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Single parent dating-no hope

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Slowdownxo · 27/04/2025 09:20

I'm a single mum of one wonderful, well rounded child. I'm 31, work full time in a job I love, providing emotional support and guidance to teens on the spectrum in a specialist setting. I rent our home and due to anxiety and trauma, I don't drive. I've done lots of work in therapy around this however, it's something I've not managed to overcome.

I separated from my sons dad 6 years ago, have dated and entered a relationship 3 years later however, he had some deep rooted issues he wasn't wanting to work on and so it couldn't continue. There have been other brief encounters however, nothing of substance. I've worked a lot on myself after breaking up with my ex partner, done a lot of inner work to overcome anxiety etc, I've developed more confidence and coping mechanisms. I love meditation and do it frequently.

Yesterday, for the first time in 5 months, I went on a date with someone I've been messaging for nearly 2 weeks. We spoke on the phone the night before and he made a couple of references to my accent being strong (I'm welsh), nobody has ever said this before and I laughed it off. There was a silence during the call which he commented on. He commented on my use of big words, as he called it and said I use them frequently. We spoke for a little while and ended the call, saying he was looking forward to seeing me tomorrow.

The day came, we exchanged brief messages, he made a comment about me applying makeup with a trowel (I wear very little makeup), and he'd see me later. I thought this was odd and rude but, whatever. He arrived half hour late, I made no comment on it and off we went. General chit chat etc was fine, he asked why I don't drive and I just said I have anxiety that I haven't been able to manage, I didn't want to trauma dump on first meet and left it at that. He poked fun but I laughed it off. We get to the destination and we're walking through town, I accidentally bumped into him a bit trying to move out of a couple's way with their dog. He mad e a comment about walking in a straight line or I'd be walking home.

Moving on, conversation got going and he again pulled me up for having an extended vocabulary, I wasn't in my mind using fancy words but I apologised. He then said that when he commented on my accent, it's because he thought I sounded common. I didn't really expect this and just nodded and dismissed it. He asked about my anxiety, saying he has it too. I asked if that's why he has a lot of sarcastic banter, as he said he'd been nervous. He said he isn't sarcastic, I didn't carry the conversation on.

He referenced money quite a lot, something I'm not rich in but certainly not lacking, I'm very self sufficient and independent in this aspect. He made comments about selling his home and purchasing a bigger one, which seemed odd to me, as he only has one 17 year old daughter. He went on about his parents having a lot of financial security etc. I stated I was financially secure but don't put huge amounts of emphasis on this, as long as someone is able to work and support their family, I've no real opinion on other people's finances.

We spoke about where our families were from, his parents were from similar areas to my parents growing up. We then began talking to an older couple, who actually grew up a few streets away from my dad. They were really lovely and I really enjoyed their conversation. He was a little quieter and didn't engage as much. They left and I said how nice they were, he then passed a comment about the area they were from, as if it were beneath him. I found this peculiar, as his parents were from similar areas.

The rest of the time was him having subtle digs and jokes about me, while talking about things that were factually wrong. I didn't correct him. We had a couple of laughs along the way, but I really sat there feeling deflated. He continued to count any silence we encountered for the rest of the time. I then said maybe we should head home, as time was ticking on. We'd been out three hours and I really was done. I did consider just getting the train home, as it's 15 minutes from where we live however, I didn't want to seem rude.

We left and by the car journey home, I didn't have it in me to continue any conversation. He made a little more effort and we got on a bit better. We'd originally planned to go out again today however, he made it clear that wouldn't be happening, which I was quite ok with. It was a shame however, because we got on so well over messages. It just seemed as the day arrived, a more condescending version of him came out. He wished me well as I got out and drove off.

He messaged me waffling on about a Chinese when he got home, I responded and he didn't reply. I messaged a little while later saying I'm obviously not what he was looking for and I'll respect that, politely saying we could remain friends if he wishes to and thanked him for the afternoon, he responded 4 hours later saying he'd like to be friends.
I know I've gone on here, but is this what's left out there? I'm a lower citizen because I don't drive, so am below him and deserve to be spoken to so rudely? I'd love to meet someone to share my time with when my son is in his dads house, do things with and share interests without being called a 'witch' or 'demon worshipper', or referred to as rough. I've been left feeling really bad about myself and really concerned that the only men left are arrogant or have drug/alcohol issues. Please share some positive relationship experiences and make me feel like I shouldn't give up hope just yet.

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TheHerboriste · 27/04/2025 10:43

mildlydispeptic · 27/04/2025 10:36

Yup, total tool. You definitely don’t have to stand for that kind of behaviour, OP.

One thing though (sorry if I’m misinterpreting here) really not a good idea to be in a car together on a first date. Did he pick you up from home? Best practice is to travel independently and meet on neutral territory. Luckily it sounds like he’s just a common or garden twat, but based on the way he was negging you right from the pre-date stage he could have been more a more dangerous kind of misogynist.

Yeah, all of this. Never give a stranger your home address or get in a car with them.

TheFormidableMrsC · 27/04/2025 10:47

He sounds like an absolute arsehole. Why on Earth would you want to be friends with him? He’s sat there and put you down, been rude and unkind. You’ve had a bloody lucky escape. Block him and move on. You deserve so much better than that prick and his hang ups.

LividRah · 27/04/2025 10:48

Kindly, he shouldn't have got as far as the date after those comments during the phone call.

This should be him on best behaviour.

Know your worth, and don't meet anyone who doesn't know it too.

It really is better to be alone than with that.

category12 · 27/04/2025 10:50

I did consider just getting the train home, as it's 15 minutes from where we live however, I didn't want to seem rude.

Next time you want to leave a date, don't worry about "being rude", just make your excuses and go.

Being more worried about the other person's feelings than your own comfort can lead to worse situations.

And remember, he didn't give a shiny shit about being consistently rude to you.

arethereanyleftatall · 27/04/2025 10:57

Oh op, you need to do even more work on yourself before you date again.

he was one ginormous bellend.

the VERY FIRST insult he gave you, before you’d even met, was it the long words?, should have been an instant text from you ‘I don’t think this will work for me. Best wishes.’ And a delete of his number, and remove him from your brain.

you needed to work out much quicker that you were the prize here, not him.

KarCat · 27/04/2025 11:15

I agree, I wouldn’t have got past the phone call.
WHAT a dickhead!
Onwards and upwards OP!

Misspotterer · 27/04/2025 11:26

I'd have been out of there after 10/15 mins. No way would I wait 30 minutes. That was your first red flag. And yeah, he was negging you. Insecure incompetent little man and thick to boot. You had a lucky escape. At least he showed you who he was straight away so you don't waste your time.

pinkdelight · 27/04/2025 11:32

I know I've gone on here, but is this what's left out there?

Nope, it's one crap guy. Don't lose hope on the basis of one crap guy, or even half a dozen of them. There are plenty of crap people but good ones too.

Mudflaps · 27/04/2025 11:32

You met a asshole just forget about him. What alarmed me is that you travelled in his car with him and told him where you live. I was very surprised by that, seems rather unsafe to me.

DogeCon · 27/04/2025 11:33

Slowdownxo · 27/04/2025 09:34

Hi @Windywuss, thank you for commenting. I don't actually want to be friends, I think I was just trying to be polite. The date went on for so long because he was giving me a history tour. Think he'd be reading Wikipedia however, because none of it was factually correct haha.

I shall do just that, I'm sure they'll have plenty to say. Thank you.

Yes, you met a pig. And you recognized it and gave him a wide berth. Just block him- he isn’t actually someone you want to be friends with because he is unfriendly and repeatedly insulted you.

I did wonder whether maybe he wasn’t so nice in the chat and you missed it? Could you post how that went?

Barrenfieldoffucks · 27/04/2025 11:35

My god, I would not have been apologising to him for using 'big words', allowing factual inaccuracies to stand, getting a lift home with him or saying "I'm not what you're looking for" and offering to be friends.

You were wayyyyyyy nicer than I would have been.

User5274959 · 27/04/2025 11:41

It sounds like a bad date! Chalk that one up to experience.

But it is concerning that you tolerated him being rude and unkind, and APOLOGISED to him for "using big words" wtf? Where's your self respect and your boundaries!

And as for saying you're not what he was looking for - would you really have wanted to continue if he had wanted to see you again? That's very worrying.

Do you think you have people-pleasing tendencies sometimes? (I definitely do...)

User5274959 · 27/04/2025 11:42

Don't be put off dating altogether! But I think you need to be quicker to throw them back. I suspect there were signs in the chat if you look back at it now.

Slowdownxo · 27/04/2025 11:50

Thanks all for your comments. Just to reassure everyone, I am perfectly capable of keeping myself safe, both in person and online. Very easy to project someone else's downfalls onto myself.

The man in question lives half a mile from myself, we actually live in the same area and know a few of the same people. The Freedom Programme is not appropriate for myself, perhaps again don't project his shortcomings onto the women he meets.

I came here looking to vent and for successful stories of couples meeting and being successful, I am by no means at risk of domestic abuse.

Thank you all again for your kind comments and success stories. They're greatly appreciated.

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localnotail · 27/04/2025 11:53

Dont go on dates with twats? You should have binned him after that phone conversation. Or, if you decided to go ahead - should have walked away after his first set of idiotic and rude comments.

Dont be friends with him, set your bar higher and stop apologising.

Slowdownxo · 27/04/2025 11:56

Regarding the chat, it was generally day to day activities. What we enjoyed doing in our free time. Placed we'd both been to on holiday and enjoyed. We briefly discussed what we were hoping to get out of online dating. We both work so the chats weren't all day long. I personally wouldn't want to message someone all day, I couldn't handle the constant chitchat.

The only red flag I could see in the chat as time went on was the banter. Not that it was really a red flag at all. I think what I'd taken for his sense of humour over messages, was him being that overbearing in real life.

Good luck to any lady who wishes to put up with that. I'm quite happy to put it down to experience and wave him off on his way. I'm out with my son for the day. Have a lovely Sunday all.

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Bumblebeestiltskin · 27/04/2025 12:09

As soon as someone is rude in a message/call, or negs you, or says anything you don't like, block them. Definitely don't meet them.

localnotail · 27/04/2025 12:13

The fact that you are saying you did not see anything wrong with his conduct suggests you really need to do more work before dating, or you will end up in a shit relationship. You need to understand that his behaviour was disrespectful and unacceptable.

Feelinglikeadiv · 27/04/2025 13:33

You sound fabulous, he sounds the opposite. Rude, uncouth and insulting. At least he didn't hide it and waste your time. Keep going. Please go through your OP and see what he did wrong. Next time don't tolerate this, it isn't banter, it's shit behaviour.

Pumpkinpie1 · 27/04/2025 14:08

Run fast and block the AH

EarthSight · 27/04/2025 15:22

Honestly fuck that OP.

he again pulled me up for having an extended vocabulary, I wasn't in my mind using fancy words but I apologised

He's an insecure thicko. A small man who is trying to soothe and enlarge his ego by making you feel small & silly.

He then said that when he commented on my accent, it's because he thought I sounded common

I understand why you were a bit stunned then. I would have been as well.

The rest of the time was him having subtle digs and jokes about me, while talking about things that were factually wrong

do things with and share interests without being called a 'witch' or 'demon worshipper

I'll wish him well and trust the process

I wouldn't. He sounds like a real dick. Most certainly is not a friend. Avoid.

EarthSight · 27/04/2025 15:22

localnotail · 27/04/2025 12:13

The fact that you are saying you did not see anything wrong with his conduct suggests you really need to do more work before dating, or you will end up in a shit relationship. You need to understand that his behaviour was disrespectful and unacceptable.

This.

Sweetrevenge91 · 27/04/2025 15:54

He sounds insufferable and you sound lovely, I don't know how you stuck him for 3 hours. At the first couple of comments, I think I would have called it a day.
I'm in my 40s, co parenting and have a son, I have been seeing a really lovely man for a few months now and I met him on a dating app. He has been consistent and kind since the first date. They are out there, you can definitely meet someone kind and decent , don't give up.

SnugCoralFinch · 27/04/2025 16:07

He was an arsehole… I would have and do leave when they’re like this, not something I want to waste my time on - I don’t bother anymore but the burned haystack method is helpful in weeding this type out, so maybe have a look at that? When I was dating and used it it did mean I didn’t meet any of the really dire ones, so it does work.

S0j0urn4r · 27/04/2025 16:23

He was putting you down before you even met. A lot of people do this when they feel insecure.
You don't have to be polite when someone's being a dick.
Always have an independent exit strategy when dating. And don't let a first date know where you live.
Online dating is okay if you can view it with a sense of humour and have a clear view of your own worth. Don't depend on it for your entire social life.
My bestie and I both met our dps online and met more than our fair share of eejits along the way. There is light at the end of the tunnel. ❤️

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