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Friend getting in touch after almost 6 months of NC

51 replies

Wedonttalkaboutboris · 08/03/2025 17:18

Advice needed on how to/whether to finally step away from a friendship. We’ve been friends for over 10 years. She was maid of honour at my wedding and at one time I would have considered her my best friend. For the first 5 years we were incredibly close but once I had my first child (as things can do) we drifted further apart. We were over an hour away from each other, there were lockdowns etc. I found her putting distance between us painful but accepted that the friendship had evolved and she was perhaps seeing it differently to how I was. I always got the feeling that I valued/put more weight into the friendship than perhaps she did.

I realised by around 2022 that this friendship was not what I thought it was and that we’d only physically seen each other about 2 times in the last few years. At first, we still messaged and interacted on social media and I put the lack of meet ups down to the after affect of lockdowns etc. but I realised it was still me driving any communication and I slowly pulled away.

She had also shown virtually no interest in my children, which is fine (she chose not to have children) but that’s also hard when you have very young kids and you’re at the stage of motherhood where it’s so all-consuming. I didn’t talk about them unless asked. When we did meet up she could only ever meet for about 2 hours and would rush off as she always had somewhere else to be/something to do. She’d never make the effort to travel to me, even when I had babies under the age of 2- we’d often end up meeting half way or I’d travel all the way to her. She has visited my home (that I’ve lived in for 6 years) once, when my youngest had just been born. I think I would have been accommodating about not physically seeing each other had she actually messaged/called but it felt like she didn’t actually want that either?

Eventually, last year (after having not seen each other since the previous August because she was so busy) I pushed for a date to meet up. She wanted me to meet her new partner so we arranged to meet and bring partners/family along (including new partners child). We hadn’t seen each other in over a year at this point and I would have enjoyed a proper catch up just us two…but friendships change and evolve and I’d come to terms with the fact that this was perhaps just a ‘keeping in touch for old times sake friendship’. She was excited about being a step-mum and showing a little more interest in my children.

As I feel that this is important context- when we met I also told her that unfortunately my mum was terminally ill and had at best a year left to live. Since this meeting, at the start of October last year, she has not been in contact once. I very consciously didn’t make any contact as I was tired of it feeling so one sided. I’ve actually found this really difficult as I would naturally have messaged- as I do all of my friends. It takes two minutes to send a quick checking in ‘how are you getting on?’ type message. I felt that at this stage she could get in touch or arrange something herself. Her silence had given me the answer I needed.

However, today she called and left a voicemail saying that she ‘finally had a minute’ so thought she would call for a catch up, that she’s been thinking of me lots and has been meaning to ring for the last 2 months. She has a childfree weekend every other weekend.

I feel so frustrated (and to be honest hurt by her). I have lots of very old friendships that are long distance but they don’t feel like this one. Is it simply because they still make the effort to contact/message? Is it normal to go half a year without speaking to a good friend? Am I being unreasonable and should I go easier on her?

OP posts:
Brentinger · 08/03/2025 19:52

The same thing happened to me, same situation with having young kids vs. her having no kids and a year of no contact. Decided to be the bigger person and write back, yet any meeting up had to be on her time and her area (90 minute drive for me)....then back to no responses.

I decided it wasn't worth it, people change over time and as someone mentioned, those 'fun friends' don't necessarily make for good, loyal, supportive friends in the long-term. You sound like you have plenty of other good friends and you don't need her in your life?

Wedonttalkaboutboris · 16/10/2025 16:23

Update… which strangely made me think of this thread after all of these months. I had some reassuring guidance on here last time.

I never returned her call/voicemail- I sent her a Watsapp basically saying that things were ridiculously busy and she replied saying much the same (this was back in March). She wished me a happy birthday in April, then in July she sent me a picture of a scan photo saying she is expecting. I just messaged back saying ‘lovely news x’. I thought that was that tbh but she’s just messaged today saying that she’ll be having a baby shower in January; ‘would be lovely if you could make it but also I understand it is a long journey for 1 day. But didn’t want to not invite you and it would be lovely if you were able’.

I feel torn. On one hand I think she’s prodded at the fact that we’re clearly not close anymore but that also it would feel awkward not to invite me? On the other, she literally has not asked me about my mum/family, my kids or my life (then, neither have I- but I was just reciprocating her energy).

I’ve done a good job in the last year of actively focusing on healthier relationships/friendships and recognising not so healthy patterns I was in previously. What’s the right thing to do here? I’d be fine advising a friend on a situation like this, but when it’s myself I can’t step back!

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GreyAreas · 18/10/2025 09:03

I think I would thank her for the invitation and politely decline, hoping she has a wonderful time. You can keep moving forward then and not get pulled back into the awkwardness. Resurrecting this is doomed to failure, probably. Her extending the invitation and you declining it is the best outcome for you I think.

theresbeautyinwindysun · 18/10/2025 09:10

I don’t think she’s given you any reason to go. She’s let you down so much over your mum and is in touch now to celebrate her own good news.

SomeConstellation · 18/10/2025 09:15

Well, do you want to go or not? That’s the only thing to consider here.

Wedonttalkaboutboris · 18/10/2025 09:15

Thank you. Just trying to figure out how to word it without sounding too blunt!

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Wedonttalkaboutboris · 18/10/2025 09:19

SomeConstellation · 18/10/2025 09:15

Well, do you want to go or not? That’s the only thing to consider here.

Not really no. Although she hasn’t actually told me the location/venue? (Which I found strange) - I assume it’s where she’s recently moved, which would be a 4 hour round trip for the day.

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CountFucula · 18/10/2025 09:27

I would send a message that sounds quite final:
Thanks so much for the invite I hope you have a lovely time. I can’t make it, but wish you all the best.

then I’d leave it. I expect she’ll have a ‘come to Jesus’ realisation once she’s had her baby about how she’s been a shit friend but you can’t change the past can you?

GingerPaste · 18/10/2025 09:34

‘She finally had a minute.’ It seems like that’s the most you’re worth to her - at best.

Given everything else you’ve written, I’m going to suggest you don’t respond. You’ve done most of the running (and with children in tow).

Accept that the friendship you had is gone and the current situation isn’t really worth anything.

CrowMate · 18/10/2025 09:38

I think the friendship has long since evolved into a different type of friendship than you had before, more of an acquaintance. I think you have to accept that you were once close friends, but are no longer. It’s not going to help you to keep measuring the interactions against those you had with her when you were closer friends. Rather to consider if you want to still make the effort to maintain an acquaintance with her.

i don’t think you need to send anything final. It’s already drifted and unless you engage with information or invites, will either stay distant or more than likely fade away completely.

Tweedled · 18/10/2025 09:53

CountFucula · 18/10/2025 09:27

I would send a message that sounds quite final:
Thanks so much for the invite I hope you have a lovely time. I can’t make it, but wish you all the best.

then I’d leave it. I expect she’ll have a ‘come to Jesus’ realisation once she’s had her baby about how she’s been a shit friend but you can’t change the past can you?

I wouldn’t be so pleasant after the way she has treated you.
I won’t be coming but I hope you have a lovely day and wish you all the best for the future.
Hopefully that will be the end of it, you don’t deserve to be picked up then dropped whenever she feels like it.

CrowMate · 18/10/2025 11:02

This is where it is subjective, though. The OP has admitted to testing the waters and not messaging as often / suggesting meet ups. Chances are her friend isn’t thinking about it as much or as strategically, and is just feeling these lapses in contact as natural drifting.

We can only hear the OP’s perspective. Which isn’t describing terrible treatment, just a naturally changing dynamic between women who were once close but now live at some distance, rarely see each other, and have been through different phases of life at different times. Why a need to create bad feeling?

Sheridanbucket · 18/10/2025 11:09

I think I’d be ok with months of no contact. What round really annoy me would be the making you travel to her.
She sounds selfish. She clearly values having you there, but as someone she can pick up and drop as and when.
I’d relegate her in my mind. Don’t give her the headspace.

Sheridanbucket · 18/10/2025 11:16

With people like this, all is great while you do all the running but they become very sensitive if they sense rejection from you.
If you decline the invite, even if you do it in a friendly way, she will take offence. I think you have to be prepared for and at peace with that outcome, and brush it off.

olympicsrock · 18/10/2025 11:18

I think this is very easy to decline. She’s not inviting you to stay so it’s a bit half hearted .

Thank you for the invitation - sweet of you. I can’t make it I’m afraid . Have fun ! Looking forward to seeing a pic of your baby. Much love x

You then have to decide if you can accept a superficial for old time’s sake friendship. You will never have the same deep and meaningful friendship I think . I suspect when she has her baby she will realise that she has been a shit friend.

INeedAnotherAlibi · 18/10/2025 11:42

I ditched a friend (at one time my ‘best friend’) when she wasn’t there for me when my Mum was dying. Too wrapped up in her own life.
Cynically I’d just think this woman is hoping for a gift from you. I’d honestly say ‘Thanks for the invite but I won’t be attending. It’s clear we’ve drifted apart. All the best for the future’ and just cut contact. She hasn’t had time for you when you really needed her. She will be all wrapped up with her pregnancy and baby, she won’t get any better.

pikkumyy77 · 18/10/2025 13:29

olympicsrock · 18/10/2025 11:18

I think this is very easy to decline. She’s not inviting you to stay so it’s a bit half hearted .

Thank you for the invitation - sweet of you. I can’t make it I’m afraid . Have fun ! Looking forward to seeing a pic of your baby. Much love x

You then have to decide if you can accept a superficial for old time’s sake friendship. You will never have the same deep and meaningful friendship I think . I suspect when she has her baby she will realise that she has been a shit friend.

I like this! Its cool without being rude.

Theoldbird · 18/10/2025 13:44

Tweedled · 18/10/2025 09:53

I wouldn’t be so pleasant after the way she has treated you.
I won’t be coming but I hope you have a lovely day and wish you all the best for the future.
Hopefully that will be the end of it, you don’t deserve to be picked up then dropped whenever she feels like it.

Agree. also she still hasn't asked about your mum has she?

btw, how is your mum @Wedonttalkaboutboris ?

ExposedCankles · 18/10/2025 15:43

I would decline. The whole day will be about her and that may sting when she has been so disinterested in your children and now not asking about your mum. I can’t see how you will get any joy from the day and she doesn’t really deserve you going out of your way.

Wedonttalkaboutboris · 18/10/2025 16:06

Thank you for all of your replies!

I’ve decided I will very politely decline using some of the suggested wording from some of your posts (thank you!)

Something I didn’t mention in my op (as I didn’t want people’s views to be skewed) was that she has done this consistently to all her friends bar two friends from uni (who she still used to frequently bitch about). She would make really intense, all-encompassing friendships with new work-colleagues, be the best-of-friends with them for a couple of years, then discard them. She ended lots of friendships while we were close, including her oldest best friend from school- which was one of my first red flags. But in a pathetic way, I always felt a bit smug it wasn’t me and I was still a ‘chosen’ one. Realised I probably stopped chasing her approval once I had children.

Having worked it out, it would be a nearly 6 hour round trip (a consistent theme throughout our friendship though…I once did a similar journey to her with my dd when she was 1 that I still feel awful about because she had horrendous travel sickness).

So, given she hasn’t offered a place to stay, I’d either have to shlep across the country all day or book a hotel for the night. A hotel to myself did sound dreamy…Then I realised. I have free-will. I can do that anyway, without the emotional baggage of attending this shower! So that is exactly what I will be doing (perhaps with my mum) ♥️ Time for me to look after myself.

And my mum is actually doing better than we thought she would be by this point! Though she is not well by any means and we are just enjoying as much time together as possible. Although she would not know, given she hasn’t asked.

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Wedonttalkaboutboris · 18/10/2025 16:09

ExposedCankles · 18/10/2025 15:43

I would decline. The whole day will be about her and that may sting when she has been so disinterested in your children and now not asking about your mum. I can’t see how you will get any joy from the day and she doesn’t really deserve you going out of your way.

Second this. Especially- ‘when she has been so disinterested in your children’. When I say disinterested, it was like they literally didn’t exist.

I was the very first of my friends to have kids so I had nothing to measure it against and thought perhaps it was normal. It was only when other friends followed I realised how odd it felt not to ask after their babies and kids.

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tryingtobesogood · 18/10/2025 16:12

Wedonttalkaboutboris · 08/03/2025 17:45

@Happyg1rl71 she has said ‘hope your mums doing well, would love to touch base about that’…

Would love to touch base? That makes it sound like a work meeting, not a conversation about your poor mum being ill.

Honestly, this friendship was run its course. I would just let it go and not bother with it anymore. Friendship should be given tight and it sounds like she has not been giving anything for quite some time. As you suspect she probably is going through something now, and whilst she is entitled to support for that, she should be supporting you through the difficult time that you’re having. That’s how friendships work.

Edited to add that I didn’t realise this was an old post, and that you had gone low contact with her. I completely agree with your decision not to bother, she doesn’t sound like a very nice friend to have. She doesn’t seem worth the effort to be honest.

ExposedCankles · 18/10/2025 16:20

Wedonttalkaboutboris · 18/10/2025 16:06

Thank you for all of your replies!

I’ve decided I will very politely decline using some of the suggested wording from some of your posts (thank you!)

Something I didn’t mention in my op (as I didn’t want people’s views to be skewed) was that she has done this consistently to all her friends bar two friends from uni (who she still used to frequently bitch about). She would make really intense, all-encompassing friendships with new work-colleagues, be the best-of-friends with them for a couple of years, then discard them. She ended lots of friendships while we were close, including her oldest best friend from school- which was one of my first red flags. But in a pathetic way, I always felt a bit smug it wasn’t me and I was still a ‘chosen’ one. Realised I probably stopped chasing her approval once I had children.

Having worked it out, it would be a nearly 6 hour round trip (a consistent theme throughout our friendship though…I once did a similar journey to her with my dd when she was 1 that I still feel awful about because she had horrendous travel sickness).

So, given she hasn’t offered a place to stay, I’d either have to shlep across the country all day or book a hotel for the night. A hotel to myself did sound dreamy…Then I realised. I have free-will. I can do that anyway, without the emotional baggage of attending this shower! So that is exactly what I will be doing (perhaps with my mum) ♥️ Time for me to look after myself.

And my mum is actually doing better than we thought she would be by this point! Though she is not well by any means and we are just enjoying as much time together as possible. Although she would not know, given she hasn’t asked.

❤️ That sounds like a much, much more valuable way to spend your time. Sending best wishes to you and your mum.

Wedonttalkaboutboris · 18/10/2025 16:31

CrowMate · 18/10/2025 11:02

This is where it is subjective, though. The OP has admitted to testing the waters and not messaging as often / suggesting meet ups. Chances are her friend isn’t thinking about it as much or as strategically, and is just feeling these lapses in contact as natural drifting.

We can only hear the OP’s perspective. Which isn’t describing terrible treatment, just a naturally changing dynamic between women who were once close but now live at some distance, rarely see each other, and have been through different phases of life at different times. Why a need to create bad feeling?

I do also agree with this. I can excruciatingly see it from her point of view too. I’m sure a thread from her side would also elicit agreement. The one thing that has made it clearer for me was my mum.

I actually cringe now when I think I asked her to be my maid of honour, as she had given me a few very definite signs prior that we weren’t on that level of friendship. I should have seen them for what they were. I worry now that she just felt too awkward to decline.

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Tara220 · 18/10/2025 16:58

Ive had a similar experience, friends for a very long time but only as long as its drove the 100 plus miles to visit her (doesn't drive) after I moved away. We would stay in contact by text (her preferred method) and meet up when I could. However, my DF became very ill with dementia and it became time consuming dealing with all that brings. It was tiring, stressful and upsetting I stayed on touch but had little time or energy to drive the 130 miles to see friend and drive home again (I have a chronic illness which has become much worse lately).

Friend kept complaining "she hasn't seen me" and I explained many times I am not well, DF is seriously ill and when I am able to visit the area I want to see him as I dont know how much time we have left.

Friend then stopped contacting me for months at a time and when I contacted her was disinterested in my lovely news of DD getting married. So I left it didnt bother contact her and when DF died a few months later i didn't contact her she found out by Facebook.

I then had a few generic texts saying she was sorry for my loss etc and "it would be lovely to see you" once again that would mean me driving 100s miles which im just not up too any more and I told her that AGAIN.

The final straw for me has been the text I recieved 3 days after I buried DF asking "have you been up too much?" So I responded yes got out last week for DF funeral and wake..

Thankfully not heard anything since.

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