts on your partner's behaviour, he is infact the one being utterly abusive with his carelessness actions and avoidance tactics.
Are the bills split equally between you both?
He seems to spend a lot of time away from you all, storming out of the house or asleep. It doesn't look like he is pulling his weight in terms of family life. But I could be wrong of course.
£100 isn't something that should be ignored - he needs to explain what the heck he spent this money on because it sure as heck didn't just fall down the drain.
And as for eating the food so quickly - can he not see that when he takes food, he is leaving nothing behind for anyone else to enjoy?
It looks like he didn't buy enough food in the first place tbh, if he is trying to justify it's disappearance.
I wouldn't be trusting him with the shopping anymore OP.

SpiderOnTheFloor · 14/07/2025 14:08

YesThatsATurdOnTheRug · 14/07/2025 13:30

Absolute bullshit is it controlling to want to know where an extra £100 went!! Ffs that's totally normal! He sounds incredibly defensive and angry, to a really impossible to live with degree. You have done nothing wrong OP, you are not abusive, he absolutely is. Storming off and leaving you, shouting, being aggressive, making you question your understanding of reality (he spent way over on the shop with no explanation but acts as if you've imagined it, he over eats family food and tries to act as if it was you/didn't happen). I'm sorry OP, this is really not ok.

Well that was my gut instinct but I am questioning that and wondering if I am causing him to behave in this way because of the way I communicate - being autistic it is possible I am being direct or blunt in a way that he is interpreting as abusive?

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SpiderOnTheFloor · 14/07/2025 14:14

He has just come in from his office and given me a hug and told me he loves me.

Which of course is lovely and did make me feel much less sad but my god am I still confused when less than 24 hrs ago he was telling me how consistently abusive I am.

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outerspacepotato · 14/07/2025 14:15

SpiderOnTheFloor · 14/07/2025 13:31

Yes both self employed.

I needed more child-free time to dedicate to the business and he was going to take on more caring and home ed duties but this didn’t play out.

Is there any respite care available to you so you could block out some more time for your business?

Is most of the care for the kids on you? That needs to be more equitable since you're both working.

A thought, could you sit down with your husband and block out times together on a calendar for putting into the business and for self care? Increased income is always helpful, and self care when you're a carer is vital. A weekly routine gets very comfortable after a while.

SpiderOnTheFloor · 14/07/2025 14:16

outerspacepotato · 14/07/2025 14:15

Is there any respite care available to you so you could block out some more time for your business?

Is most of the care for the kids on you? That needs to be more equitable since you're both working.

A thought, could you sit down with your husband and block out times together on a calendar for putting into the business and for self care? Increased income is always helpful, and self care when you're a carer is vital. A weekly routine gets very comfortable after a while.

All wonderful sensible thoughts 😊

We have done this quite a few times before and clearly need to do it again. He doesn’t stick to it though. And I’m not sure how to raise that in a way that won’t trigger a storm off or turning it round to be my problem.

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SpiderOnTheFloor · 14/07/2025 14:20

We have respite for one child. Not the other (home ed teen) as she really struggles being away from me.

He tends to do the practical care for our youngest because it’s all quite physical. This child goes to school, has after school carers and 6 nights a month respite. So that’s all good.

I do everything for my teen. It’s emotionally exhausting and I only get one day a week to cram client facing work in. The bulk of it has to be squeezed in around my teen’s needs which are extensive. And family life etc. I’m very tired.

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RuthChrisSt · 14/07/2025 14:31

I'm more concerned that your teen had to step in and tell you both to sort it out. Sounds pretty toxic all around.

SpiderOnTheFloor · 14/07/2025 14:35

RuthChrisSt · 14/07/2025 14:31

I'm more concerned that your teen had to step in and tell you both to sort it out. Sounds pretty toxic all around.

I agree.

At that point we were about to sit and watch some tv together. She didn’t want to do that knowing he hadn’t spoken to me since he’d gone upstairs ‘not ready to talk’.

Understandable really. I don’t think anything of the sort that happened this weekend should play out in front of children. Pretty difficult when one party storms out repeatedly and gives the other the silent treatment though.

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putitovertherefornow · 14/07/2025 14:43

SpiderOnTheFloor · 14/07/2025 12:54

I’m so exhausted by trying to communicate with him. Over the years it has got harder and harder.

That, and he finds a way to sabotage almost every attempt I make at raising my earnings or trying to improve my health and wellbeing. Usually by filling the calendar with other things that he decides take precedence, but without prior discussion.

I just feel crushed. So perhaps I am becoming an asshole as a result. But abusive? I don’t think so although I am questioning everything about myself right now.

Stop questioning yourself. Apart from one obvious question you do need to ask yourself, that is.

How much longer are you prepared to cope with living with your abuser?

thepariscrimefiles · 14/07/2025 14:45

SpiderOnTheFloor · 14/07/2025 13:23

Ok thank you.

I have laid out my worst behaviour here and did want honest opinions, so while it’s brutal to realise, I appreciate I need to take a long hard look at myself.

£100 overspend is a massive amount with nothing to show for it. Your husband sounds secretive and deceitful. He is obviously hiding stuff from you. Despite you working full time, does the care of your disabled children mostly fall on you?

limescale · 14/07/2025 15:58

I’d want to know how come my grocery bill was £100 more than usual. That’s not controlling and abusive, it’s good financial management.

SpiderOnTheFloor · 14/07/2025 22:00

The variety of responses, and a day of thinking about it, has led me to the conclusion that we both need to do better.

To give each other more grace because we are both managing a lot. And to find ways to communicate before things escalate. Once there is any escalation, even tiny, he shuts down and won’t talk, I get anxious and then we’re on a path to a horrible time.

I don’t think either of us is abusive. Just two people stretched beyond our limits.

Thank you for helping me figure out my confusion 😊

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Voxon · 15/07/2025 02:04

I can't imagine being questioned by my spouse over food in the fridge, it seems like being highly critical. But the rest seems reasonable.

But if you are autistic you'll need him to break it down. Print off a list of emotionally abusive behaviors and sit with him and ask him to identify which he thinks you do, with examples.

This way you'll have a clear understanding of what he's saying and you can assess.

My husband is autistic so this is how I handle complex emotional issues with him. It works much more easily.

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