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Struggling with life

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FeelingAloneinthisWorld · 22/03/2025 07:11

Just had my 53rd birthday (female) and feel like I have screwed up my entire life and happiness. Feeling really down and, well, struggling to cope with feelings of loneliness, unhappiness and uncertainty. I’ve had a few traumatic years in my life, recently, and I’m struggling to turn things around.

I had my whole life planned out when I was a teenager. Knew the career I wanted, knew the kind of life I wanted (pretty average but comfortable) and, well, how to get there. As the youngest of 3 children, with quite a big age gap between myself and my 2 older siblings, I was able to watch them get married, start work, have a family etc. - my elder siblings, I might add, were never like siblings to me as they’d both left home by the time I was 6. I have no memory of ever having lived in the same house as them.

My parents divorced when I was 8. After a few
trips to stay with my father on a weekend (who never spent any time with me and left
me stood outside the social club with a glass of
lemonade and a packet of crisps), I got bored, felt unwanted and stopped going. I had no contact with my father from the age of 11. He died when I was 26. My brother found out from the woman he lived with (my father) 3 days after his death. So, you could say, I grew up without a male figure in my life. Even though I had 2 older brothers, they had their own families and I didn’t have a sibling relationship with them. Age gap
didn’t help.

My mother was a difficult woman at times. I bore the brunt of her menopause! She was obsessed with doctors and would demand appointments every week. We had little money and did without things like holidays, the latest clothing item etc.
She never re-married or even dated. She died of cancer ten years ago at the age of 83.

I felt alone a lot as a child. Even though I wasn’t alone, if that makes sense. I was determined to forge out a better life for myself. I became seriously ill at 14 with meningitis. Fortunately, I recovered and thus spurred me on to get a good job. I was lucky enough to go to university when there weren’t any fees. I doubt my mother would’ve let me go, otherwise, and I’d have been made to work locally in a low paid job. Career-wise, I have done well. I’m now in senior management in my field however this has come with a lot of sacrifices - many hours of studying and an increased sense of pressure and stress. I do regret it, and wish I’d stayed in my previous role, as the stress that has come from rising up has led to me not enjoying life, in general. I have also been subject to subtle bullying by someone at work (who is currently off on LT sick with stress). My job needs 2 people and I struggle to cope with the stressful demands of the workload (NHS).

My personal life hasn’t been ideal either. I
married an older man (12 years my senior). I had been inexperienced in the dating field and, well, had no-one to compare him too. It became very obvious we were nothing more than friends and I became seriously turned off - leading to a sexless marriage (many years). There was no affection in our marriage. Yes, we had 2 children but the marriage lacked chemistry. I just didn’t feel like that towards him. Menopause hit me quite badly and well, I ended up in an affair (long distance). Marriage ended very quickly (by me) when I realised the way I’d been living and the fact I had developed strong, real, feelings for someone else. Unfortunately for me, the said man remained married and it became obvious that I had been led on and he ended up stopping messaging after 7 years of friendship. I had allowed myself to develop feelings for someone I shouldn’t have (I know that) but it became clear there was a massive gap in my life. My mother had died a year or so earlier, my siblings both died (one to suicide) during this period and I have recently lost a very close friend/colleague to cancer.

My current job is 100 miles away but I am only there 2 days a week and work from home 2 days. Aside from the bullying, I am spending money on hotels and I am struggling after being ripped off by a solicitor. Paying back £400 a month in a loan for the next 5 years to pay off solicitor fees. I am still not divorced! I am still living in the family home (on the market) but it is struggling to sell. I am only getting 50% of the house as I accepted this as I couldn’t cope with going to court (I had been going through a traumatic court case over my sibling’s death) and menopause myself, so could not cope with it. The house has been reduced twice. It’s too big for me and I couldn’t afford a mortgage without all of
my disposable income being swallowed up - I don’t want to live like that. However, as the house is reduced, I am going to get less and less to be able to buy somewhere else. Stbx has another property he was given (as inheritance) after divorce proceedings started.

I have high blood pressure. Probably a mix of work and this long drawn out divorce (and associated worry). I feel like I can’t settle and get peace in my life. I am lonely! Both of my children live with their father most of the time. The eldest stays a bit with me but the youngest doesn’t.

I am desperate to tell the wife of the man how he has led me on over the years and fed me a
load of nonsense. I, stupidly, fell for this man and his twaddle. He has ruined my life. Everything I have worked for, I have lost. I know it was wrong but I was under the influence of menopause at the time, which had a massive effect on my life (not had HRT and probably wouldn’t get it now anyway). However, it was clear my marriage wasn’t right for me.

I have tried dating apps but don’t like
anyone. Plus, I have deep feelings for the OM. My marriage was nothing but a friendship. I was vulnerable and stupid.

As a result of feeling stressed in all of the above (and unhappy in my job), losing people around me and feeling 💩 most days, I no longer enjoy life. I don’t know a way out.

Most people forgot my birthday.

Can anyone advise?

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Holdonforsummer · 22/03/2025 07:20

i am sorry you feel this way. It is interesting how much you are still dwelling on your childhood, almost blaming it for how you feel now and how your life has turned out. I don’t think that is healthy - by now, you have been an adult for decades and cannot keep harking back. Perhaps you need some counselling or therapy to deal with all this? Same thing with obsessing about the other man’s wife. You can’t keep blaming other people. You are only 53 with. Lot of life ahead of you. I truly feel you need some help to come to terms with the past and learn how to take control of your own future. Good luck.

nzeire · 22/03/2025 07:22

I felt quite teary reading this, I’m sorry, it sounds bloody hard.

how can you unpack this into manageable chunks. What can you change NOW. What can you change by this time next year, this time five years?

id be very impatient for the house sells, once that is over, some bigger decisions can be made leading to a happier life. A smaller property, a less than what you have job, time for you, some classes, rediscover what made you happy before

some therapy around the bloke, he needs to be forgotten about

I really wish you all the best, life can be good x

GuevarasBeret · 22/03/2025 07:46

You are the same age as me, and it does sound very difficult.

I completely understand about needing to not fight the divorce because you had too much on your plate, and you will come to see that as a blessing.

If we were to list out the areas to solve it would it be.
(a) sell house
(b) get divorced
(c) find somewhere suitable to live for the future
(d) grieve for the relationship

Like other’s it does seem like you have got stuck in processing the past, and I wonder if keeping a foot in the past acts as a useful way of not fully devoting yourself to the future.
Of all the issues, I think the end of the affair might be the most useful, and it is certainly the one where MumsNet will best help you out. Yes he was of course a shit to both you and his wife, but you can still say “he showed me that I should feel alive in a relationship” and that is worth having. You can take the good parts, and set that as a standard for the future.

PeggyMitchellsCameo · 22/03/2025 08:32

Similar age and I have similar feelings but for very different reasons. I think it’s very common for women of our age.

  1. as a child you went through a lot but you have an instinct that kicked in that told you that you wanted a better life. That is your instinct and it’s still there.
  2. while your marriage may feel like a mistake, you were able to have two children. Wherever they live now you are still their mum.
  3. you have lost a lot of people. It hurts and I can’t say much more than that. When you are young, you just don’t think it will ever happen.
  4. you have a great career. You have been bullied recently. Your workload is increasing. It’s time to talk to someone at work about what’s happening.
  5. the man. I think this has probably hit you hardest because of the timing of it all. He felt like a white knight to whisk you away, from all that had gone before. He’s a knob, and they love the attention. I wouldn’t tell his wife. I would leave them both to it. What I got from your words is what an intelligent, capable person you are, with also so much love to give. I lost a friend recently, our age, and I realised what she will miss out on. It has galvanised me. My advice? You have time. Not as much as you did at 23, but it’s there. If you can, access some counselling. It’s time to start living your life for you. Find a passion, or dig up an old one. Get involved in something in your time off. You haven’t mentioned friends much here, and they are the stuff of life. It is never too late to meet new ones. I think the loss of your dad at a young age from your world has led you off on a search for a protector. But that protector is you. It’s the young girl who said, sitting in pub doorways isn’t going to be my life. It is strange being a mid-life orphan. But there is a freedom in it, if you look for it. There is a whole world out there waiting for you to live in it. I know your heart is sore. But perhaps for 40 years you’ve never really got to know yourself. It is never too late for HRT (trust me, I am a few years older!) and it is never too late for a fresh start. I blew my life up royally at one point, and lost everything. But I found a different way, and it took time. But now I look back and think I didn’t fail, I am just human. I want to wish you so much luck. There are many more miles for you to go. To me you are a wonderful success story. You are still here, and that’s a chance in itself.
FeelingAloneinthisWorld · 22/03/2025 13:40

@Holdonforsummer
I guess it’s because I feel I missed out as a child. Not having experience of males in my life - as in a father figure.

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FeelingAloneinthisWorld · 22/03/2025 13:44

@nzeire
Thank you. I think the house sale is a major factor. It has been on the market since last summer and is under the average going rate. Im
going to knock it down once more once I’ve had the viewing booked for next week. I will be getting somewhere smaller. I was thinking of a cottage. I’d like to live my life and not have a mortgages hanging around my neck. We paid the mortgage off years ago (well, it was me who worked extra to pay it off). With losing so many people around me (some close to my age), it is making me want to make the most of life. I feel so alone though.

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FeelingAloneinthisWorld · 22/03/2025 13:50

@GuevarasBeret
I feel hook line and sinker for this man. He has done it before (admitted it to me). He felt guilt over it all and, to this day, says he lives in a sexless marriage and he isn’t attracted to his wife but he will not leave her. It became obvious I was going nowhere with it and it was obvious he was calling me when horny a lot. I said something in the end. He said he knew he got carried away but did, genuinely, care for me, felt he was holding me back and that there was someone out there for me! I can’t understand why he played around with me, even though he knew I had feelings for him! It was after I’d said it wasn’t fair what he was doing to me that he cooled
it. He is still there - just not saying anything. I haven’t messaged him either. Its
cruel what he has done. I’ve lost a lot because of him (I want to tell him so).

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FeelingAloneinthisWorld · 22/03/2025 13:51

My biggest mistake was marrying someone who didn’t make me feel alive!

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FeelingAloneinthisWorld · 22/03/2025 14:00

@PeggyMitchellsCameo
Thank you for your kind words. I’m tearing up reading them. I hope that I can make a change, find something/someone to give me that fulfilment, satisfaction and security in life. My husband was a nice man, which made it all the harder, and menopause affected me massively (in fact, I’d even say it has changed my personality) - it was a mix of events that happened all at once. I think the OM, although he has been supportive of me for years, has been a 💩 to both myself and his wife. He felt guilty, yes, but then would feed me with music to
my ears a couple of weeks later. We met
on a chat site. I was lonely and ridiculously horny (menopause). We hit it off. He has learned a lot about his behaviour too. He was the one who stopped everything, many times, but would
return. I don’t doubt that he cares for
me but he loves her - not me. I was a fool to believe what he was saying. I have come to think that he says things when he is on one of those
moods. Gets carried away. It has cost me dearly. It’s hard not to say anything.

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LadyTangerine · 22/03/2025 14:01

I'm sorry you're struggling op but the thing that sticks out from your post is how it's all everyone else's fault.

'stupidly, fell for this man and his twaddle. He has ruined my life. Everything I have worked for, I have lost. I know it was wrong but I was under the influence of menopause at the time, which had a massive effect on my life'

It wasn't the menopause that did it, it was you. You aren't the first and won't be the last to have a fling but just draw a line and move on.

I've no advice re finances but I would book in for counselling and or cbt and try to develop some resilience and strategies to move on from all the negativity.

Good luck Flowers.

FeelingAloneinthisWorld · 22/03/2025 14:05

One thing I can’t stand, since menopause, is being in crowded places such as shopping malls. Hate it! I have taken up hiking as I love open spaces and just to be able to sit with a cup of tea and a sandwich. I love the sounds of nature etc. Anywhere busy now makes me feel
amxious. I never used to be like that .

I am a very passionate woman. But only with the right man. Sadly, my husband (older and less passionate), was not the one. Other man was but wasn’t mine. I should never have got so carried away. It’s the hardest feeling in the world!!! He once cut contact for a few months and returned to admit he had accepted he had feelings for me. However, it was never going to go anywhere. I realised that! We tried to remain friends but the chemistry was too strong.

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FeelingAloneinthisWorld · 22/03/2025 14:06

@LadyTangerine
You’d be surprised how hormones going mental affected me. I know I have to look at my own mistakes.

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LadyTangerine · 22/03/2025 14:07

FeelingAloneinthisWorld · 22/03/2025 14:06

@LadyTangerine
You’d be surprised how hormones going mental affected me. I know I have to look at my own mistakes.

Yes that's a good start I agree.

Have you considered HRT or other meds like anxiety meds if you can't take HRT?

Tillybud81 · 22/03/2025 14:08

I found journaling very good OP, get it all written down and out of your system. Write to the OM telling him he's a prick, write to his wife telling her everything, but never send them. The writing is just for you to see it and get it out. And definitely get yourself some therapy to unpack it all.

Plenty of people don't grow up with male or female role models, you're now a grown up yourself though and can't blame this forever.

Write a list of what you need to do practically first, then emotionally. You'll come back to that list at some point and see how far you've come. I know I did anyway

LadyTangerine · 22/03/2025 14:13

'after being ripped off by a solicitor. Paying back £400 a month in a loan for the next 5 years to pay off solicitor fees. I am still not divorced'

This isn't right. How could you have accured £24k on solicitors fees? You must appeal or something. Was this for the divorce? That is a crazy amount of money. Please challenge it.

I'd focus on your kids. Yoy say you bore the brunt of your dm's menopause, don't let history repeat itself.

FeelingAloneinthisWorld · 22/03/2025 14:45

LadyTangerine · 22/03/2025 14:07

Yes that's a good start I agree.

Have you considered HRT or other meds like anxiety meds if you can't take HRT?

Not sure they’d give me them as I now have raised BP. I’m 8 years into menopause anyway. Through the worst but feel different.

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PeggyMitchellsCameo · 22/03/2025 14:45

FeelingAloneinthisWorld · 22/03/2025 14:00

@PeggyMitchellsCameo
Thank you for your kind words. I’m tearing up reading them. I hope that I can make a change, find something/someone to give me that fulfilment, satisfaction and security in life. My husband was a nice man, which made it all the harder, and menopause affected me massively (in fact, I’d even say it has changed my personality) - it was a mix of events that happened all at once. I think the OM, although he has been supportive of me for years, has been a 💩 to both myself and his wife. He felt guilty, yes, but then would feed me with music to
my ears a couple of weeks later. We met
on a chat site. I was lonely and ridiculously horny (menopause). We hit it off. He has learned a lot about his behaviour too. He was the one who stopped everything, many times, but would
return. I don’t doubt that he cares for
me but he loves her - not me. I was a fool to believe what he was saying. I have come to think that he says things when he is on one of those
moods. Gets carried away. It has cost me dearly. It’s hard not to say anything.

I think MN is littered with threads from women of all ages who either want answers from a man, want to tell a man what he’s put her through, or a mixture of both.
Very, very rarely are these men answerable or accountable. They are, at heart, liars.
My advice would be to not say one more word to him, even if it’s a last retort. It’s wasted. And I very much doubt he loves his wife.
You’ve had a marriage of sorts with a man that had passion. And then there’s been a man you’ve met online with a spark, but it had nowhere to go.
In the future, when you are better, it would be better to meet someone in real time, through a shared interest.
I know the thought of being truly ‘alone’ is scary. It scared the life out of me. But when you sit in it, and get some guidance, and start to do things you enjoy, it is the most liberating thing in the world.
I wish someone had told me that thirty years ago.
But it’d never too late.
So may be instead of thinking about your husband’s lack, or the arsehole OM, write a reply somewhere on here and tell me or all of us…
What music you like? Favourite food? Best film? Is there somewhere you’d like to travel to? Whose company do you enjoy?
I could ask you so many questions because in so many posts, as in life, women get burned out with the details of the man or the men, this is how he is etc.
Through therapy, I got to understand more about myself. Actually, what would I like? What are my values? What do I enjoy?
Honestly, you’d be better off watching an hour of your favourite film than playing in your head what you’d like to say to this man. The only person he loves is… himself!

FeelingAloneinthisWorld · 22/03/2025 14:47

LadyTangerine · 22/03/2025 14:13

'after being ripped off by a solicitor. Paying back £400 a month in a loan for the next 5 years to pay off solicitor fees. I am still not divorced'

This isn't right. How could you have accured £24k on solicitors fees? You must appeal or something. Was this for the divorce? That is a crazy amount of money. Please challenge it.

I'd focus on your kids. Yoy say you bore the brunt of your dm's menopause, don't let history repeat itself.

£900 bills here and there. Solicitor charged £300 an hour! Dragged on. I’m still not divorced and only get half the house.

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FeelingAloneinthisWorld · 22/03/2025 14:48

The solicitor actually wrote to me expressing his concerns for my financial future, as I had to let him go (just couldn’t afford it anymore). Meanwhile, he would charge me for going over work he’d already gone over! Such a rip
off.

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GreyCarpet · 22/03/2025 15:10

It's not about viewing your past in terms of 'mistakes' but on choices you made at the time. And acknowledging that, whilst they might have felt like, and actually been, the only choices available to you at the time, they were choices you made.

No.ones life is perfect, and very few are without any regret.

For example, I grew up in abuse and it lasted until I cut contact with my mother 13 years ago. My dad died the same year. I had no inheritance and I followed bad financial advice from my mother and listened to her when I shouldn't have done and have rented as a result my entire life and always will.

I have a professional (but not high paying) career. I went to university after loans were introduced (due to family abuse) and am still paying it off and won't clear it before it's written off).

I have two adult childen. One father has ever even seen his son (his choice), the other has turned out to be an abusive arsehole. We were in a sexless marriage and it was often a sad and lonely place to be.

I'm currently going through the menopause with all the joys that brings...

But I'm happy. I'm in a good relationship but only because I was happy before meeting him. I've never looked for someone else to provide my happiness and neither should you.

I count my blessings every day. I know what aspects of my past still impact on my present and will impact on my future. I acknowledge I made crap choices but also that they were the only choices I had at the time. I look forward because I can't change the past.

A lot of this is around changing how you frame things to yourself. Your life has been an adventure so far and is still an adventure to come. There is joy in every day but you have to be open to seeing it.

FeelingAloneinthisWorld · 22/03/2025 18:23

Have to say, I would not have ended my marriage had it not been for the other man. I’d always known I hadn’t chosen correctly (inexperience, probably) but kept the marriage going for the sake of everyone else and for stability. Someone further up said menopause wasn’t what made me act. It was. I became ridiculously horny for well over a year. I had never heard of this in menopause. But, out of all of this, it highlighted my sexless marriage (and no affection) and my desire for someone else. I feel like I’m going crazy knowing this man is carrying on with his life and it hasn’t affected him one bit!

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LadyTangerine · 22/03/2025 19:07

'feel like I’m going crazy knowing this man is carrying on with his life and it hasn’t affected him one bit!'

But that is what cheats do, cheat. I know you must feel hurt and annoyed that he stayed with his wife, but use it as a learning experience and don't get involved with married men again.

category12 · 22/03/2025 19:29

I think you need to focus on what you can do to make your life better now and in the future instead of chewing over the past. What's done is done and you can take the lessons forward but try not to beat yourself up where you think you made mistakes. It is what it is.

How come you live 100 miles from your job? That's kind of crazy. Can you find something nearer, especially if you don't like the culture there?

PeggyMitchellsCameo · 22/03/2025 20:20

LadyTangerine · 22/03/2025 19:07

'feel like I’m going crazy knowing this man is carrying on with his life and it hasn’t affected him one bit!'

But that is what cheats do, cheat. I know you must feel hurt and annoyed that he stayed with his wife, but use it as a learning experience and don't get involved with married men again.

It’s such a common theme on here women driving themselves mad wanting to analyse what drives these men. Wanting answers and/or apologies.
It is a waste of time.
One young woman had a thread that seemed to just hyper focus on a man who was lying beyond belief. It got taken down as it seemed unbelievable. The poster has a fresh thread today, she’s getting divorced, and finally gets it.
Until someone gets past this stage, and we’ve all been there, it’s impossible to see reason. You just want to be soothed or get answers.
The real answer here was that OP should have left her husband anyway. Not sure if she actually ever met OM, but that’s what he was. Not a real man to have a real relationship with.

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