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Lost in my marriage

24 replies

HopingForHelp2 · 03/03/2025 05:08

Hi there,

I’m really hoping for some help with mine and my husbands situation.

We’ve been together for 10 years, married for 1.5 years and we’ve been each others best friends since we were teenagers. We’ve grown up together, done everything together, and most recently we’re almost at the end of renovating our house and found out (about 6 weeks ago) that we’re expecting our first child. This came as a big surprise and we did consider our options (not something I thought we’d have to do after 10 years together and how stable we are in terms of a home and jobs) but ultimately decided that kids were always part of our plan and it’s just happened a little earlier than we thought.

The problem is, prior to finding out we’re expecting we’ve been attending couples counselling because we’ve had issues around a female work colleague of my husbands.

I raised concerns about how often they were seeing each other, inside and outside of work. How often I heard them on 1-2-1 ‘meetings’ at work. And the fact that they were texting from morning until late at night (whilst we lay in bed) everyday.
These concerns grew gradually over the past 2.5 years of them knowing each other.
This peaked when we attended her wedding, where my husband ignored me for most of the day and didn’t even acknowledge when I left to manage my anxiety multiple times during the event. He never asked me if I was okay, and hardly interacted with me. So much so that another guest was audibly surprised when he told them that we were married.

Long story short, after multiple discussions over my concerns about their relationship, I asked if I could read some of the texts they would send daily to get some comfort over the type of things they talk about, and he instantly became bothered and worried but knew it would look as if he had something to hide if he didn’t let me see them.

I found years of ‘I’m not going anywhere’, ‘you’re amazing’, ‘I’m here always, if you ever need anything’, ‘I’ll come sit in your house and bring you medicine or food if you ever need it’.
But there are 3 comments in particular that hurt the most:

  1. The night before her wedding (late at night) he text to say ‘you’re going to look amazing, this I know for sure. The stairmaster has certainly been working, and I’ve only seen you in leggings and a jumper’.
  2. After she posted her wedding photos on Facebook, he said ‘seen your wedding photos, they look amazing 😍’.
  3. ‘If you think I’m protective now, wait until you have kids.’

I have to fish for comments like this - I have to ask ‘do I look nice today’. ‘What do you think of my hair?’ ‘Do you think the gym has been working?’

I asked him to stop texting her as often, and stop the 1-2-1 lunches at work, and 1-2-1 dinners after work. I told him I knew that asking him to end the ‘friendship’ wouldn’t help our relationship in the long run so tried to compromise by agreeing on boundaries which he refers to as ‘rules’ and me being controlling. I’m at a loss for what to do.

To his credit he hasn’t seen her outside of work since, and tells me he has other colleagues come to lunch with him where possible, and apparently the volume of texts have reduced but I’m expected to trust all this is true, from someone who’s betrayed that trust.
Our relationship has been my safe space for as long as I can remember, but the relationship with this woman has completed demolished that. I don’t feel safe, and just feel like a nag.

Also just a couple of bits of info - he doesn’t like to use the word ‘wife’. It’s been a struggle for him to ever use it, and still refers to me as partner.
He wasn’t bothered about me changing my surname to his - and actually said multiple times he prefers my old name.
He only wears his wedding ring to events, if I remind him. This was brought up in counselling and he does now try to make an effort to remember it for events, and wears it to work.
But these things make me feel like our marriage didn’t happen - like he doesn’t want to acknowledge that, or me as his wife.
It feels like he’s not proud to call me his wife and show off that he’s married by wearing his ring.

Bringing it all back round to when we found out we’re expecting, all he could obsess over for a couple of weeks was ‘how did it happen?’ That’s all he would say on the topic, and now it’s complete silence.
I’ve had to bring up any conversation about it. I’ve had to arrange appointments and medication whilst managing morning sickness and work etc.
When I mentioned about telling people he said he wasn’t saying anything, and I can just tell everyone.
It’s as if he’s pretending it doesn’t exist.
When I’ve been sick (morning sickness), he refused to kiss or hug me for a couple of weeks insisting I’m not well and he doesn’t want to catch anything from me. I’ve had to initiate hugs, and any form of physical touch which used to be standard in our house. Except for actual intimacy - he’s still initiating that which is only causing me confusion.

He’s been so distant and off. And last night he casually told me that he’s upping his in office days (which aren’t mandatory by his work) to weekly rather than fortnightly.
For context on in office days, he meets this female colleague in the morning, they get the train together, sit next to each other, get lunch, and get the train home together. It’s just those two - he doesn’t do this with any other colleagues.

Hence this post. I need help. Am I crazy for feeling insecure about this woman, and for feeling like he’s stripped away any happiness I could feel around our pregnancy.
I feel like a personification of something that has altered a relationship he was enjoying, and of a ‘mistake’ (pregnancy) that he’s deep down not interested in.

I’m so sorry for the long post - so much on my mind!

Any external views would be helpful xx

OP posts:
FondantFancyFan · 03/03/2025 05:21

I am so sorry but what you've posted isn't good and is a very intense emotional affair at best. I wouldn't be surprised if it was a full blown affair and I wouldn't want to continue the marriage. You and your child will always play second fiddle to this woman and any potential children she has. If her marriage ever broke down, I think the man you married would make a move.

Please don't continue the marriage and save yourself heartache further down the line. I'm usually very pro life but also pro choice I'm certain situations. In your position, I wouldn't be continuing with the pregnancy so you're not tied to him for the rest of your life. It's probably not what you want to hear but this is my opinion.

Whenim63 · 03/03/2025 05:26

I’m sorry op, but I wouldn’t be having a baby with this man. The intensity of the “friendship” with this woman is something I wouldn’t tolerate in my own relationship.
You’ve been married less than 2 years, you are already in therapy together, his behaviour, is, at best, completely sketchy.
I know it’s vey easy to say “leave” but honestly, I’d be telling him to end all contact and get another job or I was out. He would also need to admit and acknowledge that he had massively crossed a line and work to repair the massive damage that he has done to your relationship.

TerrorAustralis · 03/03/2025 05:29

I’m sorry OP, but from what you’ve described, it sounds like he’s in love with her, not you.

Like the PPs, I think you need to seriously consider whether you want to continue this pregnancy. And you definitely need to be getting your ducks in a row, because it sounds like your marriage is over.

category12 · 03/03/2025 05:46

I think you'd be better off letting him go.

This is ruining your mental health and it seems like you're hanging on to someone that's not that bothered, but doesn't have the guts to end it with you.

You deserve better. You deserve someone who's all in.

Personally if it's early days, I'd consider ending the pregnancy and the relationship. A baby is a bit of a grenade into a relationship in good times, and it's hard to keep a solid self image, let alone when trying with a man who makes you feel second best.

HappiestSleeping · 03/03/2025 06:17

I'm a man, and think that his behaviour sucks. Even apart from the other woman thing, which is bad enough in isolation, the fact that he doesn't acknowledge you as his wife, or seemingly want to acknowledge the impending addition of a child is outrageous.

I agree with the previous posters.

Endofyear · 03/03/2025 06:23

OP he is treating you appallingly. He is having an inappropriate relationship with another woman and showing you no love or care, despite you being pregnant. I know it's something you probably don't want to acknowledge but deep down you must know that he seems to have checked out of your relationship. I think you need to sit him down and ask him straight out if he wants to split up. Tell him that his behaviour is so unacceptable that you cannot carry on this way. If he loves you, he needs to step up and show it and stop all contact with the work colleague that is not essential for work. The problem is, do you really trust him to do this?

Channellingsophistication · 03/03/2025 06:24

Sadly, I think he’s in love with this woman. They have had an intense emotional affair for the last couple of years.

I’m not sure there’s any hope for this marriage. It feels like he’s devastated that she is now married and he has completely turned away from you.

You have to consider whether you want to stay in this marriage and continue the pregnancy as he is clearly not happy about the baby either.

onetwothreefourfive11 · 03/03/2025 06:30

He doesn't love you

It's been going on for so long, he has never valued you or your feelings.

It seems as though you have very low self esteem to have accepted this and to just take whatever he gives you but put her first.

He's having an emotional affair.

I would end the pregnancy and move on.

So sorry you're going through this.
But life would be 100x better out of this.

Free yourself and your mind

category12 · 03/03/2025 06:42

I think in a few years time, he will leave you, maybe not for this woman, but another one, and he'll say horrendous things like he never loved you anyway and you somehow trapped him into marriage and babies.

And it's all cos he hasn't the balls to break it off now. I think you should pull the trigger on it and save yourself years.

Roseshavethorns · 03/03/2025 07:02

There are two issues here
The way his attitude towards you and the messages/ work colleague.
His attitude towards you is awful. Being pregnant isn't easy. He sounds like he is in complete denial. I would think long and hard about the future. What do you think he will be like when the baby is here.
How is he normally when things don't go to plan?

You say that you had to leave the wedding multiple times to deal with your anxiety and he didn't bother to check you were ok. Are you normally this anxious or was it because of the particular event? Because the guests at the wedding were work colleagues instead of friends do you think he may have found it awkward to explain his wife repeatedly leaving? Work life and home life meeting can often be uncomfortable because we show different people different parts of our personality.

Do you both work from home? (You say you hear them on calls during work). The problem with working from home is that your world can become very small. Little annoyances become big issues. It can also be very easy to blur the lines between work and home. When DH worked from home he was on his work phone at all times of the day and night.

If you are together nearly all the time then you can become very aware of what the other partner is doing. Normal office behaviour can suddenly seem important when you have nothing else to distract you. It can feel as if your partner is having in-depth conversations with colleagues when you have nothing really to talk about. You have no news or funny stories to tell because you are experiencing everything together.

The messages themselves wouldn't worry me. They sound, to me, like messages from a supportive friend to someone who needs some reassurance or support. I would send the same type of message to a colleague who has been worrying about her wedding. There are no romantic overtones. The last one sounds like she has been complaining that he is being over protective like an older brother or parent. Nothing romantic at all.

Sometimes you can just click with someone and you become very comfortable with them very quickly. Nothing romantic just very good friends on the same wavelength. Your DH and his colleague have a shared experience of work and wedding planning. That can form the basis of an easy friendship. Sometimes if we are having a stressful time (planning a wedding or a partners health issues) we cling on to these as respite.

He has, from what you say, slightly changed his behaviour regarding work and this colleague. Has this made you feel any better? It sounds like he is trying to make an effort.

Velvian · 03/03/2025 07:07

I think if you definitely want to have the baby, you need to accept that you will probably be a single mum sooner rather than later.

I don't think you will be together long term. The sooner you end it, the better for you.

He is not husband and father material. 💐

Bittenonce · 03/03/2025 07:13

So - he’s infatuated with her. She clearly enjoys the attention. He’s not exactly showing you respect. I think if I were her husband, then yours would have a bloody nose by now…. I see the usual chorus of LTB, which normally I hate to go along with, but I have to agree that you’re right to be concerned and I’d worry that the having a child puts a huge stress on any relationship, even if you’re starting from a strong and healthy place. Which you’re not.

NameChanges123 · 03/03/2025 07:45

I'm really sorry but this man isn't your best friend.

He has no respect for you and doesn't care about you (because he cares about someone else).

You probably need to start making plans to leave.

ladyinred36 · 03/03/2025 07:49

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Motherrr · 03/03/2025 07:51

Oh gosh you poor thing. At a time when you're vulnerable and need his love and reassurance the most, he's giving you the cold shoulder.

It doesn't sound like he respects you at all... not acknowledging you as his wife etc.

How old are you? I think you have to be prepared to go it alone, or consider an abortion if co-parenting isn't what you want from life.

You deserve much more than a man who treats you like this. You're not being a nag, don't let him gaslight you like that

Dery · 03/03/2025 07:55

Sorry you’re in this position, OP. You and your H got together very young (as teenagers) and it sounds as if your relationship may have run its course but he’s too cowardly to admit that he wants out.

rivalsbinge · 03/03/2025 07:58

OP I've been him, I've been that person who had an emotional affair so can with confidence say he's in love with her, or in love with the idea of her, for me it was 2 years of non stop chat day and night but this was 7 years again and I still even though NC think about the other guy.

Their comments and chat are crossing lines and I would really think they are physical it's very rare to not be. I wonder why her new DH tolerates this?

He's not treating you well and you need to let him go and leave, I wish my DH had chucked me out on my arse but he didn't.

Physically I'm in the marriage emotionally the bond with my husband is broken.

He will never be the same he will never look at you the way you need him too.

piscofrisco · 03/03/2025 08:04

Please don't stay with this man OP. You deserve more than this. Your confidence must be rock bottom. If you leave I'm pretty sure that after some time you will find yourself again and the find someone who doesn't make you feel so much less than you are. He is having an affair (emotional or otherwise) in plain sight and he has you so tied up in knots that you are questioning your own judgment on it. Trust your gut and tbh your own eyes here.

I know from personal experience that this is so so hard. But staying where something isn't right is a waste of your life and you only get one.

notatinydancer · 03/03/2025 08:11

He's having an affair or trying very hard to.
I wonder why she got married ?
You'll end up a single mother.

notatinydancer · 03/03/2025 08:12

ETA
Babies put enormous strain on marriages.

RedHelenB · 03/03/2025 08:26

Those messages don't suggest it's a physical affair yet. But he is thinking about her a lot, and not about you and your pregnancy. He should be excited, wanting to tell people but he isn't.
As others have said, you need to name the decision on whether to continue the pregnancy based on the fact he no longer loves and cares for you.

Notahandmaid · 03/03/2025 08:53

Sorry, OP, I agree with the PP that your DH doesn’t sound very invested in your relationship. The messages don’t imply it’s physical yet but it does sound as if he has a crush or that he idolises her-easy to do when you’re not in a relationship with that person and not experiencing all their idiosyncrasies and quirks on a daily basis. As a PP said, I wonder why she bothered getting married and why she isn’t withdrawing from your DH now she is married. Or why she doesn’t consider all of this to be inappropriate.

Time to set some boundaries or (sadly) get out, I think. Sorry.

SprySheep · 03/03/2025 09:11

I would say that he has checked out of your relationship but hasn't got the guts to end it with you, he is most certainly in love with this other woman and is having an emotional affair & if she gave him the chance it would become physical.
It can be very easy to fall into marriage, buying a house, having a kid with someone you have been with since you were teenagers because that's what you think you should do, but it sounds like you've outgrown each other & he just doesn't want to admit it.
I think you either have to accept you'll be a single parent or you'll remain in this unhappy marriage because neither of you will be the first to end it.
I would consider ending this pregnancy or if you continue with it do so with the understanding you'll be a single parent at some point as I don't see this marriage lasting.

RedJamDoughnut · 07/03/2025 21:41

That is an emotional affair he needs to break off all contact or you need to agree to an open relationship or you need to split.

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