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How to handle this? Awkward (and long)

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ChoctawBingo · 31/03/2025 14:09

Name change for this one, but I've been around for about 15 years.

I am part of a large mixed social group loosely connected to a voluntary activity that some of us are or have been involved with. DH is not as sociable as me, so he is not involved with this activity or the group, but we are happily married and celebrated our 20th anniversary recently. Our marriage is not 'open', but it is relaxed and generally I have not issue with DH's female friends and he has no issue with my male friends.

Another member of the group is John whose wife died swiftly and brutally last summer. I like John well enough in a social context, but I do not find him in any way attractive and even if I were single, I would have no interest in him. DH is fully aware of this.

At John's DW's funeral I promised his DS that I would keep an eye on John and make sure he was all right and this I have done face to face as part of the group and via text message. His DS lives 200 miles away and I thought this was a reasonable thing to do. We kept in touch by text message and would probably see each other in a group two or three times a week. DH has always known about this and had no concerns.

John went away over Christmas and since he came back everything has changed. He now tells me that he loves me and has done for several years, going back to when his DW was alive. This has made me very uncomfortable.I liked his DW a lot and think this was very unfair to her and her memory. He keeps trying to get me to meet him alone, which I will not do. Indeed I would not do it even if I could. It feels like it is becoming a constant tussle, with John trying to push the boundaries and me pushing back. I have not told DH about this bit, He has ongoing health problems and I don't want to upset him. I have told John repeatedly that this is not on. He says he understands, backs off and then a couple of days later it all starts again.

Things have now come to a head because John has told another member of the group about his feelings for me. I was absolutely horrified, but it has brought things to a head. This has to stop. I have received a number of text messages over the weekend, which I have not opened. From the previews, it seems John thinks our 'relationship' is now over, although as far as I am concerned, there never was a relationship. At some point I have to open those messages and respond in some way, but how?

Twenty years ago I was stalked by a neighbour, who appeared to believe erroneously that we had been in a relationship at a time when I was already with now DH. I endured three years of abuse from him, while simultaneously being victim blamed and intimidated by the Police. I had to leave my home in the end and moved in with DH, because it was not safe for me to stay. The current situation feels a bit like how that started, which is making me very nervous.

Five years ago I met up a couple of times during lockdown with a work colleague. As soon as he started telling me some very personal things about his marriage, I walked away. Literally. Two days later he died in a freak accident. I still haven't processed that.

I can sit here and fret about it all or I can ask for advice. I know what I need to do. I just don't quite know how to do it so that it sticks and so that I don't have to give up my entire social life and years of voluntary work because of someone else's unwelcome and unsolicited behaviour.

Anyone please? Thank you.

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wrongthinker · 31/03/2025 14:15

Oh dear. I think maybe don't read the messages. No response might be the best response, although I would screenshot everything and show your husband so he isn't blindsided if the news reaches him another way.

Maybe contact John's son and explain the situation and say that you feel uncomfortable?

If you do contact John, I think you need to be really, really clear, e.g. "I feel really uncomfortable about all these messages from you. I do not and have never had any romantic feelings towards you. I don't think it's appropriate for us to stay in touch in future without other people also being present."

Nosaucelikemintsauce · 31/03/2025 14:22

Firstly John is an adult. He doesn't need keeping an eye on. Block him...contact on the group chat and irl in groups only.

ginasevern · 31/03/2025 15:43

Widowers/divorced men don't waste much time trying to get in someone else's knickers in my experience. He's trying it on and (like a lot of men) has no shame or boundaries. He wants a shag and someone to mother him. He's picked on you because out of all of the group it's you that's offered comfort and he thinks you're a soft option. It could easily have been another woman in the group. Reply to John with a short, succinct message and tell him in no uncertain terms that his son asked you to "keep an eye" on him but you have absolutely no interest otherwise and you are extremely upset and embarrassed by the situation. Tell him to never contact you again. Definitely do not speak to the son, that would be a mistake. Also show your husband the messages and tell him just what you've told us.

Bittenonce · 31/03/2025 18:05

Tell your DH now - before someone else does.
When you tell John to back off, not to contact you or see you alone - also let him know your DH is aware of everything. I guess if you were my wife, I'd be fine with knowing he'd been rebuffed but if he then stepped out of line at all, I would not be at all OK with it.
It sounds like you're really comfortable with knowing men just as friends - I think that often women are better at this than men, just be aware that if a man is not in a happy stable relationship, then many will read more into it.

PullTheBricksDown · 31/03/2025 18:14

Yes, tell your DH. Show him that you've not read the messages. Tell him you can open them in front of him, you have nothing to hide, this is all John.

I would also tell the group leader. Sunlight is the best disinfectant. If John leaves the group, that's on him. You've done nothing wrong and shouldn't sacrifice your life and social circle.

category12 · 31/03/2025 18:22

You need to tell dh that John's crossed a line and been making you feel awkward.

Otherwise he may hear it from someone else at this point.

ChoctawBingo · 01/04/2025 12:34

Thank you everyone. I have texted John this morning and told him I need him to back off - and now for some reason I feel absolutely awful.

He, on the other hand, has replied to say that he is very sorry and I have his word that he will not trouble me again. I hope he will stick to this.

A small group of us, including me and John, are supposed to be going to the theatre in four weeks time, but I will cross that bridge when I come to it.

Thank you to all of you for your advice.

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