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Thissucks125 · 14/03/2025 06:05

When I met my boyfriend 4 years ago he was around 2 years single. He was 13 years older than me. I was 31. I remember him telling me his ex had been really messy when they met. He described it as her full house was hoarded up. A cat pooing everywhere etc..he told me how she was struggling with paying a mortgage. He helped her sort the house out. Turn it around. Did the garden. Re pointed the bricks. From what I had seen on Facebook of her she was a normal person. I didnt see any signs of mess. She was independent. No children. Worked hard. I couldn't see any way she would have been dependant on him.

When we met I still shared a house (now sold) with My ex. So 18 months ago I began renting. I have a nice bungalow. Its 6 years old. It's small I guess. Open planned. When I moved in I bought sofas. Table. Beds and bedroom furniture all brand new. Plus a washer and fridge freezer. All my kitchen stuff was new aswel. I wasn't hoarded up at all. The kids have had 2 Christmas and 2 birthdays each so they have more toys.

My house is cleaned regular and can be tidied up in an hour usually. The actual bedrooms can need a serious tidy up twice a month because the kids do play and get their toys out. My 10 year old is currently into messy projects like Loom bands, making stuff and crafts. So her room often is a little upside down. She's not the best at putting washing and rubbish in the bin. But that's the story of many parents.

Overall I feel I have a nice home. When my boyfriend comes over. He acts like he's constantly running about after me. I find it really patronising. If I make a sandwich he's constantly saying I've just tidied this kitchen and how have you managed in 5 minutes to trash the place. He also comments that the table gets stuff put onto it. He says when you open my cupboards everything falls out because I'm so messy.

Recently he's been needing to stay with his daughter because of work reasons and he's searching for a new house as landlord has sold his. He told me while she was working he tidied up her whole kitchen and it was messy bla bla bla. Because she had been baking a cake etc.

He then said why is it when I come to your house or go to my daughters I always end up tidying up after you both.

He doesn't have much anymore. He got into allt of debt last year as he lost his job for a while. He's not got any furniture etc. Sometimes I find it weird he has a suitcase to show for his entire life. But I'm really fed up of him putting me down when I'm capable of running my home and working and caring for my kids too.

He also commented that his ex wife and he never allowed the kids rooms to be a mess etc. Their house was always spotless. Yet they had a miserable marriage!

OP posts:
Snoken · 14/03/2025 07:51

@Thissucks125 He's not here this week and it's bliss being able to do my own thing. I feel like he takes over when he's here. Takes over my evenings. My mornings. I dont feel I can be fully me when he's here.

These 4 sentences means this is not the man for you. You shouldn't feel like this. It's only him that benefits from this relationship, given that he is homeless, you seem to get nothing positive from it.

Thissucks125 · 14/03/2025 07:52

Joystir59 · 14/03/2025 07:02

He's probably doing it because he has no control over his own life and nothing materially to show for it. Just let him go- why on earth would you want a bossy critical man in your life?

It does feel like he's trying to prove where we are useless without him.

I know his daughter had baked a cake for her niece and it sounds like she had left the kitchen upside down. Gone to bed. Got up to work from home. He'd gone over and cleaned her kitchen. But it's like he refuses to see the rushing out the door. Or being tired after a days work. It's OK for him. He has no routine. Doesn't have to be out the door in the mornings. He only has himself to worry about.

I have a bird that flicks seeds allover. So I also hoover that up daily. I dont have carpets.ive had her 4 months. He's now saying she needs bigger cage. She's In a big enough cage and it's square and spacious. But I may consider another cage when she's fully grown. I get her out for a few hours a day at least too. So she's free alot..

OP posts:
Joystir59 · 14/03/2025 07:57

You are doing so well. So much better than this 'hoover fly' who perches on the edge of other (womens') lives and criticises everything they do, instead of looking after his own stuff.

AmandaHoldensLips · 14/03/2025 07:59

Sounds like the relationship has run its course and you're not compatible. Perhaps it's time for you to wish him well for his future and show him the door.

Dealormeal · 14/03/2025 08:01

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Molstraat · 14/03/2025 08:04

Why are you tolerating this useless whiny man in your house?

Get rid of him and don't allow him in your door again.

ruddygreattiger · 14/03/2025 08:09

Despite him being a critical drifting loser he's just one of those blokes that has to bring any woman down, this seems to be his usual method of negging. Loads of them about op, learn from this experience and move on. Dump this twat and tell him to sort his own life out, why you've tolerated this is beyond me.

Diningtableornot · 14/03/2025 08:10

Are you happy with him in other ways OP? Are you children fond of him and relaxed in his company?

Badbadbunny · 14/03/2025 08:21

You're clearly incompatible so time to split. Nothing wrong with him - lots of women would like a clean/tidy/organised partner. You're just different. My father in law was exactly the same - ex RAF so everything had to be neat, tidy and organised as that was what he was accustomed to after a decade or two in the armed forces. He always shined his shoes every day, ironed his own shirts, etc., wore a shirt and tie every day. His garage and garden shed were organised with military precision as were his bedroom clothes draws, photo albums, etc. He'd drive "some people" mad with it, but MIL was fine with it as she had similar tendencies and it's also rubbed off on OH as he was brought up in that kind of neat, tidy, organised environment, so he's the same at home with me. Again, luckily, I'm similar and also like things to be organised. With our son, toys were all put away at the end of every day, his bedroom tidied, beds made first thing in the morning. We always wash up after making a meal or cooking/baking, so kitchen is back to looking pristine with clear work surfaces etc within an hour, all dishes washed and put away, etc. Same with laundry and ironing - all washed ironed and put away same day. We have our routines which basically mean we never go to bed without the house looking as it did before we got up. A place for everything and everything in it's place. Different people have different attitudes. I couldn't live with a messy/disorganised person, which is probably why I chose my OH in the first place. As I started this thread, you're no compatible so need to move on.

TwistedWonder · 14/03/2025 08:25

Ask yourself why you’re tolerating this negging misery who brings zero to your life as your ‘partner’?

Life’s too short to waste time with this mood Hoover - get rid and enjoy your home your way.

ruddygreattiger · 14/03/2025 08:31

Sorry op, just reread your first post, you've been with him for 4 years???? Seriously, just bin him and move on.

Undoubtedly you will be added to his long list of messy exs that couldn't manage without him. 🙄 He is a pathetic inadequate loser.

CameltoeParkerBowles · 14/03/2025 08:37

ruddygreattiger · 14/03/2025 08:09

Despite him being a critical drifting loser he's just one of those blokes that has to bring any woman down, this seems to be his usual method of negging. Loads of them about op, learn from this experience and move on. Dump this twat and tell him to sort his own life out, why you've tolerated this is beyond me.

So many people saying this, but the OP is not really answering the question. Why bother with this twat at all? Let him go.

Vroomfondleswaistcoat · 14/03/2025 08:37

He sounds like one of those 'what you need to do, is...' people. Telling you how to live your life when the life he lives is completely different and he doesn't have any of the same stresses and time constraints.

Bin him off. It's easy to look at someone else's house and think 'if this were mine I'd do ....' But it isn't his house. He's the male equivalent of the MIL who goes around to her DS and DILs house and rearranges the cupboards 'because it's better that way'.

He hasn't got his own house, so he's trying it with yours!

Shinyandnew1 · 14/03/2025 08:38

So many people saying this, but the OP is not really answering the question. Why bother with this twat at all? Let him go.

This. Why haven't you dumped him? Think how much nicer your time at home would be without the prophet of doom and gloom in your life!

Dealormeal · 14/03/2025 08:39

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JustWalkingTheDogs · 14/03/2025 08:42

I also think it’s a control thing, I know lots of people, if they feel they have no control over their own lives, concentrate on things they can control, such as their environment. But that still doesn’t make it right the way he’s talking to you. I think I’d just snap back and tell him if he doesn’t like my home then he’s free to leave. If he says anything again just tell him to stop making remarks like that. He really is in a ‘put up or shut up’ situation.

DenholmElliot11 · 14/03/2025 08:43

When was the last time he brought you a bunch of flowers?

jubs15 · 14/03/2025 08:46

Give him a choice: either put up or shut up or you're done (or at least he is no longer welcome at your house - see how he likes that when he doesn't have his own place right now).

PickAChew · 14/03/2025 08:51

I think it's obvious why he was single when you met him. You need to declutter but not your house. He will probably end up in the recycling again.

Miaowzabella · 14/03/2025 08:54

When he gets his own establishment, he can run it however he likes. If he accepts other people's hospitality, he needs to take them as he finds them.

LittleGreenDragons · 14/03/2025 08:58

He's not here this week and it's bliss being able to do my own thing.

Keep reading that one sentence over and over until it dawns on you that this feeling could become permanent very easily.

Snoken · 14/03/2025 09:07

@Badbadbunny I think that's absolutely fine when it's your own home, everyone should live how they like. I don't think it's the same though when you make it your mission to go into other peoples homes and comment on how messy and unclean they are.

Garlicgarlicgarlic · 14/03/2025 09:10

Imagine how blissful your life will be when you dump him.

Tell him you don't need his thoughts or opinion your property, and just date him away from your house if he's actually worth dating.

Seaoftroubles · 14/03/2025 09:21

Negging and critical? Doesn't practice what he preaches, eg tobacco in his cutlery drawers? What a catch! He sounds grim OP. Get rid please before you waste any more of your precious time with this loser.

LemonLeaves · 14/03/2025 09:35

What is the point of him?

He sounds like a miserable control freak with the self-awareness of a potato. Spending his time negging women about the cleanliness of their houses, whilst his own place is a mess - all to try and make himself feel needed and relevant.

As PP have said, if you feel blissfully happy that you aren't having to deal with him this week, imagine how wonderful it will feel if you bin him off completely.