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Muggins92 · 11/02/2025 14:41

I've been with my husband for 15 years We have kids together We decided to open our marriage up and invite somebody in 6 months was ok I decided it wasn't for me I told him I didn't want this anymore and I did I went along with it for him he knows this she moving in with us but having me just as a friend no sexual interaction with her as I stopped it he said he was attracted to her he told her you loved her on the bed and then retracted it things went sour cut the long story short we ended up splitting up she moved out because what the relationships done this as affected me really badly and he can't see that I was crying out for help and he did nothing to help me I told him so many times I didn't want this relationship he didn't listen he was just because she held around the house and did a bit of cleaning up and fed the kids ect I was taking her out everywhere I was her glorified taxi in the end I kicked him out because I couldn't deal with it anymore couldn't deal with the stress couldn't deal with anything and then he sends me a WhatsApp and capital letters saying he doesn't want me it's over didn't tell me face six weeks into our separation he sends me another message saying he's getting into relationship with her and looking for her house with her so I kicked off now he's being cold won't speak to me he's still speaking to her he said he's not in a relationship but when you've been told you are you kind of believe you don't you I love him and I do 15 years together 7 years of marriage and all of this I cheated on him he made me feel worthless in the end I generally give up on myself and everything else blhe cheated on me he watched me go down bank very quickly I lost myself my worth me as a mum everything else so I could think of my emotions were hidden they were hidden that much I generally thought I didn't have any now it's 3 months into our separation he's not gone to America to help his brother he said his brother's priority at the moment because his baby's passed away I've been left again with other four kids three of them have autistic needs it is affected our children really badly this breakup has they have seen me wanted to trying with him. regardless what's going on regardless of the cheating both ends he told me he doesn't want me he does not love me does not care about me it's an asked about me doesn't give a s what I do anymore What are you still looking on my camera watching what I am doing I saw my camera move the other day I thought I was seeing things but I wasn't he has access to them he questions where I'm going he I'm going out with or what I'm going to do me if I say I'm going out and then you'll see it's none of my business and then he's being like this it's cold not even speaking he's blocked me the only contact I have is Via email now I've got the doctors to sort myself out his took no responsibility for his part in this and he hasn't isn't bothered it's about his himself now he said he can see his life without me what do I do here do I just leave him get on with it wait for him divorce me now cos he left to pay for it I don't think you're sexually attracted to her because he's not just some things that he did when we were together he would she's lazy and she is she uses a mental health for literally everything now she doesn't go to work she's not ambitious she's clingy You know it's always about her needs and what she wants she doesn't take things to seriously she just likes to jump in the car and f off out that's something that I can't do I'm not like that I'm the opposite I like to do things for myself I like to make sure things are done properly carefully I don't understand what she sees in it to be honest and I don't but the fact of it is now it's like What do I do for me do I try to fix my marriage with him after all this time or do I just let him go live he's life he thinks he can have with her There's a saying the grass is green on the other side but actually her grass is not greener it's more like brown and piss colour anyway I also myself worth now I'm a bubbly person and kind hearted and I will go out my way to do anything for anybody and I will just this past year and a bit has been the most horrible thing for me ever he's never put me first he said I was at the top of his list can't be at the top he's list can I when he messaged me that any of us would appreciate it.

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Discombobble · 11/02/2025 14:43

I think you’ll get more response if you make that readable?

Completelyjo · 11/02/2025 14:45

So hard to follow.

MrsTerryPratchett · 11/02/2025 14:46

Hi OP. If you stick the story into ChatGP and ask it to punctuate, it will.

Gotabadfeelingaboutthis · 11/02/2025 14:47

Yeh sorry @Muggins92, I can't advise as it's just too difficult to understand 😔 but I'm sorry you've been hurt.

Checkhov · 11/02/2025 14:47

In my opinion you need to split up with him. How old are your kids, OP? Do you own your home jointly?

MrsTerryPratchett · 11/02/2025 14:48

I’ve been with my husband for 15 years. We have kids together. We decided to open our marriage up and invite somebody in. The first six months were okay, but I decided it wasn’t for me. I told him I didn’t want this anymore, and I meant it. I went along with it for him—he knows this.

The woman we brought in ended up moving in with us, but I was just her friend, with no sexual interaction, as I had stopped it. He said he was attracted to her. He told her he loved her in bed and then retracted it. Things went sour.

To cut a long story short, we ended up splitting up. She moved out because of what the relationship had done to me—it affected me really badly, and he couldn’t see that. I was crying out for help, and he did nothing. I told him so many times that I didn’t want this relationship, but he didn’t listen. He was just bothered because he helped around the house a little, did some cleaning, and fed the kids, but I was the one taking her out everywhere—I was her glorified taxi.

In the end, I kicked him out because I couldn’t deal with it anymore. I couldn’t deal with the stress, with anything. Then he sends me a WhatsApp message in all capital letters saying he doesn’t want me, that it’s over. He didn’t even tell me face to face.

Six weeks into our separation, he sends me another message saying he’s getting into a relationship with her and looking for a house with her. So, I lost it. Now he’s being cold, won’t speak to me, but he’s still speaking to her. He says he’s not in a relationship, but when you’ve been told otherwise, you kind of believe it, don’t you?

I love him—I do. 15 years together, 7 years of marriage, and now this. I cheated on him, and he cheated on me. He watched me go downhill very quickly—I lost myself, my worth, my identity as a mom, everything. My emotions were so buried that I genuinely thought I didn’t have any.

Now, three months into our separation, he’s gone to America to help his brother because his brother’s baby passed away. I’ve been left alone again with our four kids—three of whom have autistic needs. This breakup has affected them really badly. They have seen me struggle and wanted to go through this as a family, regardless of everything that’s happened, regardless of the cheating on both ends.

He told me he doesn’t want me, doesn’t love me, doesn’t care about me, doesn’t ask about me—doesn’t give a s* what I do anymore. So why is he still watching me on the cameras? I saw my camera move the other day—I thought I was seeing things, but I wasn’t. He has access to them. He questions where I’m going, who I’m with, what I’m doing. But if I say I’m going out, he’ll tell me it’s none of his business. He’s blocked me, and now the only contact we have is via email.

I’ve gone to the doctor to sort myself out. He’s taken no responsibility for his part in this. He’s only ever been bothered about himself. Now he says he can see his life without me.

What do I do here? Do I just leave him and let him get on with it? Wait for him to divorce me—because he’d have to pay for it? I don’t even think he’s sexually attracted to her, because when we were together, there were things that made it clear he had issues in that area.

She’s lazy. She uses her mental health as an excuse for everything. She doesn’t work, isn’t ambitious, and she’s clingy. It’s always about her needs and what she wants. She doesn’t take things seriously—she just likes to jump in the car and f* off whenever she feels like it. That’s not me. I like to be responsible. I like to make sure things are done properly.

I don’t even understand what he sees in her, to be honest. But now I’m left wondering—do I try to fix my marriage after all this time, or do I just let him go? Do I just let him live the life he thinks he can have with her?

There’s a saying: The grass is greener on the other side, but in reality, her grass isn’t greener—it’s more like a brown, piss-colored mess.

I know what I can offer. I know my worth now. I’m a bubbly, kind-hearted person who will go out of my way for anyone. But this past year and a bit has been the worst time of my life. He’s never put me first. He said I was at the top of his list—but I can’t have been, can I?

Checkhov · 11/02/2025 14:48

Just to add, he is a creepy abusive perve and you are being coerced.

MrsTerryPratchett · 11/02/2025 14:48

Sorry for the weird TMs everywhere.

Dror · 11/02/2025 14:51

Checkhov · 11/02/2025 14:47

In my opinion you need to split up with him. How old are your kids, OP? Do you own your home jointly?

This doesn't matter, as they're married the house is a marital asset.

HawkersNorth · 11/02/2025 14:53

Very hard to understand, punctuation is your friend. From what I can gather though you should divorce, sounds very dysfunctional/toxic - both cheating, open marriage, something about a tooth? I feel for the children who are caught up in this.

MrsTerryPratchett · 11/02/2025 14:56

BTW after I ran the story through ChatGP for punctuation, it said that was disturbing and sad and did I need help.

AI thinks it's not OK. Even a robot knows.

Muggins92 · 11/02/2025 14:57

Yes they have but they're more devastating that their dad won't come back and make it out with their mum and it's affected him really bad and he's just seems that he doesn't care

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Muggins92 · 11/02/2025 14:58

My children are young They're not even in their teens yet my oldest understands what is affected in really badly and it has

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Heyzeedays · 11/02/2025 14:58

He’s bad for you. Let him go.

Muggins92 · 11/02/2025 15:01

I do love him and I do it's his actions that I don't love and what he's done to me and how he sent me a WhatsApp saying it's over and capital letters and saying he doesn't want me then goes running to his 6 weeks after and then he said he's not willing to discuss anything else with me does he want me to sit here and total my thumbs but soon as I mention anything or a friend helping me a male friend I quote he then goes horrible and cold towards me he's too no responsibility in any of this he wanted her to be in our marriage I didn't I saw her is just a friend I stopped everything with her because I was not attracted to her and then it affected me not just mentally but everything else as well that I am dealing with

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Completelyjo · 11/02/2025 15:26

Muggins92 · 11/02/2025 14:58

My children are young They're not even in their teens yet my oldest understands what is affected in really badly and it has

And yet you moved some random woman into your house in some sort of thruple?

PeppyTealDuck · 11/02/2025 15:32

Time to end the toxic and dramatic relationship OP.
Give yourself the goal of creating a calm, stable and loving environment for your children (and for you) without your husband.

TipsyJoker · 11/02/2025 15:38

Ok. So, he has told you he doesn’t love you and doesn’t want to be with you. I believe him and so should you. He wants to be with other women. I know that hurts but you have to accept it.

This marriage is toxic and probably emotionally abusive. I think you should block him, speak to women’s aid to get advice and support.

I know you feel you love him but you are probably trauma bonded. This is a very intense and difficult thing to cope with unsupported. So, you need help from people who understand trauma bonding and emotional abuse. This is why I recommend women’s aid.

You shouldn’t wait for him to start divorce proceedings. What you need to do now is protect your children and yourself. See a solicitor to find out what you’d be entitled to in terms of martial assets, financial maintenance for you and your children, etc.

If you have joint finances, get a record of the amount from the bank. A printed statement from online banking will do. Then take half of the amount before he can potentially clean it out. Don’t take more than half. Then get a new statement with the new amount.

If you don’t have a separate bank account set one up. This is where your money will go, your wages if you work or your benefits if you don’t work and have to claim them. Check the turn to us calculator to see what you’d be entitled to claim. I assume you are the main carer for your disabled children. Are you receiving disability benefits for them? If not, you should apply right away. Also apply for carers allowance.

I know you’re hurting but this is a blessing in disguise. This marriage is toxic and in the long run it will be better for you and the children to live in a peaceful home as opposed to this abusive one.

Women's aid all the way. Have a read of this book too

https://www.docdroid.net/2fZmz40/why-does-he-do-that-pdf

And when you’re ready, do the freedom programme.

https://www.freedomprogramme.co.uk/

You can do this. And you’ll be glad you did.

why-does-he-do-that.pdf

“This fascinating investigation into what makes abusive men tick is alarming, but its candid handling of a difficult subject makes it a valuable resource for professionals and victims alike…. Jargon-free analysis is frequently broken up by interesting...

https://www.docdroid.net/2fZmz40/why-does-he-do-that-pdf

category12 · 11/02/2025 15:38

Seems like he's chosen the other woman.

I would work on sorting out a divorce.

Eightdayz · 11/02/2025 15:51

A deepseek summary. For those (like me) who struggled to understand it!

Certainly. Here's a summary:

The user has been with their husband for 15 years and they have children together. They agreed to open their marriage, but the user soon realized it wasn't for them. Despite expressing their discomfort, the husband continued the relationship with the other person, which led to a split. The situation has deeply affected the user, especially since their husband shows little concern for their feelings and responsibilities. The user is left caring for their children, some with special needs, while the husband is away. He is still in contact with the other person and seems indifferent to the user’s struggles. The user is unsure whether to try to fix the marriage or move on, feeling undervalued and betrayed. They're seeking advice on how to proceed.

Bumblebeestiltskin · 11/02/2025 15:54

Muggins92 · 11/02/2025 15:01

I do love him and I do it's his actions that I don't love and what he's done to me and how he sent me a WhatsApp saying it's over and capital letters and saying he doesn't want me then goes running to his 6 weeks after and then he said he's not willing to discuss anything else with me does he want me to sit here and total my thumbs but soon as I mention anything or a friend helping me a male friend I quote he then goes horrible and cold towards me he's too no responsibility in any of this he wanted her to be in our marriage I didn't I saw her is just a friend I stopped everything with her because I was not attracted to her and then it affected me not just mentally but everything else as well that I am dealing with

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