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Why do you choose to not have a social life?

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enkelt2 · 17/06/2025 16:23

If you choose to not have much of a life outside your immediate family, especially if you made it a conscious decision, could you share why?

My mum is in her 60s and has a daughter (me) and a son, both in our 30s. She's still married to our dad.

My dad is still working full-time, planning to retire in 5 years. My mum stopped working since 2008.
Before Covid, she used to go to church maybe once per week. After church gathering dissolved during Covid, she stopped having any social life whatsoever. She's expressed she's glad the gathering stopped.

Her only contacts, as far as I know, are my dad, my brother, her sister, her MIL, and pretty much no one else. I do not know of any female friends she has.

She stays at home all day, does some housework, makes dinner for dad, that's it. She even mentioned that the only thing she does outside of the house is grocery shopping so she's considering cancelling her mobile plan. She travels abroad with dad at least once per year. If my brother plans to travel, she is always open to tag along.

I don't think I am in the place to criticise her life choices unless it affects me--and it does. I call her twice per month, and due to physical distance (she lives in North America), we meet up once per year.
Whenever we gather as a family, I notice immediately how enmeshed my brother and my dad are with her. She talks incessantly, commenting on every single thing they do. She prohibits my dad from a low carb diet, she instructs my brother when to do laundry, how to use an ankle sprain bandage, etc. She would use her fork to point to food, gesturing me to try some. She would push her half-finished plate of food to my brother, "finish this for me." She also commented on "not knowing what I like to eat" as if she's entitled to this knowledge? Also, when my dad asked me or my brother a question, she would jump in and answer for us, based on her knowledge of the situation. When I spend time with her, I feel... like an accessory. I just try to live up to whatever "daughter" image she has of me. She constantly takes photos of me without my consent, and when I get upset, she gets offended and upset. I really feel like an infant, an image for her to share with relatives.

Don't get me wrong, by "objective" standards, she's a good mother, erring on the overprotective side. But the downside of this is I find a lot of her actions towards the three of us quite infantilising. I actually have to avoid calling her when it's after 9pm UK time, because she cannot help but to comment "it's getting dark, why are you not sleeping?"

I think limiting her social interactions to her immediate family has caused her increased need to control us and to feel that she's in control. I understand everyone has a different personality, and some may just be introvert. But while my mum may be an introvert, how she behaves around us, I think, indicates an "overflowing" energy that would have not been there had she spent time outside the family.

It is affecting me not just during the limited hours I do spend with her, but also because it's really turned "motherhood" off for me.

I fear I'll end up like her, catering only to the immediate family even when the kids are in their 40s, and 50s, and treating them like kids. She has a professional degree, and if she chose to keep working, she would have been a top 10-20% earner. In a way this makes it all the more sadder, because she's using her energy in, in my opinion, a wrong way that affects me directly.

Anyway, just curious, if you have 0 social life outside of your immediate family, why have you kept it this way?

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VimesandhisCardboardBoots · 17/06/2025 16:53

"I think limiting her social interactions to her immediate family has caused her increased need to control us and to feel that she's in control."

Is it not more likely to be the other way round? For whatever reason she feels the need to be in control at all times, and it's easier to control your family than it is to control friends, who can ditch you when you start trying to make their lives miserable?

anyolddinosaur · 17/06/2025 17:24

You dont live with her and the way she chooses to live her life only impacts you if you want it to. You are using your mother as an excuse because you dont want to be a mother.

What your father and brother choose is their choice, not yours.

Why does everything have to be about the impact on you.

enkelt2 · 17/06/2025 17:36

anyolddinosaur · 17/06/2025 17:24

You dont live with her and the way she chooses to live her life only impacts you if you want it to. You are using your mother as an excuse because you dont want to be a mother.

What your father and brother choose is their choice, not yours.

Why does everything have to be about the impact on you.

What do you mean, because it's my life?😂

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enkelt2 · 17/06/2025 17:37

VimesandhisCardboardBoots · 17/06/2025 16:53

"I think limiting her social interactions to her immediate family has caused her increased need to control us and to feel that she's in control."

Is it not more likely to be the other way round? For whatever reason she feels the need to be in control at all times, and it's easier to control your family than it is to control friends, who can ditch you when you start trying to make their lives miserable?

You're right, the problem is why she does she need to have control in the first place?

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SecondWoman · 17/06/2025 17:44

enkelt2 · 17/06/2025 17:37

You're right, the problem is why she does she need to have control in the first place?

Does it matter? You aren’t her, her way of life doesn’t impact much on yours, and, more importantly, there’s no reason why you should turn into her, or replicate choices you can see are self-limiting. It certainly shouldn’t impact on whether or not you choose to have a child. My parents were well-meaning but terribly inadequate parents, but I see it as a useful education in how to be a better, more available parent to DS.

Booksaresick · 17/06/2025 17:52

I think people should be left to live their life how they wish and this includes our parents, children and other family members.

Gettingbysomehow · 17/06/2025 17:55

I don't have an immediate family as I'm divorced and DS is grown up, the rest have emigrated so my social life is essential.
It sounds extremely unhealthy to me, your mum should have a life away from the home.

livelovelough24 · 17/06/2025 18:05

Most parents, especially mothers, spend most of their life energy on their kids. Especially if they have a job, juggling between work and home is stressful and there is not much time for socializing. We are humans, not machines, so it is not easy for us to then just “turn off” when kids grow up. This way of living becomes your second nature. What you think is controlling is actually caring and it makes me very sad as a mother to read your post. I hope this is not how my kids see me.

enkelt2 · 17/06/2025 18:21

SecondWoman · 17/06/2025 17:44

Does it matter? You aren’t her, her way of life doesn’t impact much on yours, and, more importantly, there’s no reason why you should turn into her, or replicate choices you can see are self-limiting. It certainly shouldn’t impact on whether or not you choose to have a child. My parents were well-meaning but terribly inadequate parents, but I see it as a useful education in how to be a better, more available parent to DS.

How could it not impact me? She would be visibly upset when she discovered I didn't share something with her (because I didn't want her to criticise or over-involve herself). I'd love to share things with her but then knowing how she'd try to criticise or involve herself, I'd refrain myself.
As for replicating her life: well, I wouldn't know, but that's just a fear. In fact, I feel like their overprotectiveness is their way of overcompensating for how their parents were lacking for them...

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enkelt2 · 17/06/2025 18:25

livelovelough24 · 17/06/2025 18:05

Most parents, especially mothers, spend most of their life energy on their kids. Especially if they have a job, juggling between work and home is stressful and there is not much time for socializing. We are humans, not machines, so it is not easy for us to then just “turn off” when kids grow up. This way of living becomes your second nature. What you think is controlling is actually caring and it makes me very sad as a mother to read your post. I hope this is not how my kids see me.

Thank you for sharing your perspective. I think my mum probably feels the same, but unfortunately it's not up to me to change how she feels. I guess even if I lived with her it would never be adequate for her. I just wish she had more of a life outside of the home.

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EmeraldRoulette · 17/06/2025 19:00

So you're living in another country? Sounds like it's just as well. Do you plan to go to North America to live?

The comment about 9 pm makes me think it's the 17th century and you're a dairy farmer!

Comedycook · 17/06/2025 19:04

Did your mum have much help and support during your childhood from wider family? I wonder if she was all consumed with bringing you up without much support or help to enable her to have a life outside of the home and family....now she's a bit stuck.

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