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Porn use? Ok or too much?

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Strangewaysusan · 02/06/2025 00:13

Dh really ‘enjoys’ pornography which I got into sharing with him because it was fun, but there was part of me that felt if I didn’t that I would be missing out on something from him

he has quite frequent erectile dysfunction due to antidepressants and trouble ejaculating.

Even though we have had a grand sex life porn often helps him ‘finish’ where we couldn’t together.

I often can help him to finish too, so I don’t mind porn too much but I do wonder how often he uses it and I think it’s been a longterm habit even before the ED.

I wonder if it might be part of his wider emotional avoidance traits and hearing things he says sometimes in conversation i think that maybe sometimes he is not seeing me as a person and more often sees women as objects?

He had kept it secret but I had seen it when I needed to use his phone for directions one day, he was lost and he kept trying to interfere with my search whilst driving.

I can’t remember how we started watching it together but it became a way to help him reach the end point when ED raised its head (or not)

I have said before that it was becoming too often and I just wanted normal sex but then I’d feel bad because I was getting all the climaxes and he wasn’t.
Sometimes it was fun for titillation and a frisson of being ‘naughty’ together and exploring fantasies in a ‘safe’ way, not involving other people

It’s a sexual dynamic that has felt both connected and disconnected, mutually pleasurable and imbalanced, playful and sometimes painful.

I worry that porn has become a a necessary tool rather than a fun extra.

we started sharing it together in part because it felt like a way to be close, but i also felt pressure to maintain that ‘closeness’ so i didn’t lose him to his own detachment, attuning to his needs, trying to stay connected in any way , while also navigating my own discomfort.

But what complicates it further is his emotional unavailability and relationship inconsistency,

Especially because it is part of our sex life more than he shows up for us emotionally.

And feels like we’re performing sex rather than sharing it .

even if it is still enjoyable in ways, I'm still seeking intimacy and have emotional and sexual confusion.

I wanted a sex life that felt connected , not just functional.
And for a while, it did.

We always had great sex together, and I genuinely enjoyed being open, playful, and adventurous.

But somewhere along the way, it stopped feeling mutual. It became more about what would work to get him over the line than what felt natural between us.

I didn’t mind the porn at first , we shared it, laughed, used it to add heat. But then it started to feel like a requirement and started to feel like a replacement for closeness.

I feel the pressure to perform, to please, to keep the energy up because otherwise, I sense him slip away.
I start thinking:
– If I don’t suggest porn, will he detach ?
– If I say this feels too much, will he think I’m not enough?
_ will he just go and sort himself out without me anyway if I don’t join him in this and lose the chance I had of some physical intimacy with him?

I have had issues with porn in itself but wanted to be part of his sex life and not feeling defeated by his ED/ inorgasmia.
But what began as something fun starts to feel like a requirement

I adapt again and again, because I want us to work.
But I need something real , not just ,cheap thrills?!
what we used to have felt so real and connected, attuned and passionate, it was the best sex ever .

And over time, although its evolved into something else, much more sexual and rude, its hurt to feel like my needs, my body, and my presence aren’t enough ,
unless I shape myself into something more convenient as compensation for his medical ED.

I want to be wanted fully. Not just when I’m playing a role, not just when he needs help finishing.

has anyone experienced this and come out the other side? (No pun intended!)

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Nothankyov · 02/06/2025 00:21

Honestly - I think you need more help than this forum can provide. And I mean this kindly. Porn is frowned upon on MN (in my experience). What you need is a good sexual therapist for him so he can address whatever he’s getting from porn.

Strangewaysusan · 02/06/2025 00:31

Nothankyov · 02/06/2025 00:21

Honestly - I think you need more help than this forum can provide. And I mean this kindly. Porn is frowned upon on MN (in my experience). What you need is a good sexual therapist for him so he can address whatever he’s getting from porn.

Edited

Thank you, there’s no way he would entertain a therapist, we have discussed it.

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MiloMinderbinder925 · 02/06/2025 00:39

You sound like you're doing everything you can to please him and there's a kind of desperation that if you don't he'll leave you.

Why do you want to be with someone who'll dump you if you stop watching porn with him? Don't your feelings count too?

Anti depressants are renowned for making orgasm difficult. However it sounds like you both need to stop watching porn completely and focus on each other.

Strangewaysusan · 02/06/2025 00:49

MiloMinderbinder925 · 02/06/2025 00:39

You sound like you're doing everything you can to please him and there's a kind of desperation that if you don't he'll leave you.

Why do you want to be with someone who'll dump you if you stop watching porn with him? Don't your feelings count too?

Anti depressants are renowned for making orgasm difficult. However it sounds like you both need to stop watching porn completely and focus on each other.

I think you’re right, however I can’t police him and know he’ll carry on whether I’m there or not. He’s the most stubborn person I have ever met and very set in his ways, also very quick fix, instant gratification type of person.
which was attractive when we were younger, not so much now as I feel like I’m with a runaway train

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MiloMinderbinder925 · 02/06/2025 00:52

Strangewaysusan · 02/06/2025 00:49

I think you’re right, however I can’t police him and know he’ll carry on whether I’m there or not. He’s the most stubborn person I have ever met and very set in his ways, also very quick fix, instant gratification type of person.
which was attractive when we were younger, not so much now as I feel like I’m with a runaway train

Just stop going along with it. Tell him that you no longer want to incorporate porn into your sex life and you rather he stopped to see if it will improve things.

4kids3pets · 02/06/2025 00:55

Thank goodness all the men folk I know don't do porn. Wouldn't be with anyone who did either tbh having seen so many articles and documentaries about forced teen girls and forced poor women to do it. Plus I wouldn't ever be second best lol

Strangewaysusan · 02/06/2025 01:03

MiloMinderbinder925 · 02/06/2025 00:52

Just stop going along with it. Tell him that you no longer want to incorporate porn into your sex life and you rather he stopped to see if it will improve things.

I did and it was really good for a while then he had a medication change and it all stopped working and in the end I was the one to reintroduce it which I know sounds absolutely mad but I just wanted him to feel good and not feel bad about his performance or lack thereof

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Strangewaysusan · 02/06/2025 01:08

4kids3pets · 02/06/2025 00:55

Thank goodness all the men folk I know don't do porn. Wouldn't be with anyone who did either tbh having seen so many articles and documentaries about forced teen girls and forced poor women to do it. Plus I wouldn't ever be second best lol

I agree and felt all those things and it is still a huge conflict for me, I don’t agree with it on principle and I don’t like feeling like my old decrepit body is no substitute for the women on screen. The only way I have managed to justify it is because we only watch ‘lesbian l’ porn, I am fortunate in that regard because I am bi and he doesn’t want to see men getting it on so I tell myself it’s ‘ok’ because in the videos nobody ‘appears’ to be mistreated although I only recently put two and two together and understood that these women might ‘just’ be having lesbian sex when I watch but in other films they will be doing allsorts of horrible and degrading things with men so that’s another reason why it makes me feel uncomfortable and a bit guilty.

i have clearly got some issue with it or I wouldn’t have posted here

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AuntyTraybake · 02/06/2025 01:35

He’s a porn addict. He needs professional help. Stop doing something you don’t really want to do. If he leaves you because of it then your relationship wasn’t very good to begin with. Why are you sacrificing yourself at the alter of this man’s sexual perversions? You need your own therapy to understand why you’re so desperate to do anything to keep a man who would put porn before you. He’s just using your body. This isn’t real intimacy. It’s just a performance with porn props to get him off.

ForeverHopeful3 · 02/06/2025 05:47

I am not okay with any porn, at any point, in any of my relationships. The porn industry in general is so gross... No way.

smallstitch · 02/06/2025 07:55

4kids3pets · 02/06/2025 00:55

Thank goodness all the men folk I know don't do porn. Wouldn't be with anyone who did either tbh having seen so many articles and documentaries about forced teen girls and forced poor women to do it. Plus I wouldn't ever be second best lol

Seriously, you have no idea if they do or not. Whilst I’m not of the “all men watch porn and those that don’t are liars” camp, I doubt very much if a lot of them them admit it, especially to women.

Guavafish1 · 02/06/2025 08:02

He an addict… he will never be satisfied. It’s not about you.

what makes you satisfied? What do you want…

Strangewaysusan · 02/06/2025 08:22

AuntyTraybake · 02/06/2025 01:35

He’s a porn addict. He needs professional help. Stop doing something you don’t really want to do. If he leaves you because of it then your relationship wasn’t very good to begin with. Why are you sacrificing yourself at the alter of this man’s sexual perversions? You need your own therapy to understand why you’re so desperate to do anything to keep a man who would put porn before you. He’s just using your body. This isn’t real intimacy. It’s just a performance with porn props to get him off.

I know why I do it, because I have always put everyone else’s needs before my own, I want him to feel good about himself and because he wasn’t able to ‘perform’ because of his medication which is for his mental health I knew this would ’help’ but at a cost to me/ us which I didn’t reckon on .

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Strangewaysusan · 02/06/2025 08:35

MiloMinderbinder925 · 02/06/2025 00:39

You sound like you're doing everything you can to please him and there's a kind of desperation that if you don't he'll leave you.

Why do you want to be with someone who'll dump you if you stop watching porn with him? Don't your feelings count too?

Anti depressants are renowned for making orgasm difficult. However it sounds like you both need to stop watching porn completely and focus on each other.

Tbf I don’t think he’d dump me in a million years if I stopped/ objected, he would just carry on regardless when I’m not there .

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AuntyTraybake · 02/06/2025 09:24

Strangewaysusan · 02/06/2025 08:22

I know why I do it, because I have always put everyone else’s needs before my own, I want him to feel good about himself and because he wasn’t able to ‘perform’ because of his medication which is for his mental health I knew this would ’help’ but at a cost to me/ us which I didn’t reckon on .

Why do you out everyone else’s needs before your own?

I would also be willing to bed that his ED is actually more down to his porn addiction than his medication. It’s common in porn addicts.

Strangewaysusan · 02/06/2025 10:00

AuntyTraybake · 02/06/2025 09:24

Why do you out everyone else’s needs before your own?

I would also be willing to bed that his ED is actually more down to his porn addiction than his medication. It’s common in porn addicts.

There’s a marked difference when he does and doesn’t take the medication. It’s a huge difference in sexual function and erection, ejaculation etc, so he would keep coming of the ADs in order to improve our sex life but not tell me, I’d notice because of his sexual capacity change, he’d deny it because he wanted us to have our sex life back but then start going into low mood because of the lack of ADs then be persuaded to restart them and then the ED and inorgasmia happened so I 100% believe it’s the drugs, we always had an amazing and healthy sex life before the ADs were a thing, but work stresses and other things meant he needed the drugs.
i did the porn thing because I wanted him to feel better and not keep coming off the meds and having declining mental health.

i have always been a people pleaser which is another story really, abusive childhood and leaned to appease from a young age

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ByBlueMoose · 02/06/2025 10:05

Porn addiction doesn't exist.

But it's clearly effecting your relationship and your enjoyment of sex so tell him so.

BBKP · 02/06/2025 10:15

Men who use a lot of porn can struggle to perform in the bedroom in a normal way, as porn gives them unrealistic expectations and standards when it comes to sex.

teentantrums · 02/06/2025 10:45

AuntyTraybake · 02/06/2025 09:24

Why do you out everyone else’s needs before your own?

I would also be willing to bed that his ED is actually more down to his porn addiction than his medication. It’s common in porn addicts.

Was going to type a response but I 100% agree with this one. You need to start thinking about what you want, not just doing what you think will please/appease him.

teentantrums · 02/06/2025 10:45

ByBlueMoose · 02/06/2025 10:05

Porn addiction doesn't exist.

But it's clearly effecting your relationship and your enjoyment of sex so tell him so.

And porn addiction does exist.

ByBlueMoose · 02/06/2025 10:47

teentantrums · 02/06/2025 10:45

And porn addiction does exist.

No it doesn't.

It's not in either the DSM or the ICD.

Belladog1 · 02/06/2025 11:05

I'm not a man, so I am only telling you what I have read. But, if a man primarily ejaculates using his hand - then his body then thinks it is the norm, and it's harder for him (poor choice of words) to achieve climax using anything other than his hand. He needs to ween himself off the porn.

My husband started to watch porn a lot. To be fair, I wasn't letting him anywhere near me, but we were a few years away from separating. He was working part time and I was working full time. He would wait until I was at the end of the drive before watching porn all day until I got home. I only realised this after he asked me to do something on his phone ... and I saw what he was doing. I then started monitoring it. It became an obsession for him, and it gave me an even bigger ick.

GoldDuster · 02/06/2025 11:14

I want to be wanted fully. Not just when I’m playing a role, not just when he needs help finishing

This is really reasonable. And you could substitue porn with any other thing that had become a fetish, in that it was a requirement to incorportate it in order to get off. It could be rubber gloves, bowls of custard, whatever, but if it's only working for one of you, you've got a lot of work to do to unpick it and work out if you can move your sexual relationship forward together, and it be mutually enjoyable or not.

You've referred to him as a runaway train that wouldn't consider seeking advice from a sexual therpaist, so I'm not sure what your chances are but good luck. Sex shouldn't leave you feeling like a disappointing performing monkey.

Strangewaysusan · 02/06/2025 11:27

GoldDuster · 02/06/2025 11:14

I want to be wanted fully. Not just when I’m playing a role, not just when he needs help finishing

This is really reasonable. And you could substitue porn with any other thing that had become a fetish, in that it was a requirement to incorportate it in order to get off. It could be rubber gloves, bowls of custard, whatever, but if it's only working for one of you, you've got a lot of work to do to unpick it and work out if you can move your sexual relationship forward together, and it be mutually enjoyable or not.

You've referred to him as a runaway train that wouldn't consider seeking advice from a sexual therpaist, so I'm not sure what your chances are but good luck. Sex shouldn't leave you feeling like a disappointing performing monkey.

Thank you, I appreciate it. I think we can all see which way this is heading unless I choose to support him to ‘work on it’ 😪

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Strangewaysusan · 02/06/2025 11:28

Belladog1 · 02/06/2025 11:05

I'm not a man, so I am only telling you what I have read. But, if a man primarily ejaculates using his hand - then his body then thinks it is the norm, and it's harder for him (poor choice of words) to achieve climax using anything other than his hand. He needs to ween himself off the porn.

My husband started to watch porn a lot. To be fair, I wasn't letting him anywhere near me, but we were a few years away from separating. He was working part time and I was working full time. He would wait until I was at the end of the drive before watching porn all day until I got home. I only realised this after he asked me to do something on his phone ... and I saw what he was doing. I then started monitoring it. It became an obsession for him, and it gave me an even bigger ick.

Thank you for sharing . I really don’t want to go down the monitoring path, that way madness lies. Did you separate? Were there other issues?

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