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Mini rant about my Mum - am (probably) being unreasonable but need to let off steam!

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StudyingMum · 14/05/2008 19:57

Am a regular but have namechanged in case some family member recognises me.

Just to set the context: Mum took early retirement several years ago. Dad still works full time and as he loves his job is likely to keep going till he's 65 (another 4 years). Mum is (again in my opinion and she says as much herself) a bit lonely and in need of some company during the days. She does not have any structured hobbies and spends the majority of her time pottering about the house and occasionally meets up with other friends who are retired.

We live 200 miles away from my parents who live in a pretty rural area. MIL lives abroad. We have no other close family living nearby.

DD is now 20 months. During my pregnancy and while I was on maternity leave (and even now) my Mum talks a lot about us moving closer to them so that she can 'do her bit' (her words not mine). When I was a child my Mum's parents looked after me and my cousin as our parents worked very much full time. They lived close to us, had us every day before and after school, all school holidays and some evenings. My Mum therefore does not have any experience of what it means to arrange any other kind of childcare. That cousin had a baby just after DD was born and her parents are very hands on with their grandson - look after him 2 days a week, extra if someone is ill, etc.

I work from home quite a bit and DP has arranged his hours to suit our family so DD goes to a childminder three mornings a week and the rest of the time either DP and/or I are at home with her. This suits us very well and we are lucky to be able to arrange it like this.

Whilst I was on maternity leave and since I have returned to work I have made a big effort to take DD to visit my parents and extended family quite a bit. DP works some weekends so it's almost always just me and DD who make the trip. When we are there my parents are pretty hands off. I do everything practical with/for DD - bathing, changing nappies and clothes, cooking, feeding, clothes washing if we are staying longer, etc. My Mum despite her spoken desire to have us closer spends a lot of the time behaving as though our presence is interfering with her routine and obessively clean/tidy house. She spends most of the time following around after DD tidying up behind her - a thankless task as DD then turns round and undoes all the tidying - and will not listen when I tell her that I will tidy up everything when DD goes to bed, but there's really no point in doing it constantly as you would spend your whole day doing nothing but that. Even when we haven't seen them for weeks on end, the first thing she does after we arrive is immediately start tidying up - barely even picks DD up for a cuddle. Her idea of playing with DD is to stick Cbeebies on literally from the moment DD is awake until the time she goes to bed. I am beginning to find it pretty stressful and sadly think our visits are going to have to be spaced out even more. She's not like that when she comes to visit us thankfully but that's very rare as she doesn't seem to want to stay here . Last year DP and I had a bit of a rough time with things what with one thing and another, he had some problems with his health and I was very down for a time, I still went to work and everything but was ill etc. At no point throughout any of this did my Mum offer to come and look after DD for a day or two, in fact she even cancelled one weekend she had planned to come and stay, Mum and I had planned on going to some event and in the end we couldn't go as DP was too unwell to look after DD so told me that she didn't think she'd bother coming after all.

I am an only child and my Mum simply cannot understand why anyone would want more than one child. She talks a lot to me about the negative aspects of having more than one - expense, sibling rivalry, etc. She is the middle of three girls and has a superficially ok but deep down very problematic relationships with both her sisters. It's becoming a bit like a stuck record now the way she goes on and on about how difficult it would be to have more than one and I am starting to think that's why she is not more hands on with DD - almost as though she is trying to 'prove' to me how difficult it should be so that I won't want any more. I really don't understand it. . When DD grew out of her Moses basket my parents offered to store it at their house as we didn't have enough room at the time. I casually asked my Mum to make sure it was somewhere dry as we would hopefully need it again sometime in the future and her response was 'if you think you're bringing two here in nappies, you can think again'. I wouldn't mind but she has probably changed DD's nappy about 3 times in 16 months so it's not as though she's elbow deep in nappies constantly. And I was pretty miffed as the reason I take DD there is for her to have a well-developed relationship with her grandparents and aunts and uncles, etc. not so that my mother can change her nappy ffs.

Anyway, what has made me particularly fed up at the moment is that our childminder has just told us that she will be going into hospital for a minor operation probably in October and will be out of action for about a month. We had planned a 2-week holiday in the summer but now it looks as though we might have to change our plans, use our annual leave separately to cover the time that the CM will be unavailable. I mentioned this to my Mum today - I was not expecting her to offer to help or anything - but her response was to sniff and then say, 'and you think you'd be able to cope with two'...am feeling pretty hurt at the moment.

All the talk about wanting us to live closer and to be honest I've got no idea why as she behaves like we are such a bloody burden most of the time.

It's such a contrast with MIL who is constantly asking when we're having another and when she is here is hands on to the point of obsession won't let me anywhere near DD at all. Sigh. Families.

OP posts:
cupsoftea · 14/05/2008 20:07

Thank goodness you are 200 miles away from your mum - it sounds like she has issues on having one dd herself and perhaps doesn't feel confident with parenting skills as she'd like to be - hence all the tidying up (keeping her selfoccupied) & tv

her comment of "'and you think you'd be able to cope with two'...am feeling pretty hurt at the moment. " is really mean (sorry to write this)

I would streer clear of asking her for help - even if it means two weeks leave gone.

If she calls everything is great & wonderful as you are super mum - tell her all the activities you & your dd do.

You sound a fab mum and if you & dh want more kids go for it.

pixiepip · 15/05/2008 09:01

I wonder if your mum wanted more children but couldn't have any? Is she jealous? Is she the middle sister of 3? Three is a very tricky number f or a family and one child often feels left out. Maybe if your mum felt that, it made her decide not to have more than one child- but maybe deep down she wanted more. Some people decide to have an only child as they think it's a "neat and easy"way to have a family- no problems etc etc- which makes me think her own childhood was unhappy. There are all kinds of possibilities for her behaviour, which would really need a psychoanalyst to talk to her.

She obviously has issues and sounds on the verge of OCD with her attitude to tidiness- at a guess, I'd say it is about control or feeling secure - at some point in her life she might have NOT felt in control, and this is her way of trying to make herself feel secure.

You will never be able to get to the bottom of it. All you can do, is to be your own person and not allow yourself to be bullied by her. Maybe you can have a chat with her about her obssessive tidying up, but she might be too old to change?

toodles · 15/05/2008 09:23

I don't think it's a good idea to move closer to your Mum if she behaves this way. I don't think she'd do anything more to help you if you did. I agree with pixiepip's post.

I have a Mother who does the obsessive cleaning/tidying up after the children. I let her get on with it. I'm not going to do it before they go to bed or we leave the house for a trip or something. It's crazy.

Mine also didn't want me to have my third. After so many chats about 'oh no you're not going to have a third, how could I cope', I told her that when I was actually pregnant with my third that's all I wanted to hear from her was Congratulations. I phoned her when I was pregnant to tell her and she said in a phoney high pitched squeaky voice 'Congratulations' because she remembered what I said to her but I knew she didn't mean it. She was never hands on anyway and months would pass between each visit so how a third would affect her I don't know. She didn't want to worry about me being pregnant again and going through childbirth. Quite selfish imo.

Anyway haven't helped you at all in this post. You have my sympathies though.

SlartyBartFast · 15/05/2008 09:29

she sounds bitter and what a relief she is so far away. for you though.

on the holiday problem, can't you take you annual holiday in october when cm is away?

as you were her only one and she worked so much she perhaps is not very maternal.
was your relationship ok prior to children?

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