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DH and his job - venting about a row

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SummerFeverVenice · 09/02/2025 11:21

This is a pattern that is really getting on my tits and happened again this morning. I am sick of it so reaching out for advice on how to break the cycle:

My DH has a job and he frequently wants to talk to me about said job. Presumably so I can be supportive and say supportive things. Perhaps give advice as I have done his job before as well as much higher level jobs in the field.

The problem is that he will describe a situation that is bothering him, say what he has tried and his worries and say he doesn’t know what to do.

Cue me sympathising with his predicament, agreeing on the difficulties of the job, and asking questions. Have you tried this or that? What does your boss say/think? What about this or that? He answers the questions.

I then suggest x, y, z based on the above information he has given me.

Then he rubbishes everything I suggest saying I have no idea about it because…and then he directly contradicts key parts of the information and answers he has just told me about the situation!!

He then says it’s not my business, he doesn’t want my advice because it’s all rubbish anyway and gets angry with me.

I have recently been getting angry back and say well how am I supposed to support you if you’re not telling me the truth? And he says he is telling me the truth but doesn’t tell me “verbatim” what has happened or been said because it would take an age. I say, I asked specific questions, you gave me answers and then you contradict the answer you just gave me. How hard is it to give accurate summaries/answers and then not contradict them? How can I give any good support or advice if I’m being fed bad information and falsehoods?

He insists he isn’t lying, that it’s all true. He then says it’s none of my business to know. To which I said then why even talk to me about your job? What’s the point if he is going to feed me a half fictional story that isn’t even true and complete? He then went on about how I’m saying he’s “not allowed” talk to me about his work and why does he even bother coming home. And it’s like “talking to a rock”

By this time, I’ve become really angry and left the room as I can’t stand him. I shouted back down the stairs that it’s the lying that is bothering me and there is no point talking to me about his work if he’s just going to spin a half fictional story and then expect my responses to be based on what he isn’t telling me.

Do I now refuse to let him talk to me about his work? I am sorely tempted that everytime he raises work or job that I just say: “I don’t know sweetie, as you said it’s none of my business” and leave the room. I just know he will then act the victim and claim I’m doing the silent treatment and abusing him and if I stay firm he will also accuse me of being an uncaring, unsupportive, cold hearted bitch.

Or do I keep doing what’s been going on? New day, fresh start he wants to talk about work, I listen and say what I think based on the information he gives me. He rubbishes it by introducing key information he didn’t tell me or that completely contradicts what he had just told me and…what? Instead of getting frustrated do I just shrug and say “I’m sure you know best” and leave the room?

It feels like he is doing it on purpose…setting this up to make me feel stupid. Or maybe I am still angry and being a bit spiteful.

On a side note, I am in the middle of breast cancer treatment and just been diagnosed with osteoporosis a full 20yrs too early so it’s not like my life is going particularly swimmingly of late.

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TacticalEvasion · 09/02/2025 11:50

Is he actually asking for you to suggest solutions, or is he just wanting a supportive ear whilst he vents? Just stick to ‘oh that’s frustrating/awful/a pain’ type answers rather than trying to offer advice that he doesn’t seem to want.

Wishing you well for your treatment Flowers

SummerFeverVenice · 09/02/2025 11:56

I do the sympathetic ear and say all that oh that sucks, I can see why you’re frustrated and yes this or that can be really tough…etc.

But then he says I don’t know what to do or what can I do or how do I…
which to me always sounds like asking for a suggestion from me?

I suppose I could treat these as rhetorical questions and just not say anything.

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NeverDropYourMooncup · 09/02/2025 12:03

If you can be arsed, how about 'What do you think will work?' and if he then says he doesn't know, 'I'm sure you'll make the right decision' with a 'You know the full situation better than anybody else'.

Cheesandcrackers · 09/02/2025 12:04

Been there. It's awful. Eventually you realise that you have a colleague rather than a partner. There is a saying which goes something like "If you met a difficult person during your working day then you met a difficult person. If you meet difficult people all day long than you are the difficult person". As you ve found out they'll manipulate this dysfunctional universe they ve created to suit themselves regardless of what you say or do to help. I have no solution to this unfortunately as this problem is in your DH's head.

category12 · 09/02/2025 12:06

Is he a pain in the arse generally?

Gettingbysomehow · 09/02/2025 12:12

I have a friend who does this. She doesn't want any input from me I realised. She just wants a one way vent non stop regardless of what is going on in my own life. I got sick of it after 4 years and said I'm not listening to this litany of misery anymore because its making me miserable. I haven't seen her since.
I'd just say to your H I can't listen to this right now, you don't want my advice and I have enough to worry about right now with my cancer treatment. Best of luck with that by the way.

LurkyMcLurkinson · 09/02/2025 12:24

It sounds like he’s using you as someone he can take his frustration out on. You need a handful of stock phrases to roll out and repeat. Oh that sounds tough. That’s a tricky one. I’m sure you’ll figure out a solution. Let’s hope it all works out. He’ll soon realise you won’t be allowing him to use you that way and he’s lost valuable guidance.

Cheesandcrackers · 09/02/2025 12:36

I hate to bring in the N word so early in a thread but you may find he is a Covert Narcissist... People like this are a black hole which you will NEVER fill. And I'll give short odds that he will spin your cancer so he is the victim. I hope you stay strong for this as you can only depend on you.

kitchenhelprequired · 09/02/2025 12:37

You could ask directly if he's asking for solutions/problem solving or just someone to vent to. Having feelings validated for some people is enough (apparently). It doesn't come naturally to anyone who is a problem solver by nature to just say yes, absolutely agree that's shit and not want to offer up a solution but for some people having someone else say yes, I completely agree with your POV is enough for them.

AutumnFroglets · 09/02/2025 12:46

Do I now refuse to let him talk to me about his work?
Yes.

The real question is whether he's similar in other areas of your relationship or just this part. As to why - you said it yourself, you used to be better/higher up than him. It's good old fashioned sexism or jealousy.

Schoolchoicesucks · 09/02/2025 12:52

I agree with stopping any suggestions and instead asking him what he thinks might work, or what he thinks might help him deal with whatever the situation is better.

Either he isn't an arsehole and wants to vent, work through his thought process with you and is becoming frustrated when you try to 'solve' things for him. Or he is an arsehole and wants to trauma dump on you and indirectly blame you for all that is wrong in his life.

Sparkletastic · 09/02/2025 12:52

If you can be arsed (and that's a big if) adopt a coaching approach with him.

Theunamedcat · 09/02/2025 12:58

Just don't offer suggestions even if he asks for them if he gets arsey tell him he doesn't like it when you give suggestions and he doesn't like it when you do so you have no idea what he wants other than a fight and your not going to give him that

You literally have more than enough on your plate he doesn't need to add to it

FictionalCharacter · 09/02/2025 13:04

So he asks for help in an indirect way, gives false information about the situation he wants help with, then rubbishes every suggestion he's given? No wonder he's having problems at work, he sounds like a nightmare colleague and employee.

Unfortunately he sounds like a nightmare husband as well. And if he really would call you an unsupportive cold hearted bitch if you declined to go along with this, at a time when he should be supporting you, he's a truly nasty man. It's really sad to see that you are wondering if you're being spiteful..

His behaviour is turning you off him, understandably. He thinks he's right and you're wrong. The only thing you can do is stop listening to him, and try to ignore his playing the victim.

Has he got worse since you've been ill? Some men can't bear their partner getting attention, even when that "attention" is treatment for cancer. It isn't uncommon for men to start behaving selfishly when their wives get cancer.

rivalsbinge · 09/02/2025 13:21

What do you do for work now OP? I read the bit about you having done his job plus higher jobs in the field.

So if he actually trying to flex and belittle your advice even though he knows you're capable of doing his role?

Sounds like a very odd power play to me and I'd be feeling pretty fed up with this pattern of being spoken too like I don't know shit.

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