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Looking for advice re marriage in trouble

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belovedandpureones · 07/02/2025 17:34

Looking for honest advice - I have been married almost 30 years and my marriage has largely been unhappy from the start. My husband was very highly strung at the beginning of our marriage and showed me who he was from the start really. I believe this is because I had no familial support and had been in a similar relationship before and had confided in him about this. Regular and explosive arguments lead to me being traumatised and he threatened me so many times, standing over me intimidating me, punching walls and doors, etc. If he perceived he was losing in an argument, he would threaten self harm and suicide. Or, he would flounce out. If this did not work, he would threaten to give up his job so that we would lose our house, etc. No physical abuse to date.

Over the years, my husband has been lovely at times and very generous, but, when I think about it, he has never had my back and I would not say we are a partnership. He is very arrogant and has to be in control. We have a grown child together and he has always undermined me in front of her. I have had episodes of mental health (depression and anxiety) and he has been supportive whilst I am ill. The last time I was ill, I was prescribed antidepressants and he said I ‘changed’ on them. Probably because I was more assertive and outspoken.

About 10 years ago, my husband discovered I was attracted to someone else. This was via my search history on social media. Nothing has ever happened and I would never cheat. However, since then, he has changed but, to be honest, our marriage was in trouble prior to this due to the aforementioned issues. Our sex life is no more and I do not think of him in that way anymore, due to his abuse and arrogance.

I have been lonely in my marriage for around 8 years and cannot take anymore. I am unhappy, even though we are comfortable and have a lovely home. My husband has put our (limited) savings in a bank account in ifs name only and I have to ask if I need money for anything. We hardly ever talk and I am full of resentment.

I brought up separation to my husband and he flounced out of the house as he is incapable of having an adult conversation. He also threatened to ‘destroy’ me if I told anybody he was abusive to me (logged with the police). I asked him if he thought us both being unhappy was ok and he said he thought we would just go back to normal at some point.

I have been receiving input from a domestic violence organisation in anticipation of leaving. I told my husband I want to separate in May,once our daughter graduates uni. I am struggling as I know I have made mistakes and am wondering if my husband could change with the correct help. I am seeing this largely from a materialistic point of view as we have a lovely home and will have to sell it if we separate. I am also in my 50s, so late in life to begin again.

Advice needed please

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StopStartStop · 07/02/2025 21:43

Heck. I don't know what to advise but I send you good wishes, strength, things like that. Late 50s is a perfect time to start again, time to be you at last.

Put any change that the husband might manage right out of your mind. He's had long enough. He's abusive.

You've spoken to a dv organisation - have you seen a solicitor yet? If not, do that before the dh takes advantage of you.

Can you gather evidence of his financial situation? You didn't mention work, are you working?

As for a lovely home, you'll be surprised how lovely a very small place of your own can be, if you have peace of mind.

Good luck. I'm sure lots of people will be able to advise.

belovedandpureones · 08/02/2025 20:06

Hi, thank you so much for your reply. Yes, I work full time and we earn roughly the same amount (another thing that seems to offend him!). I am awaiting input from DV outreach worker re financial advice.

I know what you are saying is right about the value of peace of mind over material things. Just did not think I would be going through this is my 50s

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trailblazer42 · 08/02/2025 20:58

I can relate to a lot of what you’ve said…I had the savings being transferred out, and childish behaviour if we disagree/he was annoyed (stonewalling in my case).

I left in October into an Airbnb with no real plan. But I moved into a rented house in December. I was a bit of a snob about it to start with to be honest…completely mourned the loss of my four bed house with the lovely decor and hot tub. But I absolutely love my new little house now…it’s a two up two down Victorian terrace with awful parking and backs onto a train line and is next to gates so also a lot of beeping!

But I’ve made it so cosy and everything in it is mine and my choice. And I’m not unhappy every day. I spent 9mths sleeping on the lounge floor so fell out of love with my house. Now a have a new double bed with my bedding and I starfish every night.

It felt like a massive step down to be in a house ‘worse’ than the one we bought when I was 18. But it was the best decision I ever made.

belovedandpureones · 01/08/2025 17:55

Sounds bliss @trailblazer42
i am still miserable, still in my unhappy, loveless marriage
still too scared to leave after my husband told me he would destroy me when I tried to discuss separation
still humiliated and largely ignored daily
still labelled ‘dramatic’ by our daughter although I tell her how much it hurts me. She has been coached by my husband to disrespect me from a young age
I have no family support as I was the scapegoat in my birth family and I went NC with my mum in march for the final time. She is happy when I am mistreated and denied knowing what my husband is like, even though she is fully aware and has seen me distressed many times
My Dad is alive but not supportive, even though I am supportive to him and visit twice weekly. he is short tempered with me. My family of origin, including my siblings. know my husband is emotionally abusive but have never showed me any support
I absolutely hate my husband at this point but just can’t leave. I told him when we met about the pain I had been though with my parents and my ex partner, who was also abusive, and he broke my trust and used my vulnerabilities against me by abusing me himself.
I love my home and am scared to take my husband to court for half the finances, house etc
i tried to discuss as none of us are happy but he blew up. He cannot have an adult conversation. I feel I have made things worse as he knows I want to leave and is secretive, particularly with money. In addition to what I am dealing with, I am terrified my husband is going to turn things around on me and leave me destitute.
I cannot go on like this

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AttilaTheMeerkat · 01/08/2025 18:11

beloved

He can't destroy you but uses that threat against you because it works. And it has because you are still there. He is also unlikely to kill himself; again the threat of suicide is often employed by abusers to keep the chosen target i.e. you in this case in line. And even if he did you are not responsible.

We learn about relationships first and foremost from our parents; look at what yours taught you. Your current H sounds similar to your own father.

What obstacles are preventing you from leaving your abuser?. What scares you about court?. I could give you some possible answers; fear of him, fear of the unknown, money worries, your now adult child. Your H is not the boss of you though he has acted like such and has managed to ground you down over the decades. Your lack of support from your parents and siblings has also taken its toll.

Even now you have a choice re this man. Do not waste any more precious years now on him than you already have now because he will never be reasonable nor amicable.

Your house is not your lovely home but is instead akin to a warzone. It is not your fault nor your DDs that he decided many years ago to embark on his own private based war against you. Are you still in contact with domestic violence organisations?. Have you spoken with Womens Aid and sought legal advice from a Solicitor?. You're right; you indeed cannot go on like this and nor can your DD and she has likely seen and heard far more than either of you care to realise. Divorce is not failure here.

Lushvegetation · 01/08/2025 18:36

Get the fuck out of there. That is all I have to say.

belovedandpureones · 01/08/2025 18:56

AttilaTheMeerkat · 01/08/2025 18:11

beloved

He can't destroy you but uses that threat against you because it works. And it has because you are still there. He is also unlikely to kill himself; again the threat of suicide is often employed by abusers to keep the chosen target i.e. you in this case in line. And even if he did you are not responsible.

We learn about relationships first and foremost from our parents; look at what yours taught you. Your current H sounds similar to your own father.

What obstacles are preventing you from leaving your abuser?. What scares you about court?. I could give you some possible answers; fear of him, fear of the unknown, money worries, your now adult child. Your H is not the boss of you though he has acted like such and has managed to ground you down over the decades. Your lack of support from your parents and siblings has also taken its toll.

Even now you have a choice re this man. Do not waste any more precious years now on him than you already have now because he will never be reasonable nor amicable.

Your house is not your lovely home but is instead akin to a warzone. It is not your fault nor your DDs that he decided many years ago to embark on his own private based war against you. Are you still in contact with domestic violence organisations?. Have you spoken with Womens Aid and sought legal advice from a Solicitor?. You're right; you indeed cannot go on like this and nor can your DD and she has likely seen and heard far more than either of you care to realise. Divorce is not failure here.

Thanks Attila

He has not threatened suicide since we were much younger, when he used to use it regularly as a form of emotional control. He threatened to destroy me in October 2024 and this is logged with the police.

I understand the link now between my upbringing and that setting the tone for abusive relationships since. I have nowhere to go and cannot afford to rent privately as we have a fairly large mortgage. I feel trapped for sure

i no longer have DV support. I got a new support worker and did not find her helpful. I understood that I would be supported whether I left or stayed, but I only had 2 meetings with her and she implied there was nothing more they could do to help me if I was not ready to leave.

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belovedandpureones · 01/08/2025 18:58

Lushvegetation · 01/08/2025 18:36

Get the fuck out of there. That is all I have to say.

I agree but not that easy when I have no familial support and a large portion of my income goes on mortgage and bills where I live

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AttilaTheMeerkat · 01/08/2025 19:01

Would you be willing and able to contact Womens Aid?. They could be of great service to you.

I hope you can find it within you to make the break both for you and your daughter.

belovedandpureones · 01/08/2025 19:54

AttilaTheMeerkat · 01/08/2025 19:01

Would you be willing and able to contact Womens Aid?. They could be of great service to you.

I hope you can find it within you to make the break both for you and your daughter.

I could try. Just feeling very beaten down today and trapped. My daughter loves her Dad and is sometimes horrible to me, even though I am and always have been the abused one. The more I try to assert myself the worse the silent treatment and stand offishness becomes. If I become irritated due to all the stress, my daughter calls me a drama queen and is quite cruel, even though she is a lovely, sensitive girl. I have asked her not to do it and she apologises but willl then do it again. I feel like life has been very unfair to me

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AttilaTheMeerkat · 01/08/2025 20:10

I am certain your daughter loves you as well but in staying with her abusive father to date you have shown her this treatment of you is acceptable to you on some level.

She’s likely abusive towards you also because she does not want to become her dad’s target too. She could well become the abused or an abuser in her own adult relationships. She has been emotionally harmed by your relationship with her dad’s target.

Yes life has been unfair to you but the future is not yet written and you can live a life free from being abused. It’ s not going to be easier for you to remain with your abuser.

belovedandpureones · 01/08/2025 21:37

AttilaTheMeerkat · 01/08/2025 20:10

I am certain your daughter loves you as well but in staying with her abusive father to date you have shown her this treatment of you is acceptable to you on some level.

She’s likely abusive towards you also because she does not want to become her dad’s target too. She could well become the abused or an abuser in her own adult relationships. She has been emotionally harmed by your relationship with her dad’s target.

Yes life has been unfair to you but the future is not yet written and you can live a life free from being abused. It’ s not going to be easier for you to remain with your abuser.

Possibly, although he treats her like.a princess and is the perfect father. Never once treated her like he has treated me throughout our almost 28 years together. I feel a fool and literally hate him for whar he has done to me, especially when he was fully aware of my traumatic past. All he saw was someone to abuse himself

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