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What do I do?

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cantpickaname · 11/06/2025 17:01

Apologies if this is long but I’d really love some impartial advice, long time lurker, infrequent poster. My partner and I are mid fifties have been together 3 years, don’t live together but were planning it for next year. We get on brilliantly, similar personalities, values, outlook, interests etc.

When we first met he told me he had a female friend who was an ex from 4 years before we met,they'd broken up because they became like brother and sister. Both agreed that they got on so well that it would be a shame not to remain friends. I had/have absolutely no problem with this and wouldn’t dream of policing him being friends with someone he’d known for years before we met.

He very rarely mentioned her but after a year I was in his car, and a call came onto speakerphone. I thought her opener was overfamiliar and he was very quick to say “cantpickaname is here, you’re on speaker”. It was clear from that conversation they had spoken earlier that day so I asked how often they were in contact. Eventually, and after a ‘Morning xx’ text popped up from her while I was with him, he said he met her regularly for coffee (and less frequently a meal) and they messaged/spoke to each other every few days but just as friends. No problem with this but he never once mentioned it. I had never had, or asked, to see his phone but I asked if I could see their messages and he had deleted them all, going back years. He said it was because they held private and personal information, eventually admitted some of the conversations would have made me ‘uncomfortable’. I was furious about the secrecy and lies by omission. We broke up for a while but after lots of discussion and promises that he would never lie/keep secrets again we got back on track. He agreed to back away from the friendship and recognised it wasn't healthy and was interfering with our relationship.

Last week (2 years later), he was showing me something on his Facebook and the same woman came up as number one on his shortcuts. I didn’t know what they were but googled it later out of curiosity. Turns out that No 1 in your shortcuts is the person you interact most with on FB. When I next saw him I asked about it, he showed me his phone and the shortcut was gone. He said he had never interacted with her, it was a random algorithm and he couldn’t control facebook. He looked me in the eye and swore he hadn’t deleted her from his shortcuts but when I looked it was there (he obv didn’t know I could find this). Again it's the deception I don't like

I feel about 12 with all of the fb nonsense, and I think I know the answer, but am I overreacting? I’m absolutely devastated over the loss of our potential future together but also think that if I back down again then I am showing him how I’m prepared to be treated. All I keep hearing in my head is “Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me”. Please help me find clarity!

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FortyElephants · 12/06/2025 09:31

cantpickaname · 11/06/2025 17:07

Thank you, I wonder the same but surely if he wanted to be with her, which he says he doesn't, he had 4 years to get back with her? Tbh, if anything, she seems keener on him than the other way round

He may not be interested in her romantically but he enjoys knowing that she wants him!

supercali77 · 12/06/2025 09:34

I remember reading in some infidelity book about friendships, and maintaining the walls of a relationship...the only 'safe' friendships are the ones that support the relationship and it's walls. Respectful. Transparent. You've been together several years and never met this supposedly close 'freind'. He's lied by ommission. Deleted messages he says would make you uncomfortable. None of it sounds good, and I would have every reason to trust the algorithm and not his protestations...afterall he deleted things before and lied. So the pattern seems clear. I would end the relationship.

supercali77 · 12/06/2025 09:36

As for...they could have got back together if they wanted to...yes maybe, but I've known people who like to squirrel away suss 'friendships' for ego boosts and the feeling of having options. It's not decent behaviour and undermines security

slinkiemalinkiey · 12/06/2025 10:00

supercali77 · 12/06/2025 09:34

I remember reading in some infidelity book about friendships, and maintaining the walls of a relationship...the only 'safe' friendships are the ones that support the relationship and it's walls. Respectful. Transparent. You've been together several years and never met this supposedly close 'freind'. He's lied by ommission. Deleted messages he says would make you uncomfortable. None of it sounds good, and I would have every reason to trust the algorithm and not his protestations...afterall he deleted things before and lied. So the pattern seems clear. I would end the relationship.

Yes that is in Shirley Glass " not just friends". While people may mock her suggestions you do have to work at relationships.

Perhapsanothertime · 12/06/2025 10:06

Out of interest I just checked my Facebook shortcuts. Number 1 is my partner, number 2 is my mum and number 3 is one of my best friends. After that I can see no real reasoning for them. Next is a group that I occasionally interact with, the next one is someone I very rarely, if ever, interact with on Facebook, who happened to comment on my post the other day! First time in about 2 years! Yet he’s there on my list. After that is another best friend who I regularly interact with.

So I wouldn’t put too much emphasis on the shortcuts.

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