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Am I being gaslighted?

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Beaniebobbins · 24/04/2025 20:19

Me and DH are having a rough time and when I try to talk about things or explain why something upsets or me or explain my reasons for being angry DH just dismisses it or says it didn’t happen or that he doesn’t remember any of it. So a few examples:

There was an incident where his friends kids damaged stuff in our house and told me to fuck off when I asked them to stop. I told him this at the time but he just said “it was only stuff”. This really upset me at the time because I was very upset that he didn’t have my back. It left a vivid impression on me and I still feel upset by his response to it. But when I brought this up recently he just said that those kids wouldn’t have done that. So is this calling me a liar. Or is this gaslighting? Or is this all just semantics and he’s just a massive twat?

And another time I said I didn’t want this friend and his kid to come round anymore. Partly because of the kids behaviour, partly because of how much DH and his friend were drinking when they came round. And in response to that he got angry said I couldn’t have one of my close friends round. So my friend hasn’t been round since. But when I said that to DH this week he denied it at said he would never say that. But again this is something that obviously upset me and has had a big impact on me and I haven’t had my friend round because I didn’t want to cause trouble and why would I do that for no reason? He says that I stopped him seeing his friend but that isn’t true because they still go drinking every few weeks just not in my house or around kids.

He says I am always in a bad mood and it makes life stressful for him but I don’t think I am always in a bad mood. Sometimes I am and I do have a temper and I hate myself when I shout at the kids but I try not to do it and I think I do it less than he does. But again when he says that I’m always in a bad mood it trivialises my feelings. Like me being in a bad mood because I’ve been on my own with the kids all day while he’s done nothing to help so I am stressed and tired then somehow all comes back in me for being a bad person who is always grumpy and miserable and making him stressed.

So is this gaslighting or just someone being stubborn and unwilling to see my point of view? Or does it even matter if it has a name because it all makes me feel like shit? And what do I even do about it anyway? Feeling vulnerable right now so please don’t be too harsh with me.

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MounjaroMounjaro · 27/04/2025 12:43

Ugh, he's really awful. You deserve so much better. He's pathetic, too, saying he couldn't find his way to a hospital ward. He could find that out the moment he set foot in the hospital. He's an absolute disgrace.

Headingtowardsdivorce · 29/04/2025 13:14

You're not overreacting or overthinking. What do you want to do next?

Beaniebobbins · 29/04/2025 18:08

Headingtowardsdivorce · 29/04/2025 13:14

You're not overreacting or overthinking. What do you want to do next?

I really don’t know. I’m not even sure how much of that decision is in my hands. Part of me thinks him going to counselling is him working out how to end the relationship and part of me thinks maybe it’s a sign he’s trying to change. I have flip flopped all over the place the last few weeks.

I have spoken with a solicitor and that has been very reassuring. While they obviously can’t give any definite numbers at this stage and I don’t have full disclosure I do have a better idea of what the financial situation would be and while it would mean a new mortgage it shouldn’t be beyond me and I should still have a comfortable lifestyle. It has taken a weight off my mind and I don’t feel so scared any more. It’s helping me to view the end of the marriage as a change in a relationship rather than the end of my life as I know it.

I have had some long long talks with some brilliant friends and I have also referred myself for mental health therapy. My boss and close friend at work know what I am going through and have been incredibly supportive. I think it’s probably best that I don’t make any rash or hasty decisions but I also feel that if he wants to end it then off he goes. I have more than enough to be happy without him and I won’t be begging him to stay or throwing myself on the floor in histrionics.

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Headingtowardsdivorce · 29/04/2025 18:32

That's great! It sounds like you're in a much happier place now. As you can see from my username, I'm in a similar position and the relief of knowing that you'll be ok financially is massive.

I think you're right not to make any rash decisions. Having taken a while myself to end things, I can tell you that it's a lot easier when you know that you are definitely ready, especially when there are children involved.

PeggyMitchellsCameo · 29/04/2025 19:03

Having read your update, don’t go to therapy with this man. He drinks heavily for starters.
You need to do what’s right for you but I bet none of your friends have said…
You’re delusional he’s a lovely guy.
You sound like such a kind and caring person. Any man who leaves his wife for hours in a hospital intensive care situation is truly, truly awful.
Go to therapy on your own and start to rebuild your life. You are worth more than this, you deserve to be treated with kindness and respect.

b0zza1 · 29/04/2025 19:28

I went to couples therapy in a previous relationship. She was great and very highly qualified therapist and she didn't see the abuse (I didn't know I was in an abusive relationship at the time). I recommend reading (skim reading or just relevant parts is fine) Why Does He Do That? By Lundy Bancroft (he has made pdf free)

We have a son together and the way you coparent is by focusing on yourself. Including getting counselling for yourself. But personally I wouldn't recommend couples counselling until you have learnt about abuse.

It certainly does sound like gaslighting to me btw.

Beaniebobbins · 29/04/2025 20:56

Headingtowardsdivorce · 29/04/2025 18:32

That's great! It sounds like you're in a much happier place now. As you can see from my username, I'm in a similar position and the relief of knowing that you'll be ok financially is massive.

I think you're right not to make any rash decisions. Having taken a while myself to end things, I can tell you that it's a lot easier when you know that you are definitely ready, especially when there are children involved.

Thank you, I hope things are going well for you. my friend at work has commented that I look much better than I did at the start of the week, but this is a rollercoaster so just taking each day as it comes.

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Beaniebobbins · 29/04/2025 21:01

b0zza1 · 29/04/2025 19:28

I went to couples therapy in a previous relationship. She was great and very highly qualified therapist and she didn't see the abuse (I didn't know I was in an abusive relationship at the time). I recommend reading (skim reading or just relevant parts is fine) Why Does He Do That? By Lundy Bancroft (he has made pdf free)

We have a son together and the way you coparent is by focusing on yourself. Including getting counselling for yourself. But personally I wouldn't recommend couples counselling until you have learnt about abuse.

It certainly does sound like gaslighting to me btw.

What even happens in couples of therapy? Like what questions get asked or how does it even work? Do you get to talk about things that have happened or is it just someone listing all the horrible things they think about you?

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NeedToAskPlease · 29/04/2025 21:15

category12 · 25/04/2025 10:39

You do all your communication in writing or through a co-parenting app with someone like this. You meticulously document.

Mediation might work for the factual stuff in a split, but joint counselling will just get twisted on you.

I second this.

My XH would gaslight me. I truly thought l was loosing my memory and even now many years after we have split l don't trust my recollection of events.

We kept everything in writing and when he'd try and gaslight, l would screenshot the conversation back.

He soon stopped.

KangaRoo00 · 29/04/2025 21:20

He sounds like an abusive c**t. No point in going to counselling with someone like him.

He won’t change, you aren’t going crazy, he’s just manipulating the shit out of you and distorting your reality. You can’t see it clearly now because your right in the eye of the storm but one day you will understand it for what it really is, abuse.

i really hope you find the strength and courage to break free & understand your worth.

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