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My father is cutting his family off

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losingdf · 26/06/2025 10:54

I'm gradually accepting of this situation, just wanted to share and comiserate with anyone going through similar.

Dad (78) left a 12-year relationship in the summer of 2024. Within three months had met and married someone new. I still don't know her, she has been abusive (mostly by text) to me, my sister and my father.

I met her once. It was a very badly organised visit (by him...) and she ended up leaving town in a huff. But before that point we had a couple of hours in a tapas bar, where she introduced herself by way of her own traumas. The one that stood out was that - for unspecified evil daughter-in-law reasons - she almost never saw her own grandchildren.

Dad left my mum & sister on Find My iPhone; they told me this week that he seemed to have moved house. Weeks ago! And not told any of us.

I've administered his email for him for years. Out of desperation I snooped at his Sent Mail, and could confirm that he was organizing a move in April, and had left his old house at the end of May.

I've spoken to him 2 or 3 times since then. I let him know I'd sent father's days cards from the grandkids, and a magazine subscription as a gift. He didn't mention anything.

Two days ago he wrote to his financial advisor asking for his pension benefits, which were previously signed to me and my sister, to be changed to his wife.

In February he was hospitalized for a couple of weeks. He was stabilized, and diagnosed with a condition that's manageable, but only for 2-5 years. He's driving again, and visibly improving day by day, last I heard.

During his hospital stay, he had visitors every single day, particularly from my sister and her husband. Sis had a heart-to-heart with him. Dad showed her months and months of abusive texts and threats from the wife, brushing them off as "well I don't read them any more". My sister shared less-frequent, but similarly abusive messages from her.

I live further away, but visited for a long afternoon. We chatted, and he made a hugely reassuring speech to me that nothing was more important than his family. That he would have it out, and this would be non-negotiable with his wife.

Two days later he'd told hospital staff to block his wife from visiting. She did anyway, and (messily) Dad asked my sister to escort his wife to a side room. My sister passed on the message, that he didn't want to see her, at least today.

Two days later still, the hospital was ready to discharge him, and my sister came to pick him up. She had offered to visit daily, give up her work to make sure he was cared for. He said he wasn't ready yet, stayed one more day. The next day, he was gone, with his wife.

She is (somehow) a medical doctor, but one who only practiced as a nurse. She has cared for him through a rough drug regime, which I know Dad was particularly grateful for.

He declared that his phone was now a "shared phone", and if any of us texted him we would often get sharp messages back from her, often from his phone, berating us for our lack of care, or interference in their relationship.

He declared that he would be "taking a break from social media" because he blamed it for his relationship problems. When I said - you're not active on social media - do you mean you're just not going to reply to texts? He said yes, that's what he meant.

I said in my experience, his wife was cruel, controlling and undeniably abusive. I said I wouldn't see her, definitely not with my kids. Her last message to me had ended with quote "never speak to me again, boy", and I said this might make it difficult?

After his came back from hospital he sent away his own sister, who tried to visit and was told to go away, stop interfering etc. She is 82, and has since decided that life is too short.

I hear from family friends that he does not bring her to his frequent Rotary dinners, usually swearing off for some dog / dentist related excuse. Mutual friends simply do not believe that he has distanced himself from his family.

One more story - back in 2023, he called me to show his "investment portfolio", a financial login full of investment gibberish, and many many texts from his "investment advisor" on WhatsApp. Look, look! He'd got a 100% return on £4000 and was going to send another £20,000, but the bank kept stopping him for some reason. Did I think it was a good deal? Anyhow - we talked him down from that. This feels like that again, but worse.

Snooping felt like a necessity back then, and it defeinitely saved him from giving away more money to a scammer. Now it's all the contact I have.

My sister's kids (6 & 3) saw him much more often, and are asking where he's gone. She's told them he's still ill in hospital

She's not spoken to him for weeks, and I've left him 3 missed calls since Father's Day, which is pretty unusual for him.

He used to visit me a few times a year with his former partner, and we got on really well.

My wife asked me if I thought he was suffering some kind of mental decline. With all the hospital attention & contact from friends, I just think this is just who he is - willingly fading from his kids and grandchildren's life, buckling to the threats of a broken stranger.

I am so sad that these are his last healthy years, and I want to keep some thread of contact. I will still try calling every couple of days. I want to believe that he does still want his family, and that a little time away would do him good. But I don't know how to make that happen any more.

My sister was closer, is so angry with him, I'm not sure she can engage. His own sister has given up.

I'm worried the next contact will be a bloody Facebook message from family friend I can barely remember, meekingly informing me of a funeral date in his wife's home town, just in case I wanted to come.

I've not got anywhere else to go in this relationship. I will keep calling unless he tells me not to. But if you have a similar story with a happier ending I'd love to hear it.

OP posts:
ApoodlecalledPenny · 26/06/2025 10:58

I don’t I’m afraid, but I really feel for you.

Eyesopenwideawake · 26/06/2025 10:58

That's awful, I'm so sorry. What do you think would happen if you visited him and talked face to face? Maybe at a time when the wife is not there?

losingdf · 26/06/2025 12:08

Eyesopenwideawake · 26/06/2025 10:58

That's awful, I'm so sorry. What do you think would happen if you visited him and talked face to face? Maybe at a time when the wife is not there?

Thank you! I live 3hrs drive away, so it would be a big risk to come down unannounced, plus (if he's not told us he'd moved), I will only know where to drive because I've snooped on emails with his letting agent. So that'd make it quite an entrance.

He agrees with the last person who was in the room. So if I'm lucky and can arrange a meeting, and he's not freaked out by finding his new house, I might get a nice lunch and an empty promise to confront her.

But he seems set on her, and she threatens him. So I might just get her grievances by proxy, as I've had from him before.

He wrote a long (and very much dictated) email to me my sister and mum back in April, complaining that we had abanoned him, despite all the abuse we'd got back from his (now "shared") phone.

So - it'd be last resort, but unfortunately that might be where we are in a few weeks.

OP posts:
MaySea · 26/06/2025 12:55

Contact social services.

DPotter · 26/06/2025 13:20

If there is a suggestion of financial abuse, and preventing someone from seeing their family and friends - report to the local social services.

whackamole666 · 26/06/2025 13:37

MaySea · 26/06/2025 12:55

Contact social services.

This.
He's being subjected to elder abuse by the 5 minute wife.

MrsMoastyToasty · 26/06/2025 13:43

It might be worth making a Claire's Law application.

AttilaTheMeerkat · 26/06/2025 14:10

Sadly it appears your dad is being exploited financially by his wife for her own sole financial gain. Do not allow yourselves to be cut off by her.

I would today raise a safeguarding concern with his councils adult social care or social services department.

I would also contact Hourglass (who are a charity for elder abuse) and they also have a helpline 0808 808 8141

Eyesopenwideawake · 26/06/2025 15:59

Echoing the PP - talk to social services. It's not about the money, it's a welfare issue (or will be before too long).

losingdf · 26/06/2025 20:50

I'm not sure what the criteria are for elder abuse, I think it would have to get a lotttt worse before anyone could take action.

He's in his right mind (unfortunately), and I think it's pretty normal to sign over your pension on death to a new spouse. He seems independent, social, is driving again.

From the outside he is just distancing himself from his children, who don't like his new wife. It's the life he wants.

And hey, she's a medical doctor and a recent former mayor. She can turn it on when required. Only to us is she a menacing & broken alcoholic 🤷

OP posts:
losingdf · 26/06/2025 20:57

No slight to alcoholics but the bad messages used to come into the evenings, when my dad was asleep.

In my aunt's brief visit, she saw the fridge stocked with the cheapest supermarket cider and bottles of vodka 🙄 And my dad hinted early on that alcohol was very much an issue for her.

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AttilaTheMeerkat · 26/06/2025 20:59

Do not assume things have to get a lot worse before anyone decides to take action. Abuse too thrives on secrecy.

Your sister and you have valid concerns re your dad so you can report to Social Services. At the very least contact hourglass.

Is his wife a lot younger than he?.

Eyesopenwideawake · 26/06/2025 21:26

Don't be intimidated by her job and her previous social standing.

There's one question you need to ask - is she acting in your father's best interests in every aspect of his life? If she isn't start seeking advice.

losingdf · 26/06/2025 21:36

She's a similar age.

I'm not intimidated by her, just pointing out that they'll both put up a good front. It's probably very important to dad to present his life as something that's in good order.

Thank you for the pointer to Hourglass, I will contact them.

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ThatDaringEagle · 14/07/2025 15:59

I'd visit. Don't worry about showing up unannounced. Try to find a time when she's likely out of the house (like maybe when she's at the off licence ;) ) and visit then. Just make up some spiel about how you got the address and wanted to see his new house or whatever.

Contact social services, put this on their radar at the very least, so that if there is a follow up alert they might act more speedily, etc

I'd also contact his family solicitor & /or financial advisor and share your concerns. They might have your dad's ear wrt financial advice & could steer him more sensibly if he came to them with what appeared very one sided requests (i.e. signing over his estate, or whatever).

She sounds like an all singing, all dancing nightmare tbh. Keep recording & saving her abusive texts and the hospital requests of your dad to help build your case.

Good luck OP

ThatDaringEagle · 14/07/2025 16:03

I'd visit him ASAP. I'd also urge your sister & his sister to do likewise to try to salvage your relationships with him .

Don't worry about showing up unannounced. Try to find a time when she's likely out of the house (like maybe when she's at the off licence, or whatever ;) ) and visit then. Just make up some spiel about how you got the address (Estate agent correspondence or whatever) and wanted to see him in his new house, or whatever.

Contact social services, put this on their radar at the very least, so that if there is a follow up alert they might act more speedily, etc

I'd also contact his family solicitor & /or financial advisor, and share your concerns. They might have your dad's ear wrt financial advice & could steer him more sensibly if he came to them with what appeared very one sided requests (i.e. signing over his estate, POA, or whatever).

She sounds like an all singing, all dancing nightmare tbh. Keep recording & saving her abusive texts and the hospital requests of your dad to not see her, etc, etc to help build your case against her & to protect your dad's welfare.

Good luck OP

Dery · 14/07/2025 16:12

It’s counterintuitive but when a loved one is being abused, it’s preferable to try and keep things civil with the abuser unless and until the loved one is in safety. Otherwise, it’s easier for the abuser to isolate their victim.

Your feelings towards your father’s wife are completely understandable. But your father might be better protected if you can find a way to appear to tolerate his wife. Otherwise, she can just spin a story of him and her vs you and your siblings, and increase his isolation.

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