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Husband, internet porn and live chatting

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Mumisa · 14/03/2025 09:08

Husband porn addiction and live chatting

My husband (38) and I (40 F) have been married for 10 years. I have always known he watched porn and I had always thought that this was normal for men. I did not see at something that could harm us.

I started to notice a decrease in our sex life after 2 years when we moved in together, in hindsight this is when we also got a computer. I noticed it but put it down to work stress or my own attractiveness and never raised the issue.

Over time as we married and had 2 children, sex and intimacy in our relationship continued to decrease. Some years we only had sex once or twice. Again I blamed myself as I had gained weight after children, I now had stretch marks and we were both tired. He would reject my attempts to initiate sex or sometimes even my touch. He worked long hours and I saw that even when he did have "free time" he preferred to spend it alone. I felt very unhappy and lonely and began to raise the problems with our sex life and companionship in general. He would get defensive and say he was repelled by me because I spoke to him in an unpleasant tone and i only spoke to him when I wanted him to do something. He said I seemed unaccepting of his humour and hobbies and that we were not compatible. I do not claim to be perfect but I had always wholeheartedly loved and liked him and strove to show him he was adored. I never rejected him but I did get feel angry and neglected at times and felt his work and hobbies came above me. I can definitely be snappy. He would often say the stress of his job and or the children were causing most of the issues in our relationship.

We went in a cycle of me complaining that I needed more from him and that causing a huge argument where he would often withdraw from me completely and not speak to me. Then we would make up and things would improve temporarily then the sex would drop off again.

I felt despair and eventually decided my weight was the problem so I lost a lot of weight. But saw little improvement in our sex life. I began to suspect he preferred porn and he agreed he "probably" watched too much and would "cut down" but again this didn't improve the sex situation much.

I should say that throughout he would say that he loved me and that I was the best thing in his life but my gut kept telling me something wasn't right and I felt constantly anxious and unsafe in the relationship. Feeling his actions didn't match his words.

Last year he sent a valentines card saying I was his "best friend" and I felt unreasonably devastated because I didn't want him to just be a friend and I felt it was a reflection of this sexless marriage and enforced celibacy I didn't want. I left for my parents for about a week. He was cold and wouldn't speak to me but eventually came and persuaded me to come home. Things would change. We just needed to communicate better.

Of course, they did not and during our most recent argument when I complained that I felt he avoided me and I was lonely he asked me if I even liked myself and again said we are not compatible and maybe a split was best.

I looked at his emails and saw that he had a live jasmin account he had deleted. I asked him about it and he apologised and said he was ashamed and had no excuse. He said it was a "free thing" and when questioned said he had not paid for anything. I became suspicious and asked to look at his credit card statements. He then admitted he had gone on a few times over 5/6 months but hadn't paid much. It took a few days but when he finally gave me the statements they showed he had in fact been on over 30 times in 18 months and paid nearly 1k on it. He had also googled pictures of a female colleague in another office. I accused him of being a porn addict and he admitted it. He said he had been on porn daily for about 10 years or longer and that he had watched so much he needed something more and so went to live jasmin which he was using a few times a week with porn in between as well. He had tried to stop live jasmin multiple times hence why there was an email about deleting the account.

It has been just over a week and the pain is unbearable. He has begged me to stay with him and support his efforts to quit porn. He says he will do anything to keep me. He had given me his iPad and home computer and agreed to leave his phone upstairs in the evenings. He has said he will get counselling and do a program although i don't see him making much effort beyond sending a few emails and listening to some porn addiction recovery podcasts I sent to him.

I am afraid and devastated, I feel my marriage is over but my mother feels I should try to make it work for my children's sakes. I know a split will tear their lives apart. They are in a private school and I am a stay at home mother so they will go from a good life to a poor single mother if I choose to leave him. It feels selfish to not stick it out for them at least until they are older. I honestly love my husband but I will never trust him again and feel cheating is only a matter of time. I don't have faith in him being committed to recovery from what I can see so far. Do I give it more time? I feel like staying would make me an idiot in many ways? I would appreciate support/ opinions from people who have gone through something similar, please be kind

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Smokeyblueblack · 14/03/2025 09:28

It is not " normal" for men to watch porn.
What you describe is how exactly how porn use affects men's ability to have a normal relationship.

It is not your fault.

Unless he serioisly addresses his porn addiction you will never have a normal relationship. And even if he does seriously try to address his addiction the knowledge he can so easily relapse will haunt you and eat away at your trust.

I honestly think you will be much happier if you walk away from this marriage.
It's not you who has destroyed it.

Personally I wouldn't want to live with a man who sees women as sex objects and has been happy getting his sexual gratification from seeing women abused, and violated. I would feel ill just looking at him.

Starlight7080 · 14/03/2025 09:48

Daily ! That's grim. And at the same time making you feel like it was your personality or appearance causing the problems.
10 years atleast let's face it . That takes a lot to quit and then even if he does its the longterm problems it will have caused because his idea of sex is so warped by porn.
It's an awful thing for most relationships . Especially as it's so easily accessed now .
I agree with the above poster . I would hate the thought that a father has no morals when it comes to women being used and abused.

NeedsMustNet · 14/03/2025 09:54

Whatever time tells you, get your 🦆🦆🦆🦆🦆lined up first.

Look at your fear of being single and poorer more closely. If you got a job, giving you more financial and other autonomy, might you feel differently? (Not saying you wouldn’t be poorer, but there are things you can do to mitigate it). And if that fear then subsides, where does that leave you as a couple? A life ruled by fear and not love will eat away at you.

If your husband had been going on live cams or whatever this Jasmin thing is AND still finding time and the will to show passion for you as before, then his viewing patterns would read very differently. Instead he closed off your intimacy as a couple and took a different route. The fact he denied it until you found proof, too…

Keep the lines of communication open, but one eye on your possible future as a single, less fearful person?

PeggyMitchellsCameo · 14/03/2025 09:59

Firstly, its none of your mother’s business.
Secondly, and more importantly, you count.
There is often a narrative about children’s lives being torn apart if a marriage ends. And yet a mother is supposed to live in misery to hold it all together.
Don’t. You have been torn apart, trying to connect to this man in any way you could. He gaslighted you by blaming you. Then he was off doing what he was doing, spending household income on it to.
Even if he does get therapy, and stick to it, the responses in his brain are already skewed. He cannot have a physical response to a real life woman. He needs the dopamine hit which involved no connection, feeling or interaction. It’s a drug.
Set yourself free. Yes, it won’t be easy and of course your lives will change. But you’ve already spent ten years almost living in this misery.
He is clinging to you now to get help with his addiction. That’s all he cares about.
I could not stay with this man. I would rather build a new, happy life for myself elsewhere.

Mumisa · 14/03/2025 11:28

Thank you, I have been out of the workforce for 9 years so I do feel very nervous and lacking in confidence. But I know this is an important step for me to take in regaining my independence. I do think the financial dependence and low confidence have left me feeling low on options.

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Crikeyalmighty · 14/03/2025 13:01

Live Jasmin is a pop up on lots of other sites and basically it’s just full of very glamorous cam girls- it’s not the scuzzy end of the market. Absolutely nothing is for free apart from them sat there maybe looking seductive and it’s mainly paying for individual ‘performances’ - I hate porn in general and have a H with similar issues which has killed our sex life as I’m no longer interested ( am in my 60s) however use of any camsite and paying for it would see my H finally out the door- I don’t think he will get beyond it OP - once it’s routine and in their heads they just find craftier ways to access it - hidden 2nd phones etc. in my experience once trust is gone it’s very hard to get back - so you either live with it or think ‘no thanks’ although if your view is ‘no thanks’ I would kind of cool the issue and start to look at your options in the background rather than put yourself in a poor position.

Channellingsophistication · 14/03/2025 13:27

Sorry you are going through this. I think your DH has to really be committed that he wants to change.

I think porn is so damaging in a relationship and prolonged watching of porn can lead to ED also, because regular sex isn’t that exciting compared to what they can see online. I think that is the case with my DP. I just don’t think he finds me that arousing compared to what he can see online.

Your DH has treated you very badly, as well as spending household money on that site, so I can understand if you want to separate. I would ignore what your mum says, that was the put up, shut up generation and thankfully women have more freedom these days!

Perhaps have some relationship counselling and see how you feel. See if you think he is really committed and determined to making the marriage work - he needs to be really sorry for what he’s done

I also think it would be a good idea for you to get back into the workplace. It will help your confidence also I think.

MightyGoldBear · 14/03/2025 13:49

Hello op

I'm so sorry you're going through this. I counsel betrayed partners and porn addicts.
I know lots of women who have healed from this and are living wonderful lives with or without their partners. You just need support right now. It's a lot to process.

Here's some resources to get you started

Helping couples heal podcast
Choose to be podcast
Pbse podcast
Navigating betrayal group on Facebook
Love after porn on reddit
Omar minwhalla secret sexual basement
Naked truth project - uk based

Apsats/csats/coaches
Cat etherington - uk
Jake porter
Pam blizzard
Kaylee dunn
Kendra last

I would highly reccomend Chris jones therapy for your partner.

Its really important you both get the right support and trained therapists for this. Regardless if you stay together or not.
Your partners recovery is his own and not something you need to facilitate at all. Please focus on you right now.

Feel free to ask me anything or private message me.

Maitri108 · 14/03/2025 14:04

OP the only way this can work is if you accept celibacy and your husband cheating with cam sex workers. He may escalate to sex workers as he's escalated from porn .

You've been with him for ten years and you've spoken to him many times about your feelings but he preferred his secret life of masturbation and cheating to meeting your needs.

Divorce is expensive and he's going to lose his housekeeper. If he loved you and cared about you, he would have bent over backwards to meet your needs.

Taliah5 · 14/03/2025 16:07

The porn has obviously had an impact
However, it isn't mentioned enough that men need mental connection with their partner to be intimate with them in the same way that women do. Just focusing on the porn addiction only will not solve this for you.

SallyWD · 14/03/2025 16:53

I personally don't have a problem with occasional porn use. I have no idea if my husband looks at it. If he does it must be infrequently as he's a busy man! I don't care. It's not my business.
However, I do have an issue with porn addiction, paying for cam girls, daily porn use that means he no longer wants to have sex with you. These things can eat away at your relationship. It's very tough. You'll always be wondering. Sorry you're in this situation.

Mumisa · 15/03/2025 12:44

Thank you so much for this i appreciate it

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PeanutButterJellyx · 03/04/2025 16:22

This is NOT your fault OP. I’ve dated a porn addict too and it’s horrible and isolating and makes you feel like complete sh*t. Porn isn’t the harmless pastime people make it out to be, it ruins relationships and when it’s things involving actual interaction like OF and webcams and paying for services - it’s actively cheating imo - cheating doesn’t have to be physical. How would he feel if you were talking to other men sexually or paying to see other men’s nude content? I suspect he’d be very upset and feel cheated on himself. Recovery from porn addiction IS possible, I have a male friend who is a recovered addict but he was genuinely committed to quitting and cold turkey is the only way - once you’re an addict it’s not something you can engage in moderately - if he’s serious about quitting he needs to completely abstain. There IS support out there, there’s whole subreddits for other men going through the same thing. For my friend at least, he wasn’t able to have a meaningful relationship or enjoy actual sex until he completely quit porn altogether. He’s now happy and has been with his current partner for a few years, so it is possible to quit. But at the same time, you shouldn’t feel like you have to stay - staying in a sexless marriage where you feel unwanted is not fair on you and you absolutely should not have to put up with it.

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