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How long does it take to forgive & forget?

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Dubmam · 27/03/2025 20:56

Hi, with my partner over 25 years. Have 2 children, the youngest just turned 20. Just before Christmas, I found messages between him & a work colleague, v flirty. One of his messages to her was that she was an AMAZING flirt, this was shortly after their Christmas party. Lots of messages back & forth where she keeps telling hom that "I've made myself clear" in relation to her feelings about him. The last message was from my OH to her asking to meet up - this is when i saw the messages & confronted him. He swears it meant nothing & he was just flattered by her attention. Regardless, he responded & from his messages to her seemed v keen. I was gutted & he seemed genuinely ashamed & upset. He has been going for counselling for the past 2 months & communication between us is so much better. In fact, i feel we are so much closer than we have been in years. But there is still doubt in my mind, no matter how I try to stop the negative thoughts. I am also really annoyed with myself that I spoke to him as soon as I saw the messages, with his last one being from him asking to meet up. He swears this was to meet her & put her straight - that whatever was going on between them had to stop. I don't really believe this but have no way of knowing for sure as he stopped messaging her when I discovered their messages. They both work together although he works mainly from home. I feel he is really trying to mend our relationship but I am still feeling hurt & confused. I want to believe that this flirtation meant nothing to him but how do you really know? And when will I stop feeling so shit?

OP posts:
Horationor · 28/03/2025 05:11

It takes a long time.

We were at 25 years too, when my OH had a brief affair.

I know Mumsnet like to say LTB.

We stayed together and are working on it. It's hard work, my husband was very open about facts, which I seemed to need to know. He was very remorseful and I believe him.

I don't regret staying, we focus very much on communication and future plans. We're two years in, and it does get easier but it still crosses my mind sometimes.
Husband said the other day that were much stronger as he realises that he nearly lost "us", I'm not so sure, but know I'm much happier with him then without.

CustardCream31 · 28/03/2025 05:41

livelovelough24 · 27/03/2025 21:52

I would never stay with someone who cheated on me or attempted to. I honestly believe that it is personality trait and cannot be fixed. If he did it once there is absolutely no reason for me to believe that he would not do it again.

To those women who did stay with their partners, I would say, good for you, if you were able to find your peace and trust them again, that is amazing. I just would never be able to do that, and do not see why I should. You choose your partners based on love, trust and respect. When cheating they are proving that they do not actually feel any of this for you, so a person I once chose to spend my life with would not qualify anymore.

Also, I agree with @AnonAnonmystery how would therapy help a man in this situation. Adultery is not a mental health issue, it is a matter of morals and honour.

I fully echo this. My ex husband did things like this from pretty much day one. I was young and naive. Kept trying to forgive and forget. “It’s only flirting/banter”, he’d tell me each time. He was a self obsessed narc who craved the attention of others. He didn’t change. He had an affair. It took me a long long time to heal from it and trust anyone again.

I’m so sorry you’re going through this. But my thoughts are the intention is/was there with this colleague - it’s likely to happen again. My ExH also went to counselling to look like he was trying to work things out, but it was all for show.

Wishing you luck and strength.

edited to add: I’m now remarried to an incredibly wonderful caring doting man who has shown me what true love and dedication is. My ExH cheating was the best thing that could have happened (even if it was HORRENDOUS at the time!!).

Purplecatshopaholic · 28/03/2025 05:50

sprigatito · 27/03/2025 21:07

I am sorry to be blunt, but I would advise you to stop flogging a dead horse and split up. You can’t trust him. You’ll never trust him again. If you don’t make the break now, you’ll end up doing it further down the line, having wasted years of your life trying to make the best of something that is broken.

Sorry op, but this. You can’t trust him, and they are still working together. I couldn’t live with that, you’ll never relax. Only you know if this relationship is worth trying to save but I agree with Sprig above, it’s already broken.

beetr00 · 28/03/2025 06:11

I'm always baffled by these types of threads.

When your husband/partner decides to look outside of your relationship for an ego (or another kind) of stroke, then that, would be the end for me, personally.

The ONLY exception I would consider for forgiveness, would be, is, if we had young children, whose lives could be totally disrupted.

Even then, I could never forget.

As a woman, I lived, breathed and walked in this world before any relationship.

I really cannot comprehend allowing someone else to shatter my sense of worth and accepting it. If, I am not enough, then off you pop

Raise the bar @Dubmam

rockingbird · 28/03/2025 06:22

From my own experience it never goes away. There will always be triggers and once the resentment sets in it takes over your mind. The person you knew and loved is gone, replaced with a man who has told many lies for a cheap thrill. I left eventually and my only regret is I didn’t do it sooner for the sake of my own mental wellbeing.

daisychain01 · 28/03/2025 06:43

Trust is hard-won and easily lost. Without trust in the relationship, it's pointless and better to walk away. Raise your bar OP, you deserve better. And be prepared, if you do decide to walk away, for your partner to grovel at your feet begging for forgiveness. People like him not only want the attention from others, they also can't bear to be rejected, it hurts their fragile ego.

Orangesinthebag · 28/03/2025 06:52

Your relationship will never be the same , doesn't matter how much time goes by.
I'm sorry to be so depressing but that's the truth. You have seen the dark side and you can't unsee it now.

Your decision is whether you can permanently accept a relationship that is less than you had before you knew.

AnonAnonmystery · 28/03/2025 06:55

I think with these things, the heart doesn’t want to accept what the head already knows. I think the thing that angers me is that the party that is innocent ( you) are left with the burden of trying to heal, get through triggers and intrusive thoughts while the cheating party can let out a sign of relief with their feet comfortably under the table,

WakingUpToReality · 28/03/2025 07:32

beetr00 · 28/03/2025 06:11

I'm always baffled by these types of threads.

When your husband/partner decides to look outside of your relationship for an ego (or another kind) of stroke, then that, would be the end for me, personally.

The ONLY exception I would consider for forgiveness, would be, is, if we had young children, whose lives could be totally disrupted.

Even then, I could never forget.

As a woman, I lived, breathed and walked in this world before any relationship.

I really cannot comprehend allowing someone else to shatter my sense of worth and accepting it. If, I am not enough, then off you pop

Raise the bar @Dubmam

As a woman, I lived, breathed and walked in this world before any relationship.

This, 100%.

alwaysdeleteyourcookies · 28/03/2025 07:49

Presumably, he repeatedly lied to your face and justified that to himself. Consequently, if he said the sky was blue, I'd have to check. I wouldn't want to have to do that for the rest of my life.

offmynut · 28/03/2025 08:06

We dont forget we just get better at it.
We forget we had feelings for said people and move on when someone becomes unimportant to us there is no feelings left.
With anyone having an affair i no i wouldn't stay because if they love you that much they wouldn't have don it in the first place.
And i would not want to feel like second best or the other option for him.
Having the thoughts of maybe he will do it again.
Everyone is different and if you can work through it good for you but its something i cant do im worth more than that.

FreddoSwaggins · 28/03/2025 08:06

I don't think there's a specified timescale, for some it will be never; for some it'll be once they feel he's shown or said the right amount of regret; others it'll be just as long as he doesn't leave them; some may even blame themselves and think it's them that need to change to get forgiveness (which is in the form if his not having more affairs).

Why there's a difference will depend on your emotions and experiences, which will dictate whether actions or words are the most powerful driver in your relationship.

Garlicgarlicgarlic · 28/03/2025 08:10

Never allow some man a second opportunity to treat you badly.

Who owns the house? Focus on your future and the life you want. You could be enjoying peace and happiness, free of the lying man.

Girlmom35 · 28/03/2025 08:54

Dear @Dubmam ,
I'm sorry you're going through such a rough time.
But let's be clear. You will never forget that this happened. Forgive? Maybe, in a few years, but he's not giving you the necessary conditions in which forgiveness can occur.

I feel like you're not in an upside-down world where he has massively betrayed your trust, and you're now the one who's having to do the hard work. He's made a few half-assed excuses and now it's up to you to let go and forgive, and even erase your memory. How convenient for him. And after what, 4 months?

The biggest problem you have right now is the incredible invalidation that's going on regarding your pain and suffering, which he has caused. He isn't allowing you to fully feel your pain, which also means you aren't being given space to heal. And you yourself are also not giving yourself enough space to heal, expecting yourself to have magically forgotten after just a few months. As if this hasn't irrevocably changed who you are, for the rest of your life. You will never again be a woman who hasn't been betrayed and cheated on. This will be a scar on your heart forever. And you're all going over it so lightly.

Look, I understand being with someone for decades, having a family, lives intertwined and not just leaving him right then and there. But I also think that you have every right to evaluate day after day whether staying with him is still the right option. You can't know how you will recover from this. And even if you have decided to work on it when it all happened, that doesn't mean you need to double down. You can always decide to change your mind, that you can't get past the betrayal. So don't rush yourself into knowing now whether you want to stay or go. Allow yourself to take time, and don't feel guilty towards him that you can't say for sure whether you'll end up staying together. He made this mess. He can bare the consequences.

And lastly, I think you need to really ask yourself whether your husband has been forthcoming enough and honest enough. You can only start to work on forgiving once the injustice has been acknowledged. He keeps downplaying what was going on and lying about going to meet her. So basically he's telling you to swallow his lies and forgive him for something he won't even own up to. That's ridiculous. We all know he was up to no good. You can't heal unless the damage he has done is being validated. A true apology starts with owning your mistake and being humble, not saving face or doing damage control. He's still more intent on saving himself rather than being honest with you. Good luck going to marriage counseling when he isn't even honest about what drove him to the affair and what he needs to do to protect you from ever having to endure this again.

You have a long road of healing ahead of you. And people won't always give you the space you need to do that. So at the very least, give yourself that space. Be kind and patient with yourself. You're allowed to feel this way.

GoAwayNow7 · 28/03/2025 09:20

How can communication be better while he is still lying to you about the reasons he was meeting her?

You’re in a fake reconciliation. He doesn’t really want to reconcile. The counselling is a box to be ticked and to get you off his back.

SugarPlumpFairyCakes · 28/03/2025 09:47

You will never have peace of mind again if you stay.

TeeBee · 28/03/2025 10:33

Well you can choose to forgive but you're never going to forget, are you? And there's the rub.

Crikeyalmighty · 28/03/2025 11:38

You won’t forget OP and in my case I’ve never really forgiven either- I’ve simply moved on mentally, stayed married , we still have a good relationship too, but I am far more astute and put myself first far more. If I had been younger and in a different financial position which was complicated in my situation by working together and not owning a house , I would probably have made different choices. You must do what is best for you but the idea it suddenly all goes away in your head isn’t always the case. In my case it faded after about 3 years but it’s always kind of ‘there’ - men seem to expect that if you stay then you should be over it in a few weeks - I do think many of them are very shallow about things like this.

Dubmam · 28/03/2025 11:45

Wow thank you for all the responses. It's good to know I'm not alone❤️. Its not something I've shared with anyone, I feel embarrassed to be in this situation & I know I need to work on this & on myself.

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Thewookiemustgo · 28/03/2025 12:16

You will never forget it and forgiveness will take time. I found acceptance first before forgiveness and I’m not sure I could ever fully forgive it if I’m honest.
For me it was the right thing to do, I’m glad I stayed, but that’s just me, not you, it’s not for me to advocate it, I’m just saying it is possible. The caveat is that it depends on a great deal from your partner, it is not for the faint-hearted and takes a lot of time.
Staying and leaving are both hard, you’ll know which path to take, they say if you’re going to be done, you’ll know when you’re done. I’m sorry it happened to you.

SugarPlumpFairyCakes · 28/03/2025 13:16

Dubmam · 28/03/2025 11:45

Wow thank you for all the responses. It's good to know I'm not alone❤️. Its not something I've shared with anyone, I feel embarrassed to be in this situation & I know I need to work on this & on myself.

Sorry you're embarrassed?

You need to work on it?

Why do you need to do anything or feel embarrassed? This isn't on you AT ALL.

Crikeyalmighty · 28/03/2025 13:33

@Thewookiemustgo yep I think acceptance is probably the most useful word - men ( or women) who think it’s a straight case of forgive and forget if you stay are totally underestimating the complexity of human emotions

beetr00 · 28/03/2025 13:50

Dubmam · 28/03/2025 11:45

Wow thank you for all the responses. It's good to know I'm not alone❤️. Its not something I've shared with anyone, I feel embarrassed to be in this situation & I know I need to work on this & on myself.

You have ZERO reason to be embarrassed @Dubmam

HE blew up everything you thought your life was.

Take your time @Dubmam and going forward, seriously, have a good think about what YOU want to do.

It will take courage, he chose this path, you do not need to follow him this time.

Thinking of you🌼

MustyDooDah · 28/03/2025 16:05

I was embarrassed too, OP.

Humiliated actually.

It took me a long time to tell anyone (mud sticks, y’know). But when I did everyone was supportive. Some had their own stories.

Of the 6 or 7 friends I’ve told only ONE counselled me to leave, and the rest were there ready to support us as a couple.

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