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Would like to hear you opinion about ongoing relationship

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20perfect20 · 25/04/2025 18:04

I would love to hear your opinion about my relationship, to see how it sounds to objective people from the outside.
We met on an app 4 months ago, the first month was very confusing on her part, both in terms of getting to know someone from the app that she wasn't okay with and in terms of her attraction to me starting from a place of character and not from a place of appearance (which for her was something she didn't recognize in herself and was new to her).
Slowly the relationship started to develop and really became amazing, and reached some kind of peak point.
I'll go back a little and tell a little about myself, I'm a person who gets attached very quickly, I'm a person who really likes to send warm things, and in general at the beginning of every relationship I talk a lot, I always ask what she wants to do and I won't decide only by myself, simply from a place that I want to know that she will also enjoy.
About a month ago, she really started to take a step back in the relationship. We had a conversation and talked about some things that wasnt working well, like the fact that we talked a lot, and that she is a less kitschy person and she had hard time with me telling a lot of love words, both because shes less kitschy and also because she doesn't feel the same level as I do in a relationship. As I said, I am a person who gets attached very quickly and she is less so.
So we talked and agreed on things. The truth is, these are not qualities that I like about myself. I know that it is not healthy to get attached quickly. I also know that it is not healthy to talk a lot on WhatsApp when starting a relationship. I already have scars by these things from the past. And I really liked the idea of trying to work on it and break those habits.
The problem started when I decided to take a step back in those things. I took it to the extreme, from 100 to 0. I decided to let her lead the conversation because that way I would know how much of it was okay for her. I decided to stop being so warm and looking back I feel like I had become really cold. It is also important to note that this was a period when we didn't see each other much because we both had vacations, so we didn't meet much either, which certainly didn't help. When she got back from her vacation , she brought up the subject again and asked me if it bothered me that we talked a little bit while her vacation, and added that it didn't bother her at all, which to be honest was very insulting. Of course it bothered me, I just didn't want to be annoying while shes with her family in vacation. I wanted her to have the freedom to enjoy herself with her family and I expected her send a message that when she was free and then we would talk. I didn't want to be annoying.
In This whole month there was a real step-by-step falling apart, from stopping sleeping together, to her impatience towards me which led to a very aggressive and dry vibe in our conversations from her side, things that used to be funny started to be "what's wrong with him".
last week I decided that Im tired of what was happening to me, I decided that I was going back to being who I am, stopping this coldness, become me again... Im not talking about returning to talk so much on whatsapp because it really didn't bother me, but yes returning to expressing warmth with good words, cute suprises and more... the problem that it was already too late(at least I think so).
We had a last conversation two days ago, we talked about everything, about two and a half hours of conversation, I talked about if we want to make things work again we mush change things,that aggression towards me have to stop, and that I can't understand where the step back is coming from because everything was so beautiful and good, we talked about things that bother her, and suddenly I started to understand that there are several things in her life that not working well right now, like family, studies, etc.. Could it be that I just became this convenient place to vent frustration?
We talked about the fact that it went from 100 to 0 and that she expected it to come from me and didn't understand what happend after the first talk and I expected it to come from her(like I said), and a few other things.
I'll add another detail that might influence your opinion, her experience in relationships is much greater than mine, she was in an on-and-off relationship for 4 years, went out a few more times, and I had one relationship of three and a half months and another of two months, nothing serious at all, after about a month and a half, we were at her place and I brought up the subject and asked if we defined ourselves as a couple (a conversation of definitions), and she found it very, very strange, in her opinion there's no need to define things at all... because it only matters if we're having a good time together, but for me it was more to get feedback from her, and that's also what I knew from the little I had, I tried to take that from a relationship I had before that was amazing while it was and apply it here too, I don't really care about that definition.
I'll go back to the last conversation I told you about, she ended up deciding to take a complete break from her side for a certain amount of time, I think it's from a place of checking if she feels I'm missing her (I don't think she will), and from a place that she needs to get her act together, it's not that she was aggressive and short-tempered towards me all the time, it bothered her and affected her a lot and I saw the look she had on herself that was very difficult for her to look at what she had become with me, she also said that. I asked her to take as much time as she needed.
I told her that it really more important to me that she will be well than with me (strange, I don't know, she really is important to me and I love her), I feel like the kind of person who would be there for people who were always good to me.
I don't want it to end, we decided to take a break because we both also know the amazing side we once had, and we don't want to give up right away and throw something that can be amazing.
I really love her, this situation hard for me.

OP posts:
WesleyNeverDies · 25/04/2025 18:49

I know this probably isn't what you want to hear, but it sounds like you're very different people, in terms of how you connect, how you express your feelings, how you approach romantic relationships...

Maybe you do need to try to slow it down a bit in the first stage of a relationship, but equally, if being warm and enthusiastic is your personality, you should be with someone who enjoys and loves that about you, rather than you having to repress a part of your personality in order to make her more comfortable. Equally, if she is uncomfortable with 'too much, too soon', she'd surely be happier with someone who is naturally like that.

It can be overwhelming to have someone get so invested in you so quickly, so you probably do need to work on that a bit. But if you're getting in your own head and working so hard to follow the 'rules' that you're almost pretending to be a whole different person, that's not good for you either.

itsmeits · 25/04/2025 18:49

Sounds like she should run for the hills.

You love 💣 her. Backed off dramatically. Then tried to love 💣 again.

You need to spend some time learning about health relationships.

1.5 months is not the time to be labelling things, even at 4 months you should still be getting to know each other, and having fun.
Sounds like this relationship has run it's course.

KidsDoBetter · 25/04/2025 18:50

itsmeits · 25/04/2025 18:49

Sounds like she should run for the hills.

You love 💣 her. Backed off dramatically. Then tried to love 💣 again.

You need to spend some time learning about health relationships.

1.5 months is not the time to be labelling things, even at 4 months you should still be getting to know each other, and having fun.
Sounds like this relationship has run it's course.

Edited

Bombed. It’s love bombed.

itsnotalwaysthateasy · 25/04/2025 23:04

I read half way through and thought that this relationship isnt ever going to work.
Please find a relationship that is less complicated. Relationships should be easy when you find the right person.

LouiseMadetheBestBroccoliPasta · 25/04/2025 23:39

Yeah. You should look up love bombing, because that's what you did to her, and thats why she's backed off - with good reason.

Love bombing is not ok because it's about dizzying and rushing someone into making a commitment to you. It's about controlling the other person and what you want from them rather than about really liking them for who they are personally. And this is a red flag to women with self esteem and experience - who could also be women who really like you for who you are, and therefore great partners for you.

You should slow your roll and read feminist literature to understand how you can grow in yourself and be attractive to not only others but also yourself.

20perfect20 · 26/04/2025 11:55

WesleyNeverDies · 25/04/2025 18:49

I know this probably isn't what you want to hear, but it sounds like you're very different people, in terms of how you connect, how you express your feelings, how you approach romantic relationships...

Maybe you do need to try to slow it down a bit in the first stage of a relationship, but equally, if being warm and enthusiastic is your personality, you should be with someone who enjoys and loves that about you, rather than you having to repress a part of your personality in order to make her more comfortable. Equally, if she is uncomfortable with 'too much, too soon', she'd surely be happier with someone who is naturally like that.

It can be overwhelming to have someone get so invested in you so quickly, so you probably do need to work on that a bit. But if you're getting in your own head and working so hard to follow the 'rules' that you're almost pretending to be a whole different person, that's not good for you either.

Do you think I should stop the break and declare im sorry and its over?

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20perfect20 · 26/04/2025 11:57

LouiseMadetheBestBroccoliPasta · 25/04/2025 23:39

Yeah. You should look up love bombing, because that's what you did to her, and thats why she's backed off - with good reason.

Love bombing is not ok because it's about dizzying and rushing someone into making a commitment to you. It's about controlling the other person and what you want from them rather than about really liking them for who they are personally. And this is a red flag to women with self esteem and experience - who could also be women who really like you for who you are, and therefore great partners for you.

You should slow your roll and read feminist literature to understand how you can grow in yourself and be attractive to not only others but also yourself.

You are right
I really didnt do it as a manipulative reasons, I just enjoyed it, and I backed up because she asked me to not because I wanted, I just took it to extreme and went from 100 to 0.
I messed up badly
Do you think I should stop the break and declare im sorry and its over?

OP posts:
20perfect20 · 26/04/2025 11:57

itsnotalwaysthateasy · 25/04/2025 23:04

I read half way through and thought that this relationship isnt ever going to work.
Please find a relationship that is less complicated. Relationships should be easy when you find the right person.

Do you think I should stop the break and declare im sorry and its over?

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20perfect20 · 26/04/2025 11:59

itsmeits · 25/04/2025 18:49

Sounds like she should run for the hills.

You love 💣 her. Backed off dramatically. Then tried to love 💣 again.

You need to spend some time learning about health relationships.

1.5 months is not the time to be labelling things, even at 4 months you should still be getting to know each other, and having fun.
Sounds like this relationship has run it's course.

Edited

I didnt back off because I wanted I did it because she ask me too.
The last thing I want is to harm her and I didnt try to munipulate her, I just really enjoyed all of this.
The problem was me good from 100 to 0 after she asked me to slow down.

Do you think I should stop the break and declare im sorry and its over?

OP posts:
itsmeits · 26/04/2025 12:11

Personally yes I do - not saying do it - just my opinion.

I also think you would benefit from doing some research on healthy relationships.

Even if you backed off as she asked you backed off very intensely. 100% flip in character effective, you also said her last relationship was 4 years of on/off!
I don't believe she is able to demonstrate a healthy relationship to you as she is used to 'breaks' which is what you are now on.
You should still be having fun at four months not having a break.

All relationships are different, same with people.

BeNiceWhenItsFinished · 26/04/2025 12:15

20perfect20 · 26/04/2025 11:57

Do you think I should stop the break and declare im sorry and its over?

Perhaps you should just stop repeating yourself.

20perfect20 · 26/04/2025 12:32

BeNiceWhenItsFinished · 26/04/2025 12:15

Perhaps you should just stop repeating yourself.

What do you mean by that?🙏

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LouiseMadetheBestBroccoliPasta · 26/04/2025 14:44

20perfect20 · 26/04/2025 11:59

I didnt back off because I wanted I did it because she ask me too.
The last thing I want is to harm her and I didnt try to munipulate her, I just really enjoyed all of this.
The problem was me good from 100 to 0 after she asked me to slow down.

Do you think I should stop the break and declare im sorry and its over?

"Do you think I should stop the break and declare im sorry and its over?"

The answer to your question is here:

"she ended up deciding to take a complete break from her side for a certain amount of time, I think it's from a place of checking if she feels I'm missing her (I don't think she will), and from a place that she needs to get her act together, it's not that she was aggressive and short-tempered towards me all the time, it bothered her and affected her a lot and I saw the look she had on herself that was very difficult for her to look at what she had become with me, she also said that. I asked her to take as much time as she needed."

You told her to take her time, probably just a few days ago. And now you want to force more contact with her. It's in the guise of wanting to end the relationship, but really, it's you wanting to contact her again. You're not respecting what she's saying, and you're just saying stuff to keep contacting her. It's very transparent.

You are also waaaay too intense and anxious, and your anxiety is making you (a) want to control her (which is not good at all and can lead to scary outcomes for women), and (b) imagine there's a real relationship.

You're been with this woman for 4 piddly months, of which a couple weeks at least was with her on holiday, and yet you imagine you love her:

"I told her that it really more important to me that she will be well than with me (strange, I don't know, she really is important to me and I love her)"

You don't know her, OP. Most people have social masks, some because they don't like who they are, some because they've not been taught to be authentic or are afraid to be authentic, and others because they want things from others. You will only know who someone is after much longer than 4 months.

So you cannot love her, because you don't know her. What you are loving is what you want from her, not the real person that she really is. You're projected all these yearnings on her, and don't see her at all. It's needy, overbearing, and not personal, and she probably sees that and finds it unappealing.

It sounds like you are an anxious, socially awkward, affectionate man who would really like to be in a relationship but you don't know how to achieve that. I recommend you seek therapy so that you become happier in yourself and learn to manage your anxiety. This will make you attractive to other people, including women. A relationship coach may also help you to manage your expectations and approach women as humans rather than as need-fillers.

With regard to the current Object of Attraction (I use the word Object on purpose, because I think you are objectifying her), you've told her you'll give her time, so stick to that. If she wants contact, she will contact you. If not, that's your answer.

SoloSofa24 · 26/04/2025 15:00

How old are you? You sound incredibly intense and a bit like some of my teenage boyfriends.

If all this has happened in the space of four months, I think you need to just back off and accept that this relationship is not working for either of you. And next time, really try to take things slowly and not love-bomb, don't fixate on the new person, and don't over-analyse everything. New relationships should be fun and easy as you get to know each other gradually.

20perfect20 · 26/04/2025 20:06

LouiseMadetheBestBroccoliPasta · 26/04/2025 14:44

"Do you think I should stop the break and declare im sorry and its over?"

The answer to your question is here:

"she ended up deciding to take a complete break from her side for a certain amount of time, I think it's from a place of checking if she feels I'm missing her (I don't think she will), and from a place that she needs to get her act together, it's not that she was aggressive and short-tempered towards me all the time, it bothered her and affected her a lot and I saw the look she had on herself that was very difficult for her to look at what she had become with me, she also said that. I asked her to take as much time as she needed."

You told her to take her time, probably just a few days ago. And now you want to force more contact with her. It's in the guise of wanting to end the relationship, but really, it's you wanting to contact her again. You're not respecting what she's saying, and you're just saying stuff to keep contacting her. It's very transparent.

You are also waaaay too intense and anxious, and your anxiety is making you (a) want to control her (which is not good at all and can lead to scary outcomes for women), and (b) imagine there's a real relationship.

You're been with this woman for 4 piddly months, of which a couple weeks at least was with her on holiday, and yet you imagine you love her:

"I told her that it really more important to me that she will be well than with me (strange, I don't know, she really is important to me and I love her)"

You don't know her, OP. Most people have social masks, some because they don't like who they are, some because they've not been taught to be authentic or are afraid to be authentic, and others because they want things from others. You will only know who someone is after much longer than 4 months.

So you cannot love her, because you don't know her. What you are loving is what you want from her, not the real person that she really is. You're projected all these yearnings on her, and don't see her at all. It's needy, overbearing, and not personal, and she probably sees that and finds it unappealing.

It sounds like you are an anxious, socially awkward, affectionate man who would really like to be in a relationship but you don't know how to achieve that. I recommend you seek therapy so that you become happier in yourself and learn to manage your anxiety. This will make you attractive to other people, including women. A relationship coach may also help you to manage your expectations and approach women as humans rather than as need-fillers.

With regard to the current Object of Attraction (I use the word Object on purpose, because I think you are objectifying her), you've told her you'll give her time, so stick to that. If she wants contact, she will contact you. If not, that's your answer.

First of all, I really appreciate the reply

you probably right about me wanting to make more contact with her😓, also about me being intense and anxious, but I dont want to control her, I never did, I just find it extermly painful to stay apart, about imagining theres a real relationship you probably right as well.
In 4 months you can learn a lot about a person, you talking everyday, meeting twice or three times a week, sleeping together, we even planned vacation together for a while, Its really hard for me to understand he can you not get attached in such period.
Im am anxious, im not socially akward, and I dont think Im objectifying her at all, I do want this relationship to work because I know how amazing of a person she is, and it sad for me think how I messed this all up.
In the end, Its important to me that she will be happy with or without me.

you are correct about the fact that I should give her the time I promised, even tho the messege I wanted to send is a breakup messege, that would probably finish it all, but I admit I had some hopes that a messege like this would change her mind, as a last try to get the relationship back, and as a way to finish my endless waiting of her answer.
I will not make contact and Ill give her the time she need to understand what she wants, even tho I believe this waiting will make me suffer and will end as breakup anyway

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BeNiceWhenItsFinished · 27/04/2025 18:08

20perfect20 · 26/04/2025 12:32

What do you mean by that?🙏

You repeated these exact words over and over in several posts:

"Do you think I should stop the break and declare im sorry and its over?"

S0j0urn4r · 27/04/2025 20:03

This all sounds far too much hassle for a 4 month relationship. It really shouldn't be this hard. Move on with kindness.

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