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Friend has lost it... what to do....

27 replies

Forest1971 · 01/04/2025 16:00

Help. I'm a 60 year old man who has three adult children in their early thirties, divorced around four years ago and the past couple of years started dating. I never met anyone really special until late last year, shortly after Christmas. She's everything I could ever want, smart, funny, fit, attractive and we have amazing chemistry. She's around 5 years younger than me. She gets on well with my two sons and my daughter and life suddenly feels really good.

The problem is my best friend. He's taken it really badly and has acted jealous right from the start. I liked this person for ages before I got up the nerve to ask her out. She works behind the bar in one of the local pubs we go to now and then and whenever I asked my mate should I ask her out, he gave me endless reasons why I shouldn't. That he knew she had a partner, she's probably going to say no because I'm a customer, that she probably would see it as harassment in her workplace. I ended up asking the manager of the pub would it be OK to ask her out and she laughed and said I didn't need to check.

Never mind, I asked her three days after Christmas and I'm so glad I did. My mate seemed happy to see me happy but something was off. He made a few snide comments that I allowed to let go, along the lines of age difference, which isn't all that much anyway, that she wasn't good enough for me, her job isn't good enough, so many trivial things.

Then I ran into a couple of issues with her and I allowed my own insecurities from previous dating failures to take over and in my head blew something fairly innocent out of all proportion. I asked my friend what he thought and he basically told me she must be seeing someone else behind my back and that he saw her with someone last year, that her behaviour is really cagey and if she can't answer my questions directly and immediately that I need to dump her.

I have been really upset so I sat down with her on Sunday and now I am very reassured that my concerns are in fact down to my insecurities. But best mate has kicked off, called ME names, called her a name I'm not allowed to write here, accused me of using him to meet women, that I have never been a good friend to him, that I am a fool to keep seeing her when she is clearly using me. That I needn't bother meeting up again with him if I continue to date her.

Interestingly other friends have NOT advised me to end it and never give her the time of day again and when I've told them how best mate is behaving, they are horrified at how cruel and rude he has been.

I have known my best friend for around 25 years now. He has been in at least one abusive relationship that left him financially broken as well as on his knees for a few years afterwards and I think he is reacting based on his OWN stuff. He won't see sense though and every time I try to call him he declines the call. I tried this morning and it looks as if he has blocked me now.

I don't know what to do. I've fallen in love with this new woman, I will continue to be careful but it feels as if we have something very special.

I don't want to lose it and I feel as if my friend is emotionally blackmailing me. Surely he can't just drop 25 years of knowing each other so easily?

OP posts:
mindutopia · 01/04/2025 19:24

He is either jealous because he has a thing for her, or insecure because he doesn’t want to see you happy. I used to have a friend who openly admitted that she’d only have fat friends (her description not mine, I’m not thin!), because she was insecure and always wanted to be the ‘skinnier and prettier’ one. I bet he liked you more when you were single because it made him feel better about himself in some way.

Emelie1 · 01/04/2025 20:14

OP - what are your friend's concerns exactly? In what way does he think she is using you?

And what are/were your concerns about her?

Five years is no age difference at your age/s.

if she can't answer my questions directly - what questions?

GreyCarpet · 01/04/2025 20:46

He's either pissed off that you got the girl or worried he's going to lose his mate.

IME those are generally the only reasons men behave like this.

If he had actually tangible reasons, he'd be able to explain them.and be concerned for you rather than throwing insults around.

blacksax · 01/04/2025 20:49

Tell your friend to fuck off and mind his own business.

Job done.

Binglebong · 01/04/2025 21:17

Insecurity or jealousy. He may be letting his past cloud the issue.

I am worried that you say you have fallen in love after just three months though - that is very fast and if it is his past that he's seeing that probably makes it worse. Instant "love" can be a red flag. Not saying there is anything in it but keep things light for a bit - no need to rush.

Have fun!

BountifulPantry · 01/04/2025 21:25

Maybe he has had friends abandon him after finding love and doesn’t want to lose you? Make it clear you want to spend time with him and make some plans perhaps? Make sure you don’t talk about her 100% of the time.

Missj25 · 01/04/2025 21:42

Forest1971 · 01/04/2025 16:00

Help. I'm a 60 year old man who has three adult children in their early thirties, divorced around four years ago and the past couple of years started dating. I never met anyone really special until late last year, shortly after Christmas. She's everything I could ever want, smart, funny, fit, attractive and we have amazing chemistry. She's around 5 years younger than me. She gets on well with my two sons and my daughter and life suddenly feels really good.

The problem is my best friend. He's taken it really badly and has acted jealous right from the start. I liked this person for ages before I got up the nerve to ask her out. She works behind the bar in one of the local pubs we go to now and then and whenever I asked my mate should I ask her out, he gave me endless reasons why I shouldn't. That he knew she had a partner, she's probably going to say no because I'm a customer, that she probably would see it as harassment in her workplace. I ended up asking the manager of the pub would it be OK to ask her out and she laughed and said I didn't need to check.

Never mind, I asked her three days after Christmas and I'm so glad I did. My mate seemed happy to see me happy but something was off. He made a few snide comments that I allowed to let go, along the lines of age difference, which isn't all that much anyway, that she wasn't good enough for me, her job isn't good enough, so many trivial things.

Then I ran into a couple of issues with her and I allowed my own insecurities from previous dating failures to take over and in my head blew something fairly innocent out of all proportion. I asked my friend what he thought and he basically told me she must be seeing someone else behind my back and that he saw her with someone last year, that her behaviour is really cagey and if she can't answer my questions directly and immediately that I need to dump her.

I have been really upset so I sat down with her on Sunday and now I am very reassured that my concerns are in fact down to my insecurities. But best mate has kicked off, called ME names, called her a name I'm not allowed to write here, accused me of using him to meet women, that I have never been a good friend to him, that I am a fool to keep seeing her when she is clearly using me. That I needn't bother meeting up again with him if I continue to date her.

Interestingly other friends have NOT advised me to end it and never give her the time of day again and when I've told them how best mate is behaving, they are horrified at how cruel and rude he has been.

I have known my best friend for around 25 years now. He has been in at least one abusive relationship that left him financially broken as well as on his knees for a few years afterwards and I think he is reacting based on his OWN stuff. He won't see sense though and every time I try to call him he declines the call. I tried this morning and it looks as if he has blocked me now.

I don't know what to do. I've fallen in love with this new woman, I will continue to be careful but it feels as if we have something very special.

I don't want to lose it and I feel as if my friend is emotionally blackmailing me. Surely he can't just drop 25 years of knowing each other so easily?

100% jealous because you’ve found someone ! !
You just need to leave him be , I know that’s not easy as ye have been friends for so long , but you’re hardly going to throw away your happiness for him ..
Hopefully he will see sense & cop on 🤞…
You just have to wait & see …
I wouldn’t try to contact him anymore, it’s up to him to come to you ..
Very wrong of him aswel to say what he has been saying, if he does contact you but starts with all his crap again , you need to shut it down straight away & explain that you’re simply not having it 🤷🏻‍♀️…
That you’d love to be friends, but if he doesn’t show respect for your relationship & can’t manage to be happy for you , you can’t see how it’s possible to be friends ..

That’s lovely that you have found someone btw ☺️

Largestlegocollectionever · 01/04/2025 21:46

That’s not a friend…..

TheGaaTheSkaAndTheRa · 01/04/2025 21:50

Why would you bother with him. He's an obnoxious prick.

He has literally done everything in his power to split the pair of you up despite he has seen how happy she has made you. He's a frigging snake. Block and delete.

WakingUpToReality · 01/04/2025 21:55

Wow, he’s really not being a good friend to you. It’s not easy to meet someone nice you get on with and they like you back. He should be happy for you. Go for it!

Funny he said his ex was abusive. Was she really? Maybe he was. He seems pretty selfish to me.

Crazybaby123 · 01/04/2025 22:22

Habe tou teo been drinking buddies, whiling away time together whilst talking about your unlucky relationship histories? He has now lost that connection with you, you are moving on and happy and he is not.
I think you can reach out to him one morw time for the sake of 25 years and explain that you are happy and you are not concerned about your current relationship, that things will either go well, or they might not but right now things are good. And that you are still his friend, if he wants that, but he can't dictate who you date.

Forest1971 · 10/04/2025 13:52

So he reached out and apologised a few days ago and I have also apologised. All by text (I can hear people saying typical man etc...). But it hasn't been discussed as it really feels as if the trust has been completely broken now and other friends are advising me to take a step back and just let the friendship go.

I've since had a text asking me to return a book that I borrowed a few weeks ago. I have a few other things belonging to him, including a couple of tools, a pair of garden shears. I've offered to drive over with them and have been instructed to "leave them outside". My new GF thinks he has a bruised ego and is in some kind of a huff. I think I've now gone past the point of caring.

OP posts:
Forest1971 · 10/04/2025 13:57

WakingUpToReality · 01/04/2025 21:55

Wow, he’s really not being a good friend to you. It’s not easy to meet someone nice you get on with and they like you back. He should be happy for you. Go for it!

Funny he said his ex was abusive. Was she really? Maybe he was. He seems pretty selfish to me.

I'm really starting to see how his words do not align with his actions at all.

I'm also wondering whether he was in fact the abusive one in his previous relationship. Maybe they were just as bad as each other. But the aggression in his voice, the insincerity... did he ever really care or was he just hiding his true self?

I know he was taking drugs at one point, cocaine, and was struggling with alcohol dependency. Another friend pointed out how some of his messages sounded as if he was back on the hard drugs. It would explain a lot, but I'm done making excuses for a person who is treating me worse than poo under his shoe.

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WeeOrcadian · 10/04/2025 13:58

He's either jealous or worried you'll step back from the friendship

Leave him be

Return the book etc and take a massive step back, he already has

CorvusPurpureus · 10/04/2025 14:08

OK, let's say he was right about your new lady friend - she's an absolute wrong 'un (not saying she is AT ALL! She sounds fab).

He'd still be being a bloody awful mate. All he needs to say is 'look, I'm a bit worried you're getting in too deep, too quickly, & I'm not too sure about her because...'

...& then accept that he's said his piece, & you, as a grown ass man, will make your OWN romantic decisions.

If he'd honestly said 'I'm a bit lonely & seeing you all loved up & with less time for me is making me a bit glum...any chance we can carry on having a chaps' night out every couple of weeks...?' then maybe fair enough.

But what he's actually doing is being a selfish, controlling knobhead who can't bear to see his mate having fun.

You need to leave him to it. Either he'll get over himself, or he won't. But you can't do yourself or tbh him, any good by indulging his tantrums.

Boopeedoop · 10/04/2025 14:22

He is in love with one of you.

SheridansPortSalut · 10/04/2025 14:28

There's nothing for you to do here. The ball is in his court. All you can do is leave him to it and hope that he eventually cops himself on.

Mothership4two · 10/04/2025 14:29

Boopeedoop · 10/04/2025 14:22

He is in love with one of you.

Came on to say just this. He sounds massively jealous and (from his comments) not a true friend.

Hdjdb42 · 10/04/2025 14:43

He's jealous and probably fancies her. I'd take a step back from this friendship, but leave the lines of communication open.

ByQuaintAzureWasp · 10/04/2025 19:11

Sorry, but he's not really a good friend is he?

Missj25 · 10/04/2025 22:25

ByQuaintAzureWasp · 10/04/2025 19:11

Sorry, but he's not really a good friend is he?

Nope , he sure is not 🤷🏻‍♀️

Marineboy67 · 11/04/2025 10:15

Unfortunately this friendship has come to the end of the road. Who knows what's going on in his head. On the face of it he's clearly angry and upset that he's losing time with his friend, posibly jealous of your relationship maybe even fancied her his self. A genuine friend would be happy for you and glad to see you happy. Of course it will mean more time on your own but that's just life, it's always moving on.
I stuck by a friend I'd known for over 20 years when the idiot had an affair with his wife's sister, everyone turned their backs on him understandably but I was building a house for him at the time and had to see it through.
After a few years he had a heart attack and had a stent fitted, I was there for him throughout. 6 months later they discovered I had a birth defect in my heart and had open heart surgery, nearly died and had to have a long recovery. I didn't hear a peep out of him for 7 months then got a weak and wimpy txt. from him. It really hurt as we were like brothers or so I thought, but that was it...friendship over! It happens and its not your fault! Cut him out your life now you've seen the true person he is!

lifeisgoodrightnow · 11/04/2025 10:28

I had a mate like this who hated the fact that I’d left a very unhappy ‘relationship’ and then met the man of my dreams ( 29 years happily married now and counting). She was staying in a very unhappy marriage with a man 18 years her senior waiting for him to die so she’d inherit and be free. She died early he’s still around.

Forest1971 · 24/04/2025 17:26

So.... we have met up to "repair" things... at his suggestion.... and what a disaster it was. He turned up drunk.... then proceeded to drink really heavily all night and it transpired that the only reason he wanted to meet up was because he was hoping he would run into a woman he has been talking to online who said she was going to be in that particular pub on that night. She texted him to say she was going somewhere else and he kept nagging me to go to the other pub and I refused.

We barely talked about what happened and how hurt I felt, how he hurt me... the stuff he said.... I went home early as I got really angry with him. He almost started not one fight, but two, with random strangers who apparently were staring at him.

He has serious issues with heavy drinking and pre-existing mental health and I'm done. I'm starting to see him in a new light. It's not the first time I've had to talk him down from starting an argument or a physical fight. He's not worth any more of my time. I've been calling him since to see if he's OK and he doesn't even have the decency to pick up or send me a text message.

People show us who they are eventually!

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S0j0urn4r · 24/04/2025 17:39

If he's not worth any more of your time why are you still calling him? 😂
Walk away.
He's shown you who he is. Believe him.