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InnoculatedImmunity · 07/07/2025 06:23

Hello, Just found out that my wife of 11 years, together 12 years, had a two-night stand (AP1) and a one-night stand (AP2) in span of 10 days last summer. Needless to say, I am completely devastated as one would be when they put all their trust into someone and end up getting betrayed by that person. To make things more complicated, we have a wonderful daughter who we both love very much (9 at the time of cheating events). I first found out about the one-night stand (AP2) as a friend of my wife's send me an incriminating video. This friend had a falling out with my wife.. So this was her revenge. Friend did not know about the two-night stand (AP1), which I will talk about later. Apparently AP2 and wife had just done the deed, and she was recording him laying in bed, playing with his privates. Guy was very well-built, handsome (10 out of 10. Like Ken from Barbie movie) and half my and wife's age (24). Next day she sent out her little production to this ex-friend. Initially wife claimed that she was talking to her about how she messed up and was so sorry, and ex-friend wanted to see the video, so wife say she sent it over. I was distraught and completely devastated. How could she do this to me and her daughter? To our marriage we had built, to our future plans to grow old together? We had had some ups and downs in our marriage but were in a very good place in our relationship. Only compliant I had been that we were only having sex every three months over the last two years before this happened. She always blamed it on hormones and pre-menopause. She was diagnosed with low Testosterone and had actually started taking testosterone a week before I received incriminating video.

Anyway, this happened on a 4-day-long business trip, and according to wife, happened on the last day of the trip. My wife had always had problems with alcoholism and had tried to quit a few times but never successfully. She said that she got off work early on the last day and went to the hotel bar to kill time. Ended up staying at the bar for hours and the guy kept buying her shots. Also, initially claimed that she thought she was "roofied" but then recanted that story later. She showed great remorse and was crying profusely when I found out. Stated begging me not to leave her and that she will do anything to save our marriage. I told her to get away from me and not touch me as I was disgusted by her at this point. We stayed up and discussed this all night (daughter was asleep in her room). She tried to make it seem like she did not do it willingly and was so drunk that she doesn't even remember the incident. Just flashes. I eventually decided to give our marriage a second life, mainly because of our daughter, and I still felt love in my heart from my wife. However, if I am being honest, I would have no give it a second try were it not for my daughter. I have always been in the group that said “you do that. Better pack your bags the next day”, and my wife knew my stance (maybe why she never came clean to me on her own).

We started going to therapy, and wife told me she would be completely transparent, and I can have full access to her phone/email/computer/social media account etc.etc. The next day I asked her for her phone and ran a recovery software on it. I am in IT and very good with technology, and wife of course knows this. The next day I confronted my wife as I had found something disturbing in some deleted messages. I don't think wife realized I can recover deleted messages. Anyway, I found out that she was flaunting the video to her friends, a couple of them. Basically, saying look I bagged a stud…!!! Again, this hit me like a ton of bricks. She had told me that she sent the video during a guilt driver discussing with her one friend, but in fact it was completely opposite. When I confronted wife with this info, she fessed up and said that initially she felt that way, as she was dealing with her own “mortality”. Her dad had passed away a few months ago, and she was feeling old etc.etc.

At this point, I told her to come completely clean with me and tell me if there is anything else I need to know. At this point, knowing I can go through her deleted text history, she confessed to another incident, the two-night stand with AP1. This one took place 10 days before the second incident, on another work trip. Apparently, this was the first time she every cheated on me… same reasons about mortality, getting old, missing her dad, and getting really drunk at the hotel bar. Apparently she was flirting with the bar tender (was 39) and ended up staying until the bar closed at 9 PM. Then her and bar tender sat in the lobby and finished their drinks. She said she wanted more drinks… And told the bar tender she had some in her room!! They went to her room, and she claims they only “dry humped” the first night as she orgasmed on him with their pants on, but tops off. She then told him to leave (hard for me to belive it didn't lead to actual sex that night). Then next day she thought about him all day at work and said she could not get him out of her mind. Went back to her hotel, down to the bar at 11 AM (work got out early that day), and met him as she started his bar tending job around 1 PM. Stayed at bar all day, and once it closed they both went to her room and had sex. Says he left after about an hour. As she thinks he probably had a girlfriend waiting for him at home. I believe she only told me about this one as she was afraid, I would discover this in the deleted text messages. She apparently had STI test done after AP1, but not after AP2. I just had a full STI panel done on me, and everything is negative thankfully. We have been going to therapy, even after I found out about AP1. I am completely devastated, and cannot get the image of my wife sitting at the bar, and then agreeing to go to her room with a stranger. How easily she disregard our marriage, health and future plans. What type of woman does this? And then to do it again a few days later.

I can't sleep anymore, as I am constantly thinking about why she would do this. Did I do something wrong, did I not pay attention to our marriage… I can't figure it out. She keeps giving me the same reason… Mortality, feeling old, dad's death… I don't buy it, but she seems so genuine. Main reason is that both these men were 10s. I have gained a few extra pounds, but still look fairly attractive… maybe she wanted someone younger? Then leave me and go be with younger men… I can't make sense of it.

So, the silver lining is that my wife made significant effort to give up alcohol about a year ago (I started noticing her attempts to stop drinking in July. Both incidents happened in late June). She struggled a bit, but eventually was able to give up alcohol completely and is now sober for 8 months. She started pulling us to Church about six months ago and has said we all need to live a “godly” life for the last few months. Furthermore, she now tells me that she made all these changes after the second incident, as she realized a few days later that she was spiraling. Why did it take her a few days to realize this? Why not the next morning after the first or even the second guy? She swears on our daughter that there were no other guys. She loves our daughter more than life itself... So I am inclined to believe her. But…for the life of me, I cannot figure out why she would step out of a happy marriage and exhibit such behavior. Also, I did not find anything else on her phone/computer that indicated there were others. She has been showing a lot of remorse, apologizing, working hard at answering all my questions, even when I am somewhat mean to her when a bit of anger starts to show up. I go through phases of love for her to disdain for her, to feeling bad for both of us and our daughter… it's a constant roller coaster.

I found out about all this 2 weeks ago, and we have had sex about 5 times in the last week… (I know I am an idiot). This has been some of the best sex we have had… Like we used to when we first met. It is probably a combination of Testosterone treatment for her and maybe the fear of losing each other… I don't know. She says alcohol is gone forever, and that was the main driver, but I can't… Maybe won't… Let myself believe she will not cheat again. Possibly trust needs to be built up again overtime. She seems very genuine, so either she is telling the truth or is a complete psychopath. I can't decide which. Can I get any constructive perspectives from folks here? I can't talk to any of my friends or family, as they would be too judgmental.

I have decided to stay and work on our marriage instead of taking the easy way out. It has been extremely hard, but is there light at the end of the tunnel? Am I burying my head in the sand and will get hurt again? Need some perspective from someone outside the relationship… As I think I may have tunnel vision. Thanks for reading the long-winded story!

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Sadcafe · 07/07/2025 09:11

Once is bad enough, twice in a short space of time doesn’t suggest someone who particularly cares about the potential consequences, particularly given the quite obvious conscious decision to go back a second time,she says the alcohol is gone for good, only time will tell on that, but can you bring yourself to forgive/ trust her .Not sure how many men, or women if situation is reversed, would continue to happily have sex with partner knowing what they have done. Her apparent lack of self esteem, concerns over her father etc aren’t automatic grounds for an affair, though it can be that the attention might have made increased her self worth. It’s going to need time and a real desire on your part to move the relationship back to where it needs to be.

MeTooOverHere · 07/07/2025 10:44

I'm so sorry. I have no advice to give, maybe you need individual counselling with your therapist to decide which way to go?
This is guilt though "She started pulling us to Church about six months ago and has said we all need to live a “godly” life for the last few months."

MeTooOverHere · 07/07/2025 10:50

InnoculatedImmunity · 07/07/2025 07:11

Thank you so much for your response. I did post of men's website, but all I get there is leave the bit* and nothing more. I wanted to get a different perspective/point of view. maybe from a woman's side, on why you think she would do this? I am trying my best to try and understand how you can just throw way 11 years of loving marriage. We buried parents together, built 3 homes together, have a beautiful child, no money problems, decent health... I can't make sense of it... and all I get from Men's site is... Leave the cheating Bi**. The second day with AP1 bothers me a lot. You are correct, had nothing to do with boos.

From a woman - I have no idea.
I am not convinced they are the only ones and I agree that the 2nd day of the AP1 does not bode well. Even if you accept booze as an excuse, that is NOT booze-related.

Eric1964 · 07/07/2025 10:57

MeTooOverHere · 07/07/2025 10:44

I'm so sorry. I have no advice to give, maybe you need individual counselling with your therapist to decide which way to go?
This is guilt though "She started pulling us to Church about six months ago and has said we all need to live a “godly” life for the last few months."

Another vote for IC, which I'm having, albeit very belatedly. In my case, the purpose is to help me find the strength to take the next steps, whatever they may be.

Are you religious, @InnoculatedImmunity ? I'm not, but if you are, then please don't allow yourself to be manipulated by appeals to piety.

MeTooOverHere · 07/07/2025 10:59

Eric1964 · 07/07/2025 10:57

Another vote for IC, which I'm having, albeit very belatedly. In my case, the purpose is to help me find the strength to take the next steps, whatever they may be.

Are you religious, @InnoculatedImmunity ? I'm not, but if you are, then please don't allow yourself to be manipulated by appeals to piety.

Agree - please don't allow yourself to be manipulated by appeals to piety.

Otterdrunk · 07/07/2025 11:33

Your wife sounds like she’s using a mid life crisis as her reason for her behaviour. Which is the age old cliche (mostly used by men for infidelity). But perimenopause can & does cause havoc with the way a woman feels. If it’s out of character for her has the supplementing with testosterone anything to do with it? If it’s returned her feelings of being a sexual being & along with it her libido & feeling of being desirable again - has it got any role in what she’s done? While also being vulnerable to alcohol misuse, going through loss & feeling existentially in a bit of crisis? I know testosterone can be hard to correctly dose & lots of women find they inadvertently end up with too high testosterone & have to get their levels down. I’m not saying it makes all perimenopausal women rabid nymphomaniacs that seduce random strangers! She’s clearly got a lot of emotional stuff going on & perimenopause affecting how she views her desirability as a woman seems to have had a major impact on her. Maybe she wasn’t able to handle her alcohol (& struggles to the best of times you say) coupled with testosterone replacement & she gave in to feeling desired & like a woman again? But at what cost? I’m not condoning it just can see that her reasons may carry some weight. If I was her I’d want my testosterone levels checked & would also be seeking to repair the damage caused to you & your marriage. I know blaming hormones isn’t something I’d usually agree with - but from my own experience of a horrific peri & menopause emotionally, I can see how it can cause extreme emotionality & erratic feelings (more so distressing & unstable in my case not hypersexualised & risk taking as in possibly the case of your wife). I don’t condone infidelity but it may be more complex than we always think.

Crazymayfly · 07/07/2025 11:50

Yellowbirdcage · 07/07/2025 07:39

That period you are in now I recognise as what can be termed ‘hysterical bonding’. Don’t really like hysterical as an adjective given its misogynistic roots but it was helpful for me to understand why one of my first reactions to my ex’s affairs was to suddenly start having lots of sex. All the heightened emotions and the jolt out of complacency.

I am a wiser woman now and know I should have left him if I could. It’s very easy for others to say a couple should split but the reality is extremely hard. The children, the practicalities, the finances. We limped on for a whole decade because of children and finances but really the relationship died when he cheated.

She probably does want nothing more than a return to ‘before’ now as she’s terrified at what she’s done. The religion thing seems like a way to try and control the situation by hiding behind a set of rules she just has to follow to be good again.
It may never happen again. She may appreciate you more now. BUT you will never see her the same again. You’d be an unusual man to be able to live with this.

This. This is spot on! Sorry you’re going through this, I understand the hurt and the desperately wanting to make it better. Sometime it’s can be worked on - if there’s genuine remorse. But the whole ‘bragging’ thing… which took place when she was sober… makes me think it’s not genuine remorse. Sorry, I realise that sounds harsh.

TaranFollt · 07/07/2025 12:27

I'm very sorry to read all this.
I don't have much practical advice, but you wanted perspectives.
I'm a little older than you at 50. I am old enough to know that affairs happen and that people are complex.
I'm relatively non-judgemental although we all have our biases. I'm credited by friends to be non-judgrmental nevertheless. I believe good people are capable of bad things and sometimes bad people can have moments of kindness.
What alarms me about your wife's behaviour is the chaos and instability of it. It's like a self-destruct button. Has this demonstrated itself before in other ways?
Also, as a pp has said - the sharing of the video is a concern. It's a huge invasion of another person's privacy. I do judge that. I'd hate to receive a sexual video where the person in it is not consenting to who's viewing it.
We're all different in how we respond to things. Even if I could forgive my DP of an affair, I would find it a greater issue if he shared a sexual video of AP to his mates, bragging about it.
This is more than just sex outside a marriage for me. It's how your wife is treating people generally to get her needs met.

Yellowbirdcage · 07/07/2025 13:20

@eric thanks for your reply. Don’t want to derail this thread but I remember you and it’s good to hear you’re surviving! I finally managed to separate and have never been more content. I think you’re a couple of years older than me. It’s not too late.

AgentJohnson · 07/07/2025 13:30

There are far too many elements to your wife’s betrayal that shine a very unflattering light on your wife’s character. Was she still drunk when she circulated her bragging video? Urgh, she really has no moral compass. If it wasn’t for her falling out, you’d be none the wiser. I suspect there’s probably more but she isn’t the type to tell the truth unprompted by irrefutable evidence.

Only you can decide if you can accept that your wife isn’t the person you thought she was and probably hasn’t been for a long time.

ByPeachScroller · 07/07/2025 15:14

Reconciliation is an industry that is worth millions. Books, counselling, seminars, forums. And the truth is it rarely works because to forgive betrayal you must also betray yourself.

I don’t believe your wife has gone from being faithful to sending videos like that. And you’ve had years of alcohol issues as well. What is their to save?

Christl78 · 07/07/2025 17:08

InnoculatedImmunity · 07/07/2025 07:11

Thank you so much for your response. I did post of men's website, but all I get there is leave the bit* and nothing more. I wanted to get a different perspective/point of view. maybe from a woman's side, on why you think she would do this? I am trying my best to try and understand how you can just throw way 11 years of loving marriage. We buried parents together, built 3 homes together, have a beautiful child, no money problems, decent health... I can't make sense of it... and all I get from Men's site is... Leave the cheating Bi**. The second day with AP1 bothers me a lot. You are correct, had nothing to do with boos.

On the “why she did this”: she is a narcissist and is using you to have a comfortable life while receiving narcissistic supply elsewhere. Question for you is why you accept it. I think therapy would help you and you would probably find deep co-dependemcy issues yourself. No man, no woman who respect themselves would stay. They would kick their other half out in a beat. One more thing. Your kid is feeling it. Your kid is witnessing a damaged relationship which she will subconsciously replicate in the future. She will either cheat like her mother or marry a cheater. Take her out of the house and show her that this behaviour is a no go. And If she ever gets treated this way she should leave.
one more thing. You didn’t choose the difficult way. You chose the easy ie to stay.

Wallywobbles · 07/07/2025 22:08

By forgiving you pretty much guarantee she’ll cheat again. Why wouldn’t she? Nothings changed in her world.

Motnight · 07/07/2025 22:14

I wouldn't trust her as far as I could throw her. And her new found piousness would really really get on my nerves.

SapphOhNo · 07/07/2025 22:26

LTB - totally.

This is too far gone to salvage. End things and get on with your new life.

ByPeachScroller · 07/07/2025 22:30

Your counselling sessions were a waste of time and a typical false reconciliation. How much money did you waste before you realised there was another incident?

Her implying she was forced and her sudden interest in church suggests she is highly manipulative, as most alcoholics are. If you search for posts about cheating on here, you will notice a common theme, the majority of them cheat again.

SunflowerTed · 07/07/2025 23:15

Sorry but her behaviour is unforgivable.

AusFrosty · 08/07/2025 01:19

Take your time - you don’t have to decide immediately and you are within your rights to change your mind.

If you are having sex, use protection - given your previous issues, the increased frequency is unlikely to last.

The only mitigating factor is she made steps to fix herself before you knew of the affair (although I’m suspicious of the church thing).

Steph4ne · 08/07/2025 01:41

I’m so sorry you’re going through this. No matter her excuses or reasons for doing what she has done, she kept it from you, lied, AND it wasn’t a one time thing with one man (not that that’s ok either).

Would she have told you about this had you not found out? No. Because she didn’t.

She lied to you and has continued to lie still. She made the active choice to do these things and now doesn’t want to face the consequences. You deserve better than this.

It could be the testosterone, but even then she could be having more sex with you not others or talk to you or anything.

Trust, once broken is hard to fix. Even with access to her phone what’s to say she doesn’t get another secret one. Do you want to be going through her phone? Isn’t the point to be able to trust each other.

InnoculatedImmunity · 09/07/2025 06:25

Christl78 · 07/07/2025 17:08

On the “why she did this”: she is a narcissist and is using you to have a comfortable life while receiving narcissistic supply elsewhere. Question for you is why you accept it. I think therapy would help you and you would probably find deep co-dependemcy issues yourself. No man, no woman who respect themselves would stay. They would kick their other half out in a beat. One more thing. Your kid is feeling it. Your kid is witnessing a damaged relationship which she will subconsciously replicate in the future. She will either cheat like her mother or marry a cheater. Take her out of the house and show her that this behaviour is a no go. And If she ever gets treated this way she should leave.
one more thing. You didn’t choose the difficult way. You chose the easy ie to stay.

We have a second home where I could easily move. Financially both wife and I are very secure. It would be very easy and selfishly preferable to do this and start dating again and having sex with anything that moves. I am in decent shape (getting better every week), tall, financially very secure, some say even handsome, have great work/life balance and am about 4 years younger than wife. I could start dating women in late 30s and early 40s. But I want to stay and make this work. It will be extremely hard to do this, as I will be reminded of the infidelity pretty much every time I look at my wife. If I leave, it will be comparatively easier to eventually move on with my life, maybe possibly be that free/fun person again with someone else, instead of the reserved/sad person that I have now become around my wife. I know that by staying, I am going to put myself through a much tougher recovery process, with constant triggers and reminders of what happened. However, again, I do want to make this work. I do want to get back to the fun/free state with my wife again. I don't know if it will happen, but I can see the remorse and genuineness in her and the willingness to make this work, so I will try. I may change my mind a year from now, but that time and effort is worth the stability it will bring my daughter and recovery in our marriage if we are successful in bringing happiness back into our destroyed marriage. I still have some doubts about the whole truth, but every day I ask her more questions, uncomfortable questions, and I am starting to feel like that doubt is eroding. I see empathy, pain, anguish and self-loathing in her and it is starting to come out in our counseling sessions. I know she is coming from a genuine place and has opened up about everything.

Considering how good we have been together since she gave up alcohol (eight months before discovery), her showing so much attention and love to me (also started eight months before discovery), trying to help me with my issues over the last year shows that she genuinely wanted to make changes. I don't think she ever though she would get caught but was really working on making our marriage better before I found out. Some say it was guilt, but that is a good sign, it shows that she wanted to make things better for our future together by taking Alcohol out of the equation. She was also going to some individual counseling for her "depression" issues, however I believe she may have talked about her infidelity as with her counselor over the past year. So now that I look back on the previous 8 months, I realized she was making tremendous efforts to improve our marriage and her mental state.

Finally, even after the betrayals, I still love this woman. I don't know why, maybe because she was (maybe can be again) the love of my life. I can't walk away from this without giving it my full effort. I have never looked at another woman in a wanting manner since I laid eyes on my wife 12 years ago. Sure, I admire beauty, but it was just admiration and could never be anything more. I still feel that today, even with all the anger and disdain I sometimes feel for my wife. I don't understand why that is, but it does tell me that I must try my best to make things work before giving up on our marriage. Also, we have been seeking joint and individual counseling from three different counselors, and that is helping a lot.

OP posts:
Hothouseflowers · 09/07/2025 07:12

Unfortunately I agree with the men on their site on this.

I would leave her. Once is bad enough. Twice is unforgivable and it’s likely many more times you don’t know about.

if you stay, expect her to do it again.

boobot1 · 09/07/2025 07:18

I could understand your perspective if it was a one off, heat of the moment. The thinking about him all day and doing it again is actively planning to cheat, which is very different. Then she did it again. Thats a pattern. I suspect its the tip of the iceberg. I dont understand how you could possibly want to carry on with her, she's vile.

MeTooOverHere · 09/07/2025 08:40

Take your time to decide. If it were me, NO but we are all different.
Get tested and use protection if you have sex again.
Go in to counseling and make it a regular thing.

Christl78 · 09/07/2025 16:42

InnoculatedImmunity · 09/07/2025 06:25

We have a second home where I could easily move. Financially both wife and I are very secure. It would be very easy and selfishly preferable to do this and start dating again and having sex with anything that moves. I am in decent shape (getting better every week), tall, financially very secure, some say even handsome, have great work/life balance and am about 4 years younger than wife. I could start dating women in late 30s and early 40s. But I want to stay and make this work. It will be extremely hard to do this, as I will be reminded of the infidelity pretty much every time I look at my wife. If I leave, it will be comparatively easier to eventually move on with my life, maybe possibly be that free/fun person again with someone else, instead of the reserved/sad person that I have now become around my wife. I know that by staying, I am going to put myself through a much tougher recovery process, with constant triggers and reminders of what happened. However, again, I do want to make this work. I do want to get back to the fun/free state with my wife again. I don't know if it will happen, but I can see the remorse and genuineness in her and the willingness to make this work, so I will try. I may change my mind a year from now, but that time and effort is worth the stability it will bring my daughter and recovery in our marriage if we are successful in bringing happiness back into our destroyed marriage. I still have some doubts about the whole truth, but every day I ask her more questions, uncomfortable questions, and I am starting to feel like that doubt is eroding. I see empathy, pain, anguish and self-loathing in her and it is starting to come out in our counseling sessions. I know she is coming from a genuine place and has opened up about everything.

Considering how good we have been together since she gave up alcohol (eight months before discovery), her showing so much attention and love to me (also started eight months before discovery), trying to help me with my issues over the last year shows that she genuinely wanted to make changes. I don't think she ever though she would get caught but was really working on making our marriage better before I found out. Some say it was guilt, but that is a good sign, it shows that she wanted to make things better for our future together by taking Alcohol out of the equation. She was also going to some individual counseling for her "depression" issues, however I believe she may have talked about her infidelity as with her counselor over the past year. So now that I look back on the previous 8 months, I realized she was making tremendous efforts to improve our marriage and her mental state.

Finally, even after the betrayals, I still love this woman. I don't know why, maybe because she was (maybe can be again) the love of my life. I can't walk away from this without giving it my full effort. I have never looked at another woman in a wanting manner since I laid eyes on my wife 12 years ago. Sure, I admire beauty, but it was just admiration and could never be anything more. I still feel that today, even with all the anger and disdain I sometimes feel for my wife. I don't understand why that is, but it does tell me that I must try my best to make things work before giving up on our marriage. Also, we have been seeking joint and individual counseling from three different counselors, and that is helping a lot.

Dude, you are deeply co-dependent and your co-dependency is damaging to your kid. You have very deep self esteem issues.
Leave her, take the child with you. Your kid will suffer more If you stay.
You are tall, handsome, younger, financially secure and she still cheated? And you tolerate this humiliation? From a loser? Please

Boomer55 · 09/07/2025 17:00

I would give her the elbow. Just because she’s female doesn’t excuse her behaviour.

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