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22 replies

FunTraybake · 16/03/2025 18:39

So my oh walked out on me after Xmas but came back after a few days. He also handed his notice in at the same time. When I posted a lot of you said he sounded depressed. When he came back he moved out of our bedroom to a spare room as he needed time to think. I've just found a receipt to a restaurant in a town not far away When he said he was visiting his parents who live 2 hours the other direction. After firstly pretending to not know what I am on about as I don't think he knew I had proof he finally admitted he had gone out with a female friend who got divorced last year. He lied about where he was that day and also paid for the meal on his work card (he has a job and also is self employed selling stuff on ebay). I have access to our accounts but not the self employed one as it's on his phone.

He says he doesn't want to leave our kids 16 and 13 but that he thinks he's broken our relationship and that I should tell him to leave. We own a house that would need to be sold (there's no mortgage)

He's now just sitting here pretending everything is fine... whilst I'm trying again to not cry in front of the kids and feeling like the bad guy if I do tell him to leave. I also feel like a mug as he's literally just spent £2k on something for himself from our account.

Is it likely that this friend who he took out is the ow? He says not but her child is the same age as our youngest and he used to go on play dates with them and obviously he paid for them to go out for an evening meal and he stayed out that night.

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BurntBanana · 16/03/2025 18:41

Yes, he’s having an affair with her and trying to manoeuvre you into telling him to leave so he doesn’t have to be the bad guy. So as well as a liar and a cheat, he’s also a coward.

Happyears · 16/03/2025 18:44

He’s having an affair and doesn’t have the courage to end his marriage. You deserve better than this.

phoenixrisingup · 16/03/2025 18:45

That sounds absolutely awful, and I’m so sorry you’re going through this. You’re not the bad guy here – he’s the one who walked out, lied, and is now sitting there acting like nothing happened, leaving you to deal with all the emotional fallout.

I can’t say for certain if this woman is the other woman, but the fact that he lied about where he was, paid for the meal, stayed out overnight, and is now saying you should tell him to leave instead of taking responsibility for his actions – it all sounds incredibly suspicious. Even if nothing physical has happened, he’s clearly prioritising someone else’s company over being honest with you.

The fact that he’s spent £2k from your shared account on himself, while you’re here struggling emotionally, just makes it even worse. That’s not the action of someone who is putting his family first or trying to rebuild trust.

If he thinks he’s “broken” the relationship, then he should be the one to make a decision, instead of putting it all on you. He doesn’t get to make a mess and then sit back while you feel guilty about dealing with it.

You deserve honesty, respect, and a partner who genuinely wants to be with you – not someone who stays just because of the kids while emotionally checking out. Whatever you decide to do, you are not a mug, and you’re not alone. Please don’t feel like you have to carry this burden silently to protect everyone else. You matter too xx

Bubblenum · 16/03/2025 19:27

FunTraybake · 16/03/2025 18:39

So my oh walked out on me after Xmas but came back after a few days. He also handed his notice in at the same time. When I posted a lot of you said he sounded depressed. When he came back he moved out of our bedroom to a spare room as he needed time to think. I've just found a receipt to a restaurant in a town not far away When he said he was visiting his parents who live 2 hours the other direction. After firstly pretending to not know what I am on about as I don't think he knew I had proof he finally admitted he had gone out with a female friend who got divorced last year. He lied about where he was that day and also paid for the meal on his work card (he has a job and also is self employed selling stuff on ebay). I have access to our accounts but not the self employed one as it's on his phone.

He says he doesn't want to leave our kids 16 and 13 but that he thinks he's broken our relationship and that I should tell him to leave. We own a house that would need to be sold (there's no mortgage)

He's now just sitting here pretending everything is fine... whilst I'm trying again to not cry in front of the kids and feeling like the bad guy if I do tell him to leave. I also feel like a mug as he's literally just spent £2k on something for himself from our account.

Is it likely that this friend who he took out is the ow? He says not but her child is the same age as our youngest and he used to go on play dates with them and obviously he paid for them to go out for an evening meal and he stayed out that night.

Yes he’s having an affair with that woman if it’s not that woman it’s someone else. He wants you to kick him out so he’s not the bad guy but when you do kick him out he will go running to her..i would 100% leave. you can’t trust a man that lies and hides things and cheats.

RealEagle · 16/03/2025 19:32

He sounds like a real prick .You deserve so much better ,He wants you to tell him to leave cos he’s spineless.

Nowvoyager99 · 16/03/2025 19:55

So sorry OP. Yes, it looks like she is OW.

Tell him to leave. That’s obviously what he wants anyway. 💐

FunTraybake · 17/03/2025 07:50

So he went to bed early last night 830 and this morning it's like yesterday didn't happen.

In order to sell the house I will need to get some work done which will cost a fair bit.

I wondered can I just apply for a divorce online without a solicitor (to save costs) and then get the solicitor for the split of assets?

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JustWalkingTheDogs · 17/03/2025 07:59

Tell him he has to pay for the work to make up for what he’s just spent on himself out of family money.

id not be fussed about who’s the bad guy, you need to look after you and the dc. He’s treating you appallingly whilst swanning around with another woman.

get a free consultation with a solicitor and see where you stand. Take control!

Notmyrealname22 · 17/03/2025 08:05

he thinks he's broken our relationship and that I should tell him to leave.

Tell him to grow some balls. If he has broken the relationship he needs to own it and be the one to say he is leaving. He’s trying to make you the bad guy here! “oh, I wanted to make it work for the kids sake but @FunTraybake told me I needed to leave”.

For that alone, you should give him the boot. Yes, the lengths he went to in order to hide the lunch with the OW from you shows that at the very least his intentions were dishonourable. Whether he got what he wanted, who knows. Only him & her.

sameshizz · 17/03/2025 08:07

You can certainly get the ball rolling on the divorce online. It was £600 when I did it 2 years ago. Might as well set it away but then you’ll need a solicitor for the financial agreement etc

FunTraybake · 17/03/2025 08:22

I think if I don't start doing something he would be happy for all this to drift and just carry on as it is. That's why I wondered if I can just start the process without a solicitor so he realises that this will happen with or without him.

He mentioned leaving but renting a room would be very expensive. He could afford it but I only work part time and the running of this house is expensive (council tax is 300 a month). He would probably use his excess salary for his car and boat (that's what he spent the 2k on yesterday)

I think he is hoping that we would keep the house until the kids were 18 (but that's 5 years away) and then sell and he would use our cash savings and his salary to get something small but I think it's unrealistic. He even mentioned giving together but apart until dd has finished her gcses so she doesn't have any disruption but she's only in year 8.

His friend went through a nasty divorce which badly affected her kids and he said he doesn't want to let us affect our kids adversely which is why he wanted to stay together but not but that will just be me doing all the housework for him and then he swanning off and not coming home overnight so that's not working for me now and I can't even contemplate that working for a long period.

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FunTraybake · 17/03/2025 08:29

I also don't think it helps I don't have any friends. We moved here and all the mums of the other kids in my kids classes had grown up together and never really had any room for anyone new or i wasnt pushy enough to try and join in.

Everything the kids did he sort of took away. He got involved in scouts as a volunteer and now cadets as a volunteer so now he sees the parents (that's how he met this friend her daughter and mine are the same age and met on a cadet camp) she is also a cadet volunteer about an hr away so now I don't really have anything to do with cadets as he is the contact as he's there at the unit.

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sameshizz · 17/03/2025 08:32

You can apply on the government website to initiate it. It will ask for his email address so he will get notifications .

FunTraybake · 17/03/2025 08:58

My ds is nearly 17 and he has a savings account he doesn't know about, can I move some of our savings into this so oh can't access it? Only cos oh spent 2k on his boat at the weekend so just want to try and minimise the risk.

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Notaflippinclue · 17/03/2025 10:23

Open an account for yourself and transfer £2000 today - he is getting his ducks in a row you should do the same!

FunTraybake · 17/03/2025 10:33

Notaflippinclue · 17/03/2025 10:23

Open an account for yourself and transfer £2000 today - he is getting his ducks in a row you should do the same!

But when we do the financial settlement form won't that just go back in the matrimonial pot to be shared

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EvenMoreFuriousVexation · 17/03/2025 10:49

FunTraybake · 17/03/2025 10:33

But when we do the financial settlement form won't that just go back in the matrimonial pot to be shared

I don't have any knowledge of this area but I'd have thought any money in the account of a child under 18 would be counted towards the pot anyway?

The safest thing to do would be to spend it tbh.

2catsandhappy · 17/03/2025 11:17

I pricked my ears up when you mentioned he spent £2000. All I heard was a man trying to spend money so he doesn't have to split savings equally on divorce.
I can't remember the legal term for someone wilfully frittering away joint savings. Is it 'deprevation of assets'? Perhaps other more knowledgable mners would be kind enough to advise @FunTraybake

If you are brave enough, transfer £2000 to your own account today. A good start fund to online divorce him, before he decides to buy a speedboat or a dune buggy and drains your joint savings further.
About the financial settlement form you refer to, I suspect he will put that off as he doesn't actually want a divorce. He wants you to look after him the exact way you have been. For 5 years. Without you complaining. Except now he is out on fancy hotel dinner dates with whoever.

I notice that you are concerned about where or how he would live if he left.
The moment he asked someone on a date, he willingly threw away all expectations to your support, love, concern and help.
He can live in his car or a gutter because he is a bastard knob who isn't fit to breathe the air in that you have breathed out.

FunTraybake · 17/03/2025 11:48

I'm not sure he spent the money to save splitting the savings as at that time I didn't know about his dinner date. It wasn't until he came home I found out as my ds gave me the receipt he'd found in his dad's jacket (his dad had lent him the jacket)

However since he handed in his notice at Xmas its like he's had an epiphany and he does him... it's his money to buy dinner/spend on boat...arrange a weekend away sailing at the iow.

Most of the money just happens to be in my accounts as he was never interested in it and as I move it from savings to savings for better interest it made it easier if it was in my account. He probably has access to about 20k plus whatever is in his business account so I just want to try and keep the rest of our money away from him in case he decides he's gonna buy a new car or whatever. Our ds will be 17 next month so was hoping putting it in his account would mean if the divorce takes over a year then oh can't touch this money as it would be ds and he could use it for uni.

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FunTraybake · 17/03/2025 11:54

I've been with oh since 1997 and he was my best friend. Over half my life was with him and I suppose I can't completely turn off wanting him to be OK.

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Mischance · 17/03/2025 11:58

I do think that you need help from a solicitor.

If he thinks that he is being considerate of the children then he is wrong - it is unimaginable that they do not know something is wrong. He just want to keep his creature comforts.

StarlightExpresssed · 17/03/2025 21:48

I remember your first post at Christmas, @FunTraybake and I wondered how you were doing. You sound very level-headed and kind, but this must be heartbreaking and bewildering for you.

It sounds like he has been involved with another woman but has realised the practical and financial implications of leaving. So, he’s returned to bide his time until he’s in a better financial position while also relying on you to handle all the life admin that makes his life easier. He’s likely using the kids as an excuse or cover for this—though that doesn’t mean he doesn’t love them.

While an affair seems the most likely explanation, your previous post made it sound like he could also be struggling with depression or a midlife crisis. His behavior since returning (buying a boat!) suggests it could be a mix of both. Regardless, he’s treating you terribly. If you let things drift, he’ll essentially be having his cake and eating it—possibly spending your joint savings in the process—leaving you both financially worse off and deeply hurt.

When he says he thinks he’s done too much damage to the relationship, he’s probably right—but that should be your call. If he genuinely wanted to fix things, he’d be making an effort. If you aren’t 100% sure you want to end things, I’d ask him directly: does he actually want a relationship with you, and is he willing to put in the work (counseling, etc.)? You could also confront him outright—tell him you know there’s someone else and that you refuse to be taken for a fool. Have you done any digging to confirm any other evidence of another woman?

At the same time, I’d start making plans to protect yourself in case you do split:
• See a solicitor using some of your joint savings to understand your legal standing in a divorce.
• Move the majority of your savings into an account he can’t access—not to take it for yourself but to ensure he has to discuss any major expenses with you. Whatever is left will be split in a divorce, so this is about protecting assets, not hiding them.
• Build a support network—join clubs, pick up hobbies, volunteer, or get involved in the school community to strengthen your connections.
• Look into housing options so you know what’s possible if you separate.
• If you file for divorce, use the joint account to cover the £600 fee.
• Be aware that once your kids turn 18, he won’t be obligated to pay maintenance or house them—so he has a financial incentive to delay the split.

As painful as this is—and as much as you may not want it—if the relationship is truly over, it’s in your best interest to end it sooner rather than let it drag on for years.

Wishing you strength and happiness moving forward.💕

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